Star loses the debate again,
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Quote by HnS
Star loses the debate again,
quelle surprise
:lol2:
:lol2:
Sex God
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Warming the Bed
Hi folks .
Im fat but can still easily fit in an airline seat with no trouble so why should i pay more as the airline have already put their profit margin on the price of my ticket.
If i was so fat i needed two seats then they would have their profit margin x2
Im fat but can still easily fit in an airline seat with no trouble so why should i pay more as the airline have already put their profit margin on the price of my ticket.
If i was so fat i needed two seats then they would have their profit margin x2
Quote by Deezere85
Hi folks .
Im fat but can still easily fit in an airline seat with no trouble so why should i pay more as the airline have already put their profit margin on the price of my ticket.
If i was so fat i needed two seats then they would have their profit margin x2
I do not mean to be rude in anyway, but when you say fat, what does that mean exactly?
People's interpretation of that word varies enormously. Obesity is a huge problem ( pardon the pun ) for airlines as they charge an excess for baggage that goes over a persons allowance by a couple of kilos, so if a 24 stone man boarded a plane, that is a bit more than a couple of kilos over the average mans body weight, and yet would pay the same price for his ticket as me.
You say fit into an airline seat with no trouble, but that then surely means you are not fat. Those seats are pretty small at the best of times and to be fat I would have said that part of your body would have infringed on the seat either side of you, and so that passenger. If you do not do that in any way, then I would not have you down as fat.
Quote by GnV
Star. Just think of it like your charitable contributions to the RSPCA.
You're making charitable contributions to fat people who can ill-afford the excess charges....
Go on. You know you want to really.
What are you babbling about now GnV? If that were a serious question I would answer it, but as you're being silly for silly sakes I shall pass on this occasion.
Quote by starlightcouple
Star. Just think of it like your charitable contributions to the RSPCA.
You're making charitable contributions to fat people who can ill-afford the excess charges....
Go on. You know you want to really.
What are you babbling about now GnV? If that were a serious question I would answer it, but as you're being silly for silly sakes I shall pass on this occasion.
It was a statement, not a question
You can tell the difference surely.
Quote by GnV
Star. Just think of it like your charitable contributions to the RSPCA.
You're making charitable contributions to fat people who can ill-afford the excess charges....
Go on. You know you want to really.
What are you babbling about now GnV? If that were a serious question I would answer it, but as you're being silly for silly sakes I shall pass on this occasion.
It was a statement, not a question
You can tell the difference surely.
In what? :lol2:
Quote by GnV
Don't waste your breath Max. He's already made his mind up
Thanks for speaking on my behalf GnV. Do you sit by your computer day in and day out, waiting to post a comment about me in some fashion? You need to get out a bit more into that French sunshine, hiding behind shut curtains is not good for you.
I shall go and see now if I can answer Max's question all by my little selfy.:giggle:
Quote by starlightcouple
Well you saw it here first.
Quote by Max777
Air Samoa is a small airline that flies small aircraft. All passengers have to be weighed as a matter of course. It would be logistically impossible to apply this scenario to large aircraft.
Hello Max I have arrived to answer the question put to me, without any interference from my stalker.
Yes I was aware that Samoa Air is a small airline but is it possible that bigger airlines could start to adopt the same practices?
I cannot see how it would be logistically impossible to charge passengers by their weight, in fact I think it would be very simple.
On the booking form it would clearly give a passenger category's into what weight they fall into. Is a grown man between 9 stone and 15 stone, that would be a normal weight and no excess charges would apply, if they answered that they were in the 16 stones to 22 stone bracket it would then carry a surcharge. At the end of the booking form like with most forms, sign it if you believe the information you have given is correct. If at the airport that guy was said he was 11 stone actually weighed 19 stone and had signed his declaration on his booking form, then an excess weight charge would be applied before he could fly, in the same way we accept excess baggage charges but at the start people were up in arms about it.
With the cost of fuel for Joe public forever going through the roof, and people on the street having to make decisions like eating or getting to work, aviation fuel is astronomical in it's cost and I cannot see why airlines would not use a person's weight to determine the price of their ticket. The more weight an airline carries, the more fuel it uses.
Only time will tell Max if indeed a much larger airline brings this into play.
Quote by starlightcouple
Hi folks .
Im fat but can still easily fit in an airline seat with no trouble so why should i pay more as the airline have already put their profit margin on the price of my ticket.
If i was so fat i needed two seats then they would have their profit margin x2
I do not mean to be rude in anyway, but when you say fat, what does that mean exactly?
People's interpretation of that word varies enormously. Obesity is a huge problem ( pardon the pun ) for airlines as they charge an excess for baggage that goes over a persons allowance by a couple of kilos, so if a 24 stone man boarded a plane, that is a bit more than a couple of kilos over the average mans body weight, and yet would pay the same price for his ticket as me.
You say fit into an airline seat with no trouble, but that then surely means you are not fat. Those seats are pretty small at the best of times and to be fat I would have said that part of your body would have infringed on the seat either side of you, and so that passenger. If you do not do that in any way, then I would not have you down as fat.
I easily fit into a airline seat with space to spare either side of me on my seat but i am classed as fat, bordering on obese according to the charts at the doctors surgery !
Quote by starlightcouple
Well you saw it here first.
Quote by Max777
Air Samoa is a small airline that flies small aircraft. All passengers have to be weighed as a matter of course. It would be logistically impossible to apply this scenario to large aircraft.
Hello Max I have arrived to answer the question put to me, without any interference from my stalker.
Yes I was aware that Samoa Air is a small airline but is it possible that bigger airlines could start to adopt the same practices?
I cannot see how it would be logistically impossible to charge passengers by their weight, in fact I think it would be very simple.
On the booking form it would clearly give a passenger category's into what weight they fall into. Is a grown man between 9 stone and 15 stone, that would be a normal weight and no excess charges would apply, if they answered that they were in the 16 stones to 22 stone bracket it would then carry a surcharge. At the end of the booking form like with most forms, sign it if you believe the information you have given is correct. If at the airport that guy was said he was 11 stone actually weighed 19 stone and had signed his declaration on his booking form, then an excess weight charge would be applied before he could fly, in the same way we accept excess baggage charges but at the start people were up in arms about it.
With the cost of fuel for Joe public forever going through the roof, and people on the street having to make decisions like eating or getting to work, aviation fuel is astronomical in it's cost and I cannot see why airlines would not use a person's weight to determine the price of their ticket. The more weight an airline carries, the more fuel it uses.
Only time will tell Max if indeed a much larger airline brings this into play.
Are you suggesting that every passenger would be weighed at the airport? Given that more and more airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs, this would seem very unlikely .
Quote by Max777
Are you suggesting that every passenger would be weighed at the airport? Given that more and more airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs, this would seem very unlikely .
Why not Max? It would be as easy as eating a bag of chips. When getting your baggage checked each passenger would have to stand on scales whilst getting their boarding passes. Only the Airline employer would be able to see the passengers weight, and whether or not it fell into the category that passenger put down on their booking form.
It would be so easy to do and relatively cheap to put into place as well. Making a passenger aware that they have to pay an excess would need to be done in a private manner, and how that would be done I am not sure. You could hardly put a passenger in an embarrassing situation there and then.
It could be very easy to do Max.
Quote by starlightcouple
Are you suggesting that every passenger would be weighed at the airport? Given that more and more airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs, this would seem very unlikely .
Why not Max? It would be as easy as eating a bag of chips. When getting your baggage checked each passenger would have to stand on scales whilst getting their boarding passes. Only the Airline employer would be able to see the passengers weight, and whether or not it fell into the category that passenger put down on their booking form.
It would be so easy to do and relatively cheap to put into place as well. Making a passenger aware that they have to pay an excess would need to be done in a private manner, and how that would be done I am not sure. You could hardly put a passenger in an embarrassing situation there and then.
It could be very easy to do Max.
I doubt it would be as easy as you think. As I stated in my previous post, airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs and weighing every passenger would require more staff and lengthen check in times . More staff = more costs which would negate the extra income raised from excess "baggage" charges.
Quote by Max777
I doubt it would be as easy as you think. As I stated in my previous post, airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs and weighing every passenger would require more staff and lengthen check in times . More staff = more costs which would negate the extra income raised from excess "baggage" charges.
People would still have to go through passport control Max, it could be done there. Whilst your baggage is being scanned through the x ray machine, you could be weighed within 5 seconds. If you have stated on your booking form that you fall into a certain weight category and have signed a declaration to support that, and at the airport passport control you are over that of which you signed for, then you could be charged accordingly.
I cannot understand why you think this would be so difficult to do. The cost of aviation fuel has gone through the roof, and I do not think it fair that I am 11 stone 12 and yet I would pay the same ticket price as someone who was double my weight. Is that fair Max?
Quote by starlightcouple
I doubt it would be as easy as you think. As I stated in my previous post, airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs and weighing every passenger would require more staff and lengthen check in times . More staff = more costs which would negate the extra income raised from excess "baggage" charges.
People would still have to go through passport control Max, it could be done there. Whilst your baggage is being scanned through the x ray machine, you could be weighed within 5 seconds. If you have stated on your booking form that you fall into a certain weight category and have signed a declaration to support that, and at the airport passport control you are over that of which you signed for, then you could be charged accordingly.
I cannot understand why you think this would be so difficult to do. The cost of aviation fuel has gone through the roof, and I do not think it fair that I am 11 stone 12 and yet I would pay the same ticket price as someone who was double my weight. Is that fair Max?
Sorry Star but its a non starter. There are no airline systems at passport control and can you imagine the delays that would ensue? The only reason airlines would go down this route would be to raise significant extra income but they wouldn't want to heavily invest in further systems and technology. It wouldn't be worth their whole.
As for your question is it fair. Taking into account the weight of a plane, it's cargo an a full load of passengers, a few overweight passengers will make a negligible difference.
Quote by Max777
Sorry Star but its a non starter. There are no airline systems at passport control and can you imagine the delays that would ensue? The only reason airlines would go down this route would be to raise significant extra income but they wouldn't want to heavily invest in further systems and technology. It wouldn't be worth their whole.
As for your question is it fair. Taking into account the weight of a plane, it's cargo an a full load of passengers, a few overweight passengers will make a negligible difference.
You may well be right Max but I am guessing that airlines will be looking to get back the increased cost of aviation fuel somehow. Time will tell no doubt but this is an ongoing debate amongst many where over weight passengers are concerned.
Warming the Bed
Quote by starlightcouple
Hi folks .
Im fat but can still easily fit in an airline seat with no trouble so why should i pay more as the airline have already put their profit margin on the price of my ticket.
If i was so fat i needed two seats then they would have their profit margin x2
I do not mean to be rude in anyway, but when you say fat, what does that mean exactly?
People's interpretation of that word varies enormously. Obesity is a huge problem ( pardon the pun ) for airlines as they charge an excess for baggage that goes over a persons allowance by a couple of kilos, so if a 24 stone man boarded a plane, that is a bit more than a couple of kilos over the average mans body weight, and yet would pay the same price for his ticket as me.
You say fit into an airline seat with no trouble, but that then surely means you are not fat. Those seats are pretty small at the best of times and to be fat I would have said that part of your body would have infringed on the seat either side of you, and so that passenger. If you do not do that in any way, then I would not have you down as fat.
Well like i said i call myself fat not clinically obese but fat not 24 stone though!
I understand your point of if a persons size infringes on the person next to them ,but like i said f someone requires two seats then yes they should pay for two.
However im yet to find a form of public transport where your in space and comfort whatever your size.
I once again elude to the point that the airline has already made profit from my ticket price and the whole charging on being over on luggage is
a : A little bit of extra money making
b : A way to regulate the procedure so people are unable to take the piss with their luggage
D you know how much fuel a plane burns while still sat on the tarmac waiting for permission to start taing to the runway? Way more than the weight of cruising with the added weight of a few Chunks"
Apologies for the late response
Sex God
Quote by Max777
Are you suggesting that every passenger would be weighed at the airport? Given that more and more airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs, this would seem very unlikely .
This is exactly what happens with the samoan airline. They physically weigh the passenger on the baggage weight machine at the check in. Last time I checked Hold luggage in they weighed each bag individually, so in effect there is only one more bag being weighed per passenger and therefore not beyond the realms of possibility or ability.
Quote by Trevaunance
Are you suggesting that every passenger would be weighed at the airport? Given that more and more airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs, this would seem very unlikely .
This is exactly what happens with the samoan airline. They physically weigh the passenger on the baggage weight machine at the check in. Last time I checked Hold luggage in they weighed each bag individually, so in effect there is only one more bag being weighed per passenger and therefore not beyond the realms of possibility or ability.
Yes but it's a very small airline, flying very small planes in which weight is a major factor and therefore everyone has to be weighed as a matter of course. They were doing this before they started charging by the kilo.
Sex God
Quote by Max777
Are you suggesting that every passenger would be weighed at the airport? Given that more and more airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs, this would seem very unlikely .
This is exactly what happens with the samoan airline. They physically weigh the passenger on the baggage weight machine at the check in. Last time I checked Hold luggage in they weighed each bag individually, so in effect there is only one more bag being weighed per passenger and therefore not beyond the realms of possibility or ability.
Yes but it's a very small airline, flying very small planes in which weight is a major factor and therefore everyone has to be weighed as a matter of course. They were doing this before they started charging by the kilo.
You asked Star if he was suggesting people should be weighed at the airport, and I have pointed out that this is a policy with one airline. The size of the airline doesn't really matter, it's a demonstration that the idea could work. There is a video of it .
Within the same article there are more indications of how the airlines are attempting to cut the costs of fuel:
'Air Canada estimates that for each kilogram it removes from one of its Boeing 763 aircraft, it will save 3,925 kilograms of fuel every year'.
'WestJet Airlines Ltd., for example, has gone to extraordinary measures to reduce weight, from shrinking the size of its in-flight magazine and printing it on lighter paper stock to using a lightweight paint on the aircraft. Simple things like switching to lighter service carts are saving roughly 1.8 million litres in fuel a year'.
I think that there is some scope for the idea, and if the airline can save more money by using weight based fares than it would need to spend to run the system then surely it's even more likely.
