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I'm superior
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I'm superior
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I'm so superior I've stopped even considering everyone elses' inferiority
Quote by gulsonroad30664
max777m i do not THINK i am superior to anyone and i am sorry that you will not accept my apology as sincere but i repeat, it is not my intention to patronise you or anyone else, i do not consider myself to be superior to you or anyone else and i apologise in advance if anything i write is interpreted in that way and have no wish to lecture you or anyone else in economic's on this site. thank you for addressing my question although it was tongue in cheek as your answer was already implicit in your previous threads.
the purpose of this part of the site, hopefully (current affairs) is to stimulate debate, voice opinions and generate interest in what is possibly, the most liberated unprejudiced section of society. long may it continue.

I'm well aware of the intended purpose of this part of the site ..but I don't think it encourages debate when you state that XXXX is entitled to his/her opinion but that they are wrong or when you list a series of points, ending each one with FACT.....when your "facts" are a load of bollox, or telling people they haven't got a clue.
Anyway, having said that, apology accepted smile
I have said this before and will keep saying it until I am in my box!
A Scotsman is SCOTTISH
A Welshman is WELSH
An Irishman is IRISH
And an Englishman is.................British? Bollox
Why is is that all the other Nationalities can say that, but in England you have to/or be classed as British?
I am an Englishman living in England period for me.
Quote by SlurpySarah
A quote from here:-
"The Muslim birth rate in Europe is three times higher than the non-Muslim one. If current trends continue, the Muslim population of Europe will nearly double by 2015, while the non-Muslim population will shrink by 3.5 percent."
I'm moving to Alaska.

Super. But lets hope the Alaskan National Party doesn't cotton on, eh? wink
Errrm............there is no Alaskan National Party. So, your post is a pointlessly inflammatory comment followed by an incorrect assertion. Are you a labour supporter who was in the QT audience by any chance?
If you're going to snipe, at least try and get it right.
Did that give you a new parting when it went "whoosh" over your head? rolleyes
And sniping's not really my style. I far prefer to point out the hypocrisy and abject stupidity of peoples comments and leave the rest to them.
:wink:
ah ha, max777, my facts are bollox, yours are correct. that max is relative. relative from where you are observing. relative to the source of your facts, who wrote the facts, what their relative observing position is and the accuracy of their data relative to the prevailing material/political/economic conditions at that time. and, from where you retrieved your research data. i believe that both you and XXXXX are inaliably entitled to your veiws but on the question of imigration, i believe that you and XXXXX are wrong and i beleive i can prove it absolutely, but only from an economic standpoint and unfortunately that would only close down your reception as you would interpret it as lecturing.
i ask you to consider this question.
why has the media stimulated this issue at this time with miles of print and hours of airtime ?
Quote by gulsonroad30664
ah ha, max777, my facts are bollox, yours are correct. that max is relative. relative from where you are observing. relative to the source of your facts, who wrote the facts, what their relative observing position is and the accuracy of their data relative to the prevailing material/political/economic conditions at that time. and, from where you retrieved your research data. i believe that both you and XXXXX are inaliably entitled to your veiws but on the question of imigration, i believe that you and XXXXX are wrong and i beleive i can prove it absolutely, but only from an economic standpoint and unfortunately that would only close down your reception as you would interpret it as lecturing.
i ask you to consider this question.
why has the media stimulated this issue at this time with miles of print and hours of airtime ?

Gulsonroad, I have no idea as to whether all your facts are bollox, the ones that I took issue with certainly are. I really couldn't be arsed to research them. If you want to know where I got my facts from, go back and look at the link I posted.....you can then google "german population" ....oh and whilst you are it google "industrial revolution".
Tell you what, you tell me, in your opinion, why the media has stimulated this issue?
Quote by kentswingers777
I have said this before and will keep saying it until I am in my box!
A Scotsman is SCOTTISH BRITISH
A Welshman is WELSH BRITISH
An Irishman is IRISH BRITISHor Irish if from the republic
And an Englishman is.................British? Bollox
Why is is that all the other Nationalities can say that, but in England you have to/or be classed as British?
I am an Englishman living in England period for me.

Got one right Kenty.....must try harder c
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I have said this before and will keep saying it until I am in my box!
A Scotsman is SCOTTISH BRITISH
A Welshman is WELSH BRITISH
An Irishman is IRISH BRITISHor Irish if from the republic
And an Englishman is.................British? Bollox
Why is is that all the other Nationalities can say that, but in England you have to/or be classed as British?
I am an Englishman living in England period for me.

Got one right Kenty.....must try harder c
Sexist barstewards rolleyes
Quote by Witchy
I have said this before and will keep saying it until I am in my box!
A Scotsman is SCOTTISH BRITISH
A Welshman is WELSH BRITISH
An Irishman is IRISH BRITISHor Irish if from the republic
And an Englishman is.................British? Bollox
Why is is that all the other Nationalities can say that, but in England you have to/or be classed as British?
I am an Englishman living in England period for me.

Got one right Kenty.....must try harder c
Sexist barstewards rolleyes
I was merely quoting they're all obviously PERSONS of British nationality
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I have said this before and will keep saying it until I am in my box!
A Scotsman is SCOTTISH BRITISH
A Welshman is WELSH BRITISH
An Irishman is IRISH BRITISHor Irish if from the republic
And an Englishman is.................British? Bollox
Why is is that all the other Nationalities can say that, but in England you have to/or be classed as British?
I am an Englishman living in England period for me.

Got one right Kenty.....must try harder c
Sexist barstewards rolleyes
I was merely quoting they're all obviously PERSONS of British nationality
:mytoungewasinycheekemote: wink
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I have said this before and will keep saying it until I am in my box!
A Scotsman is SCOTTISH BRITISH
A Welshman is WELSH BRITISH
An Irishman is IRISH BRITISHor Irish if from the republic
And an Englishman is.................British? Bollox
Why is is that all the other Nationalities can say that, but in England you have to/or be classed as British?
I am an Englishman living in England period for me.

Got one right Kenty.....must try harder c
Staggs....you try telling a Scotsman he is British. Ya could get a kick in the royal goolies.
I must be seeing things.....wings in the air, and a Irishman who is now British.....whatever next?
Quote by Witchy
A quote from here:-
"The Muslim birth rate in Europe is three times higher than the non-Muslim one. If current trends continue, the Muslim population of Europe will nearly double by 2015, while the non-Muslim population will shrink by 3.5 percent."
I'm moving to Alaska.

Super. But lets hope the Alaskan National Party doesn't cotton on, eh? wink
Errrm............there is no Alaskan National Party. So, your post is a pointlessly inflammatory comment followed by an incorrect assertion. Are you a labour supporter who was in the QT audience by any chance?
If you're going to snipe, at least try and get it right.
Did that give you a new parting when it went "whoosh" over your head? rolleyes
And sniping's not really my style. I far prefer to point out the hypocrisy and abject stupidity of peoples comments and leave the rest to them.
:wink:
Sorry dude, but your post was pointless and contributed nothing to general theme of the thread. You showed all the integrity of the QT audience. I won't bother responding to any more of your snipes - I have a life. lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote by kentswingers777
I have said this before and will keep saying it until I am in my box!
A Scotsman is SCOTTISH BRITISH
A Welshman is WELSH BRITISH
An Irishman is IRISH BRITISHor Irish if from the republic
And an Englishman is.................British? Bollox
Why is is that all the other Nationalities can say that, but in England you have to/or be classed as British?
I am an Englishman living in England period for me.

Got one right Kenty.....must try harder c
Staggs....you try telling a Scotsman he is British. Ya could get a kick in the royal goolies.
I must be seeing things.....wings in the air, and a Irishman who is now British.....whatever next?
I was born in London , mum was Scottish ..father welsh...was adopted ..mum was English..dad is Scottish...i was in foster homes in London and Birmingham...when adopted came to Scotland...so for a long time was confused...now I'm British...except when watching rugby..then I'm Scottish....cricket..I'm English...athletics I'm British...football..I'm impartial...guess I'm still a bit confused.... confused ..I'm certainly not a racist tho.... cool
Quote by kentswingers777
I have said this before and will keep saying it until I am in my box!
A Scotsman is SCOTTISH
A Welshman is WELSH
An Irishman is IRISH
And an Englishman is.................British? Bollox
Why is is that all the other Nationalities can say that, but in England you have to/or be classed as British?
I am an Englishman living in England period for me.

Kenty, What constitutes (the criteria) for someone to be English, Welsh, Scots, Irish, Manx or a Channel Islander. Or indeed American, Chinese, Russian, Austrialian and so on.
I know you asked Kenty for a reply Al, but I would like to add my take upon it.
Your (the royal "Your" here) citizenship declaring whether you are British, American, Chinese etc is decided by the Protectorate under whose passport you hold.
No person can decide whether they are Cornish, Welsh, Irish or Martian by virtue of how they see it! its decided in law for you so no point in arguing this is the same all over the world! The only thing you can say is that "I am of xxxxx descent" where xxxxx = scots, welsh, etc
England is not a governing country, nor is Wales or Scotland or Northern Ireland. Look at your passport if it says United Kingdom of Great Britain on the front then your British.
Quote by Rogue_trader
I know you asked Kenty for a reply Al, but I would like to add my take upon it.
Your (the royal "Your" here) citizenship declaring whether you are British, American, Chinese etc is decided by the Protectorate under whose passport you hold.
No person can decide whether they are Cornish, Welsh, Irish or Martian by virtue of how they see it! its decided in law for you so no point in arguing this is the same all over the world! The only thing you can say is that "I am of xxxxx descent" where xxxxx = scots, welsh, etc
England is not a governing country, nor is Wales or Scotland or Northern Ireland. Look at your passport if it says United Kingdom of Great Britain on the front then your British.

:thumbup: confusion over....Cheers Rogue_ smile
So it seems now that " an Englishmans home is not his castle ". Is it now a Britishmans home?
Or what do we now call the England football team? The British team?
Don't be so silly. A bit like some think the St Georges flag has some kind of undertones, people think everyone who lives here is now British.
Sorry this is England, I was born here so therefore I can call myself English if that is what I choose to do.....and I do.
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Or what do we now call the England football team? The British team?
Don't be so silly. A bit like some think the St Georges flag has some kind of undertones, people think everyone who lives here is now British.
Sorry this is England, I was born here so therefore I can call myself English if that is what I choose to do.....and I do.

The football team represents a portion of Britain, it doesn't represent the United Kingdom. Just like Chelsea, West Ham, Man City represent portions of an area.
St. Georges Flag???? what has that got to do with being British? it has no representation except for an adopted saint for England, same as St. Pirrans flag for Cornwall.
As I stated previous the Law is quite clear, the passport that you are granted by a country states clearly which nationality and protectorate you come under. You show me an English passport and I'll accept you are English, until then you are in the eyes of the law and the other 6 billion people in the world British.
Just a thought, Citizens of the member countries of the European Union are also citizens of the union itself, and this is recognised on the passports. They bear both the name of the European Union and of the issuing country.......so shouldn't we all consider ourselves Europeans?
Actually I have no problem in holding a British passport but considering myself to be English.
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so shouldn't we all consider ourselves Europeans?

Spot On, we should indeed!!
And yes you hold a British Passport and can consider yourself English, that is perfectly reasonable and subjective view of oneself.
I live in Devon and have done for many many years I consider myself to be Devonian and British!
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Just a thought, Citizens of the member countries of the European Union are also citizens of the union itself, and this is recognised on the passports. They bear both the name of the European Union and of the issuing country.......so shouldn't we all consider ourselves Europeans?
Actually I have no problem in holding a British passport but considering myself to be English.

No way.....not in a million years Max.
Reason? What constitutes ANYONE to tell me I am European?
We joined the EEC in the 70's where people held a referendum on it BUT....that was ONLY for trade purposes. Where has it been put in place that we are now Europeans? From France or the Germans? They have always wanted to get one over on the English, but always failed. This is the only wat they could ever have got to the situation of telling us what we can and cannot do.
I am proud to be English, I am not and never will be European. I refused to put a sticker on my bike number plate of the European Union, just to go abroad on. There is a union Jack on it.
European? Not as long as I have breath in my body Max.
I think some people should argue whether they are human. rolleyes
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I refused to put a sticker on my bike number plate of the European Union, just to go abroad on. There is a union Jack on it.

Change it for one of these then ;-)
Quote by kentswingers777
Just a thought, Citizens of the member countries of the European Union are also citizens of the union itself, and this is recognised on the passports. They bear both the name of the European Union and of the issuing country.......so shouldn't we all consider ourselves Europeans?
Actually I have no problem in holding a British passport but considering myself to be English.

No way.....not in a million years Max.
Reason? What constitutes ANYONE to tell me I am European?
We joined the EEC in the 70's where people held a referendum on it BUT....that was ONLY for trade purposes. Where has it been put in place that we are now Europeans? From France or the Germans? They have always wanted to get one over on the English, but always failed. This is the only wat they could ever have got to the situation of telling us what we can and cannot do.
I am proud to be English, I am not and never will be European. I refused to put a sticker on my bike number plate of the European Union, just to go abroad on. There is a union Jack on it.
European? Not as long as I have breath in my body Max.
It was a very tongue in cheek question, Kenty. I was just taking the English/British debate to it's next logical level.
The State dictates that they decide our nationality and on the last census forms Labours devolution policy was there in black and White (or whatever colour the form was). You see Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have their own parliaments to take more local decisions away from Westminster and allow those regions more of a say in their own affairs. This is all well and good, for them, but we English have no seperate parliament just for English matters, we have to cow tow to a central governmentbwith a Scottish Prime Sinister and with ex IRA bombers in it. Wither ye not though, it was all explained on the census forms, as an entity we don't really exist. We are here to accept whatever the Labour party decide on our behalf because the majority have been stupid enough to elect them. We could have had an early General Election las year, but when it became obvious that Brown would have lost we were told we'd have to wait till 2010, meanwhile he is making sure the ship is even more lost at sea when the next captain takes over. The fact that we have close to 3m unemployed and an open door immigration policy, that the population is set to grow by another 10m over the next few years, that we are losing the best of our youth fighting wars that are none of our business, that the government are pouring the national wealth in it's billions of pounds down the drain and even selling the gold reserves cheaply, and we are to just sit here and read about this every day without reacting! Never mind old boy, stiff upper lip and all that. Here's an idea, lets put Nick Griffin on question time and make everyone worry that the "narzis" are going to take over, that'll keep them off our backs for a while.
The point I'm trying to make here is that this whole bloody mess is down to the Labour government, they have been screwing us since the day they took office back in 1997. It's not so much the British people they don't like, it is the English. Brown is like a city fan that has just been put in charge of united, with the exeption being he can't be sacked as quickly, he will not be happy until we are a none league outfit. Personally I'd love to see Blair and Brown hanged for treason, they have destroyed this country. :0(
Kenty you are European in the same way as someone from China is Asian.
It cant be helped you live where you do!
You are an English Person who holds a British Citizen Passport, simples!
Quote by SlurpySarah
A quote from here:-
"The Muslim birth rate in Europe is three times higher than the non-Muslim one. If current trends continue, the Muslim population of Europe will nearly double by 2015, while the non-Muslim population will shrink by 3.5 percent."
I'm moving to Alaska.

Super. But lets hope the Alaskan National Party doesn't cotton on, eh? wink
Errrm............there is no Alaskan National Party. So, your post is a pointlessly inflammatory comment followed by an incorrect assertion. Are you a labour supporter who was in the QT audience by any chance?
If you're going to snipe, at least try and get it right.
Did that give you a new parting when it went "whoosh" over your head? rolleyes
And sniping's not really my style. I far prefer to point out the hypocrisy and abject stupidity of peoples comments and leave the rest to them.
:wink:
Sorry dude, but your post was pointless and contributed nothing to general theme of the thread. You showed all the integrity of the QT audience. I won't bother responding to any more of your snipes - I have a life. lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol:
Fair enough- but it was only pointless if you didn't get it :thumbup: