I wasn't going to post on this thread again as it has honestly gone on for too long already. That is in no way a dig at the OP or anyone else who has contributed. It's just that in my opinion nothing much has changed, people who are likely to support the BNP will and those who are not won't.
Unfortunately though the way political correct liberals have used words like racist, fascist, and even Nazi in a bid to silence their oponents has seen the words lose their meanings. I remember back in the 1980's people screaming the word fascist at Maggie Thatcher , people hear this now and see scruffy students with soppy signs. Seriously pointing at Griffin and shoutng racist or Nazi is like pointing at a big cream cake and shouting that'll go straight to your hips. Sorry but the words have been banded about so much over the last twenty years that they have become borring predictable and more or less without meaning.
As for grubby Griffin, he got the fuss he wanted and is no doubt still reveling in the publicity, most of which has been gifted to him by people who don't like him. You couldn't make it up, could you?
the bnp does not represent the veiws and aspirations of one million voters in this country even if doctors, solicitors etc vote for it. i have no doupt that some recent imigrants (last 50 years), without thinking or possibly believing in it, would say we need to have a moretorium on imigration because they fear for their own security (selfishness) i also have no doupt that on the single issue of imigration, many millions would identify with that single policy of the bnp.
so, why does the establishment, the corporate media and state television give such presidence to a party who's main plank is imigration, AT THIS TIME AND IN WHO'S INTEREST'S DOES IT SERVE ?
with rocketing unemployment, cuts in wages/salaries, cuts in council budgets and services, cuts in pensions, cuts in education budgets, the the n.h.s. while bankers fill their pockets with billions in tax payers money and their puppets refuse to hand back their 20 pieces of silver, why does it happen AT THIS TIME AND IN WHO'S INTEREST'S DOES IT SERVE ?
with the falling value of the pound and dollar, international tension (blame culture) rising, asset prices falling, surplus productive capacity rising worldwide, wild fluctuations in currency values and stock markets and major collapses in the economies of countries, why does it happen AT THIS TIME AND IN WHO'S INTEREST'S DOES IT SERVE ?
the demonisation and or blaming of any one sector of society as a means to divert peoples attention as a policy/tactic, is as old as time. claims that there are this many imigrants or that many asylum seeker's are irrelevant to the well being of the populous. the biggest by far, drain on the economy and human resources is INTEREST ! THIS IS HOW THE USERERS ARE ABLE TO EXTRACT A POUND OF FLESH WITHOUT DRAWING ANY BLOOD (merchant of venice)
without realising it, innocently, when falling for the imigration DIVERSION, such people, iliterate of history, tread the path to war. the destruction of the means of production including buildings machines and people, in order to lend again for rebuilding AT INTEREST !
once again i ask...WHAT IS THE B.N.P. WHO FUNDS IT AND IN WHO'S INTEREST'S DOES IT SERVE ?
@Gulsonroad,
Just seen the morning papers and they are still at it. BNP this and BNP that, my conclusion is that this is all smoke and mirrors. What we have seen this week is an inexperienced leader of a minor party catapulted on to the big stage and under the spotlight. Griffin himself was obviously big headed enough to believe he could handle it, but he was out of his depth, and in all honesty did well to see it through. But the BNP are no more a threat now than they were this time last year, so why have the Government and the BBC done this?
The answer has got to be to divert the attention away from their own wrongdoings and blatent contempt for this country and it's people.
BTW, did anyone get any post on Thursday?
i may be wrong but i smell tho odour of another big event about to occur and i dont mean the bnp getting catapulted into the popular domain. the rate at which the thought's, idea's and thinking of the population is being changed by deliberately focused propaganda campaigns against minorities drives me to look for "the slight of hand". something is afoot. i wonder are the rockerfella's, j.p. morgan chase and goldman sach's of this world about to dump "derivitives" on the british and american tax payers and dump the pound and dollar in favour of a new world currency very soon. coincidently, this week, while all the attention was on question time, mervyn king of the b.o.e. said that we need re-regulation of the banking sector, the separation of chartered (high street retail) banks from commercial banks (hedge funds/paper/derivitives). a reintroduction of glass steagal.
it is not a question of if, but when such a change takes place, contrary to brown and darlings fervent opposition on behalf of their controllers in the city. when it does, regardless of imigration, asylum seekers,lazy bastards,benefit cheats,muslims,catholics,hindu's,anglicans,jews,blackies,brownies,yellowies,whities,kent swingers or phukin martians, the british economy will go down rapidly and the quality of life of 98% of us will go down far more rapidly than it has already.
its time for people to think for themselves independently and and alway's ask yourself this question...."IN WHO'S INTEREST'S DOES IT SERVE ?"
by the way, the middle classes become destroyed ALONG WITH THE WORKING CLASS IN A DEPRESSION KENTY, WETHER THEY ARE WHITE, BROWN OR BLACK. unfortunately i have lowered myself to engage you but as well as having an overall veiw, it is necessary to expose peoples veiws that are at least misguided if not downright deliberate as in the case of the bnp.
i wonder what the policy of the bnp is on sexuality ? i might be wrong cos i'm not too bright but i think, whilst many members of the bnp may have diverse practices, they will be, like all the other party hipocrites, promoters of fidelity and hetrosexuality not polymory, bisexuality or homosexuality. if fact, they are likely to be violently hostile to bisexuality or homosexuality. perhaps i'm wrong but i suspect they wont be in favour of swinging and would probably suggest that swinging was brought here by godless, depraved imigrant scum as one of the tenets of their religeon and is undermining white british society. this is a question for kenty please, now no barracking, let him have his say. he is entitled to his opinions even if they are wrong.
Max....I asked a question earlier in the thread, or should I say a few questions.
Not one person has answered them, least of all the poster that seems to have all the talk, but actually no logical answers.
So I shall ask again......can you answer my questions I posed earlier??
" If you think you are so smart can you tell me how we can sustain those kinds of numbers? If local services are at breaking point, how will it be after another ten million?
Where will they live? how will they work? How will the housing section cope? How much more burdened does the welfare system become? Even immigrants themselves are saying what I have been saying..." controlled immigration ". If people cannot see the logic in that, then let them answer the questions I have raised above ".
Obviously not.
Kenty,
The points that you are making (in blue type) are difficult to deny and even more difficult to answer. Britain is terribly overcrowded, especially England, the economy is in permanent meltdown, housing is short, and unemployment is soaring. The labour government refuse to admit they are doing anything wrong and continue to allow people to come here with no jobs, no money, and nowhere to live.
I believe they think that by shifting the attention on to the BNP they can avoid what I see as inevitable civil unrest. They might well have held it up for a while but it will happen. 2010 will be a year of strikes, riots, and political unrest. When Brown departs from Downing Street it will be in total humiliation, if this was America he would be in danger of assassination.
If I was an immigrant I wouldn't want to come to a country that is in this mess, but they are obviously getting the wrong advice. Because it is going to take decades to get Britain back on her feet, if it is even possible.
How could any rational thinking person not worry about what the future holds? Especially for future generations.
I never said it was a vote winner I said it was an answer
perhaps for the sake of paying lip service to those who will not answer my question, i should begin with...IN MY OPINION. not what is. people who come here and who have already come here will live in some form of accomadation, from a mansion to a tent, as they always have done. not my subjective opinion, fact.
people who come here will survive, hopefully, in whatever social condition presents to them. fact
this countries welfare and social system has always been underfunded, thats the way the system works and always have done (dont want to go into an expose at this moment)fact.
peoples of many cultures and colours have migrated here since the ice
the population of this country exploded from under tens of millions to 60 million during the industrial revolution, without a state welfare structure. fact
people will congregate together/combine in their interest of support for one another, as they always have done anywhere in humanity. fact
i do not have solutions for the present crisis but, solutions come from knowlege and i have every confidence that the solutions to all phenomina are out there. those solutions will not com from ignorance. blaming asylum seekers/imigrants, lazy bastards, work shy, claimants etc will definately not solve any of the problems we face, on the contrary, it will only create division.......IN WHO'S INTEREST'S DOES IT SERVE, WHO ARE THE BNP, WHO IS FUNDING THEM ?
these previous threads are my opinions. it is my opinion that kenty and people like him, inocently or not, expound veiws that serve the interests of the few, the economically most powerful in society. they do not serve the interest's of the vast majority who will be used as pawns in conflicts. it is in all our interest's to have a good quality of life, "foreigners" included. the cessation of imigration will not prevent a fall in all our living standards. repatriation will not improve our living standards and in the "final solution" gas chambers wont either.
the only thing that will improve man's quality of life, is the repudiation of DEPT !
There are some people who believe that the BNP is a state funded and controled organisation that not only keeps those involved in British nationalism, past and present, above ground, but also makes all their details available to MI5 and Special Branch. From what I can see the people saying this are just looney toons posting on looney Internet forums and guestbooks. Having said that I once believed that David Icke was a headcase but now think he is prety much right about most things.
If there is any truth in the state controled rumour then what happened on Thursday night would have been planned, and the reasons could be even more sinister than anyone could imagine.
Sorry Gulson but I really cannot see any logic in your arguements.
Staggers whilst I appreciate you answering my questions, they are not really valid answers, as the question of where is the bloody money going to come from, has not been answered in a logical manner.
Was it not Two Jags that implimented building projects up and down the land? For all around where I live and my journey to work, there have been SEVEN new housing estates built in the last five years alone. That is just in my area.
I think whilst you tried to answer my questions, most people living and working here would never tolerate your suggestions.
You cannot put 25 eggs into a basket that only holds twelve, without them falling out and breaking.
I have absolutly no problem at all with immigration as long as it is to the benefit Of British people, the economy and the stability of the UK.
Allowing an open door policy has only served the Labour Government, certainly not the people and is one of many reasons why they will be booted out, brown will skittle out of no 10 with his tail between his arse, never to be heard of again.
The Tories have some reasonable policies on immigration but they do not go far enough, as even they are terrified of the tag they could stick with them IF they decide to toughen up big time on immigration.
What a situation we are creating for all our kids and our Grandkids. It won't be too many years into the future where this green and pleasant land of ours will have 100 million in it, and no green belt and no rolling countrysides to walk through. It will all go with huge housing estates built to accomodate people.
