The Drilling Platform was not a production platform.
It was a Semi Submersible mobile drilling unit( 'Deep Water Horizon') owned by a company called 'Transocean' that was drilling an oilwell.
The fact remains that the Blowout Preventer did not work.
The investigation will find out why it failed in due course, meanwhile the damage to the environment is ongoing.
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Oil discharge in the Gulf of Mexico.
Sexpert
Sounds like a typical case of doing the minimum required to comply with regs, rather than implementing best practice - no doubt there will be no blame or punishment attached to individuals, just a big fine for companies involved.
The immediate issue at hand has to be containing/mitigating the spill, but I fear a huge environmental catastrophe - as I understand it, it's still spewing out 50,000 barrels a day and will take 45 -90 days before an expedition to cap it can be mounted
The immediate issue at hand has to be containing/mitigating the spill, but I fear a huge environmental catastrophe - as I understand it, it's still spewing out 50,000 barrels a day and will take 45 -90 days before an expedition to cap it can be mounted
Not up enough on the subject to know how true the original post is, but sounds logical. The point about the minimum to comply with the regs is interesting, but this itself is complex and there is also the people aspect leading to the "chain of errors" that we hear of so often in these cases.
Plim :sad:
Plim :sad:
Sex God
Quote by Rob_hood
The Drilling Platform was not a production platform.
It was a Semi Submersible mobile drilling unit( 'Deep Water Horizon') owned by a company called 'Transocean' that was drilling an oilwell.
The fact remains that the Blowout Preventer did not work.
The investigation will find out why it failed in due course, meanwhile the damage to the environment is ongoing.
What are you wanting to discuss? Excuse me if I'm being a tad dense... Quote by noladreams
The Drilling Platform was not a production platform.
It was a Semi Submersible mobile drilling unit( 'Deep Water Horizon') owned by a company called 'Transocean' that was drilling an oilwell.
The fact remains that the Blowout Preventer did not work.
The investigation will find out why it failed in due course, meanwhile the damage to the environment is ongoing.
What are you wanting to discuss? Excuse me if I'm being a tad dense...My post was meant to attract replys on a current affairs topic.
I have just heard the BP spokesman on BBC News say "although BP is the operating company, the responsibility for the Rig and it's equipment lies with the Drilling conractor, 'Transocean', whose rig it mans and operates".
He was correct in all he said except for one omission.
Every Phase (including regular and periodic inspection, pressure testing and function testing of the Blowout Preventer) of drilling operations are carried out by the drilling contractor to the operating company's specification and under the operators supervision.
The responsibility lies with the Operating OIL company which in this case is BP.
I am dissapointed but not surprised that BP is trying to shift the blame.
Sex God
Ah okay. I wasn't meaning to be rude, just wasn't sure where you wanted the thread to go.
I'm gutted. South Louisiana is an area close to my heart and I have been tracking the spill since it happened. It is such a shame that it looks likely to devastate an area of natural importance and an area which has suffered such a lot with Katrina and Rita before that.
I'm gutted. South Louisiana is an area close to my heart and I have been tracking the spill since it happened. It is such a shame that it looks likely to devastate an area of natural importance and an area which has suffered such a lot with Katrina and Rita before that.
Quote by noladreams
Ah okay. I wasn't meaning to be rude, just wasn't sure where you wanted the thread to go.
I'm gutted. South Louisiana is an area close to my heart and I have been tracking the spill since it happened. It is such a shame that it looks likely to devastate an area of natural importance and an area which has suffered such a lot with Katrina and Rita before that.
I agree. The people in those affected areas have suffered plenty already and now this!
My thoughts and sympathy goes out for the 11 missing,presumed dead, members of the Rig crew and their families and loved ones not forgetting the people who were injured and are now in hospital in a bad way. I hope they make their recovery's soon.
Insurance will pick-up most of the cost.
No doubt some of the cost will come from the £14 billion (before tax) annual profit.
However....it is not illegal for companies to make profit...and the BP annual turnover is about £253 billion.....since the company is "owned" by its investors its profit provides dividends to those investors. Most of who are pensions companies (etc).
You seem to be attributing blame with no evidence of same.
The rig was not owned by BP, and was operating on their behalf on contract.
No doubt some of the cost will come from the £14 billion (before tax) annual profit.
However....it is not illegal for companies to make profit...and the BP annual turnover is about £253 billion.....since the company is "owned" by its investors its profit provides dividends to those investors. Most of who are pensions companies (etc).
You seem to be attributing blame with no evidence of same.
The rig was not owned by BP, and was operating on their behalf on contract.
Quote by JTS
The rig was not owned by BP, and was operating on their behalf on contract.
There is an Operating Oil 'Company Man' on every drilling installation in the world at all times an every Phase (including regular and periodic inspection, pressure testing and function testing of the Blowout Preventer) of drilling operations are carried out by the drilling contractor to the operating company's specification and under the operators supervision.
The 'Buck' stops at BP's door.
The trouble is...what the fuck do we all want?
BP as far as I know were trying a new technique in deep sea drilling, it went wrong.
I am sure the environmental disaster will be felt for years to come, but were BP negligent? That I do not know but we all need the oil and sometimes when new things are tried it can go wrong. Yes it did on a huge scale but we as humans need and rely on oil, and it has to be drilled somehow.
I will wait and see exactly what the outcome will be when the inquiry starts, as it surely will.
The main problems I can see is that because this is a new measure of getting the oil up from miles down, as it has gone so wrong they have no real means of capping it.
But saying that in some African and South American countries, the oil companys have been hugely negligent, as far as the local environment goes, and the people who still have to live near smelly oil filled sludges seeping into the ground and the local water.
Oil companies do have a lot to answer for in many respects, but as this is Americas biggest oil disaster someone will have to pay, but my fear is that money alone will not put right all the wrongs, and the people in that area will suffer long term effects of this.
Two sides to this.
BP as far as I know were trying a new technique in deep sea drilling, it went wrong.
I am sure the environmental disaster will be felt for years to come, but were BP negligent? That I do not know but we all need the oil and sometimes when new things are tried it can go wrong. Yes it did on a huge scale but we as humans need and rely on oil, and it has to be drilled somehow.
I will wait and see exactly what the outcome will be when the inquiry starts, as it surely will.
The main problems I can see is that because this is a new measure of getting the oil up from miles down, as it has gone so wrong they have no real means of capping it.
But saying that in some African and South American countries, the oil companys have been hugely negligent, as far as the local environment goes, and the people who still have to live near smelly oil filled sludges seeping into the ground and the local water.
Oil companies do have a lot to answer for in many respects, but as this is Americas biggest oil disaster someone will have to pay, but my fear is that money alone will not put right all the wrongs, and the people in that area will suffer long term effects of this.
Two sides to this.
Oil residue in seafloor sediments that comes from natural petroleum seeps off Santa Barbara, Calif., is equivalent to between 8 to 80 Exxon Valdez oil spills, according to a new study by researchers at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) and the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB).
There is effectively an oil spill every day at Coal Oil Point (COP), the natural seeps off Santa Barbara where 20 to 25 tons of oil have leaked from the seafloor each day for the last several hundred thousand years.(8000 US gallons)
Today, especially on a warm summer day, a person driving through Santa Paula will smell petroleum fumes and notice thick, black crude oil running down the side of the road ... exactly what the Chumash smelled centuries ago. All over California, from Humboldt to Kern to San Diego Counties, place-names such as Oil Creek, Petrolia, Oildale, Brea, and Coal Oil Point testify to the widespread occurrence of petroleum seepages.
Absolutely no reason exists to assume that any part of the Federal Government has engineering expertise comparable to the petroleum industry that can be applied to this or any future energy-related crisis. Certainly, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, and Energy Secretary Steven Chu have no more experience in these matters than does the President.
Salazar’s empty threat to “push BP out of the way” has no basis as a realistic option and best illustrates the floundering of the Obama Administration. Indeed, from “day one,” the expertise of the entire U.S. and British drilling and production industry should have been mobilized to combat this spill, with a single experienced engineering manager in charge. It still is not too late to start doing it right.
You'll pardon me if I smell not petroleum but political expediency ?
"yeah...ok on the oil leak guys....now how can we spin this so we get to take bp over...gotta be good for the mids coming along"
"Yo Prez baby...way to go man..."
