Firstly if you "smash" the BNP someone else will be along to take their place immediately. We don't like them but hundreds of thousands of people do, martyr them in any way whatsoever and we will have to reap what we sow as what they are replaced with becomes bigger and worse (or in their eyes stronger and better). Remember the old saying, better the devil you know.
Secondly the host and co panelists had an opportunity to properly debate Griffin yesterday and totally outwit him, and they did outwit him to an extent . However the debate was a sham, questions were shouted and answers demanded, yet the man was never given the opportunity to finish answering without constantly being very loudly interrupted, indeed he was shouted down every time he opened his mouth. Apparently there was some BNP supporters in the audience, I noticed that on the few occasions where he was applauded other members of that audience were looking around to see who was doing it, so not surprisingly they kept stum for most of the time probably because of all the people waiting outside.
Griffin did appear inept, but I have seen him handle pressure by TV journalists and the like before, this of course was something completely different. Having to sneak in while over five hundred hostile demonstrators fought with the police to try and stop him only to be subjected to what could be described as a verbal public lynching must have been extremely nerve wracking.
I don't like Griffin and even if he ( as he says ) isn't a racist or Nazi, yeah I know lol but for arguments sake. He is still a smug self important twat. Unfortunately looking at the bigger picture I couldn't help but wish they could take some of the bottle he showed by sowing up there and getting through all that last night and give it to a few democratic politicians.
Jack Straw provided no surprises either, he is and always has been a worm, and was blatantly out of his comfort zone when the black fella from the audience and the Asian panelist literally had to bale him out when he was pressed on immigration.
Personally I wish I hadn't wasted my time watching it.
BNP is the political arm of what was the National Front. NF was a one issue organisation whose only policy was to rid Briton of all races other then white. To the racists this would solve all of Britons problems and there would be work, housing and opportunities for all who live here.
Hitler did the same, he spent a long time brain washing the Germans that it was the Jews who took all the wealth, housing and jobs away from them and over time people started believing him. While everyone was Jew bashing, Hitler was getting rid of all the gays, disabled, mentally ill and the old who were a burden on the society. He even had an issue with black haired Germans
The bible of the NF was Mein Kampf, hence they displayed the swatz sticker as their party symbol. Griffin Joined the National Front while a law student at Cambridge and became its national student organiser in 1978. To give a more appealing and voter friendly image, the BNP dropped those images and have spent the past few years’ brain washing everyone that they are a people party.
To say that people who vote for BNP are not racist is to say that Hitler did have a point regarding the Jews. People would have to have been living on the moon not to realise what the BNP stands for. It is a racist one issue party and it appeals to those who see the colour of a person’s skin. It will never appeal to people who just see people and not the colour.
BNP are Nazi’s and to be a leader of such an organisation you have to be the biggest Nazi within the party. Dick Griffin came across as a complete idiot because he can not hide his past. He showed everyone how stupid he was to think that people would overlook his racist views and give him a platform to preach his hatred. Get real Dick we live in a democracy which you and your party would abolish if you ever came into power.
interestingly after QT on another channel there was a prog called BNP WIVES if anyone could ever of been loopy enough to believe they aren't a bunch of ill educated 6 fingered knuckle dragging bigots then this prog would of opened their eyes well and truelly
don't think i have ever shouted at the telly so much
First of all can I say I neither agree or applaud Griffin or the BNP. Glad I got that out of the way!!
Now my main point.... This programme was a witchhunt!! When you consider the thought that everyone was talking about free speech and the BBC being unbiased then you should also consider that Dimbleby spent most of the programme baiting and berating Griffin and the BNP. This to me was neither right or whole programme was geared up and laid out to make Griffin look bad which I am sure he could do all by himself without the BBC's help!! I was annoyed and dismayed to see the treatment of the individual from both the audience and the presenter. Everyone else had an axe to grind but surely the presenter should remain impartial. You wouldnt see a boxing refereee stop one fighter from punching and then allowing the other one a free hit!!I think racism in this country has gone too far and discrimination has gone too far the other way!! It IS the whites who are treated as second class citizens without a doubt!! The examples are endless!!
what is the bnp?, who funds it? why does it appeal to a section of society and "IN WHO'S INTERESTS DOES IT SERVE ?"
please dont attempt to answer these questions kenty because you have'nt got a clue !
the bnp is a continuety of the national front and before them moseley's brown shirts.
its advetising this week at least, was funded by the corporate media and STATE owned television and at any of their meetings/marches in high imigrant area's (provocation) they are protected by the forces of the state.(police)
the bnp appeals to the ignorant and backward sections of society whom are easily misled by the constant barrage in the corporate media about ever increasing imigration, asylum seekers,islamaphobia,terrorism,security,9/11, 7/7,taliban,al quaeder, etc and who have no other avenue for their fears because, generally, no political party represents their interests. their interests being a job, a decent wage, a decent standard of living and percieved security. "NEW LABOUR" DESERTED THEM IN FAVOUR OF PRIVATISATION, DEREGULATION, EVER INCREASING INDEPTEDNESS, P.F.I, ILLEGAL UNJUSTIFIED WARS OF AGRESSION AND OCCUPATION AND THE SLAUGHTER OF PROBABLY MILLIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST, BANKING BAILOUTS WITH FUTURE TAXPAYERS REVENUE (to big to fail)creating more future systemic risk and aided the bnp with the cry of "british jobs for british workers". jack straw sat in a cabinet that presided over all public works being funded by the city private finance initiative (rip off)the privatisation of air traffick control and the refusal to support british industy (ie rover and countless others). as a "friend of israel, jack straw did'nt lift a finger when after 12 months of surrounded closed borders, israel phosphur bombed the gaza strip, and he sent ill equipted economic refugees off to a foreign land to steal other peoples natural resources based on a total pack of lies ! now is it any wonder that the disenfranchised (no longer represented) ripped off backward sections of society turn to a party that offers them solutions to their problems.
send all the foreigners back to where they came from because they are the cause of your problems ? the purpose of the bnp is to create DIVISION!
IN WHO'S INTEREST DOES IT SERVE ? the same interests that "NEW" labour, the conservatives and every other politician that gets past the post to get on the gravy train of the palace of westminster. A POWER HIGHER THAN PARLIAMENT and that aint no deity.
A YouGov Poll in today's Telegraph says 22% of the electorate would consider voting BNP and Peter Hain is not happy. A direct result of the free publicity meted out by the BBC this week he thinks. Well this maybe partly true, but when will the 'political class' realise a lot of this so called support for the BNP is an anti political establishment protest. People are heartily sick of promises made and not kept, spin, expense fiddling and US led foreign policy (and let's not even mention the EC). So a vote for the BNP is a tweak on the nose for the establishment.
So instead of moaning about the Beeb, Hain, Cameron and their ilk should go away and ponder why a disgusting array of racist bigots, looneytunes and Colonel Blimps should appeal to 22% of the electorate. I think it says more about the calibre of our politicians these days than than the appeal of an ex public schoolboy who never got over the shock effect that scrawling swastikas on the back of his exercise book had on teachers.
Didn't one of the people on question time make the point that Enoch Powell was wrong in the 70s and inspired by similar populist hate or did we get a different version yn Cymru?
Yes the BNP is probably run be well educated intelligent people, politicians tend to be one or other or both.
As intelligent well educated people they will have realised that they need popular policies to gain support.
British Jobs for British workers---the strap line of their euro campaign-is typical.
As Gulson points out it is the disenfranchised the poor the needy who will vote BNP because they have no other choice that they think is in their interest. Ive met quite a few BNP voters when Ive been out knocking on doors. Every single one was previously a Tory or Labour voter who felt abandoned by the party to whom they once held strong allegiance. That's hardly a surprise is it?
A quote from here:-
"The Muslim birth rate in Europe is three times higher than the non-Muslim one. If current trends continue, the Muslim population of Europe will nearly double by 2015, while the non-Muslim population will shrink by 3.5 percent."
I'm moving to Alaska.
