You are quite correct Davey.
Flower has accused me of being racist in the past, and now accuses me of stirring up religious hatred.
Of course to say anything now about anyone or anything, it seems you are this or that. That is what so called New Labour has achieved.
It is no coincidence that it is always the same four people that moan on here.
IF anyone wants to call me racist this or that I really could not give a toss. I have merely as Davey has quite rightly pointed out, taken things from daily papers. Now I am sure that if they were spouting any form of hatred be it racist or religious, then the powers to be would act.
People wonder why the BNP are growing when people like on here, want to shut people like me up from saying anything by branding me a racist or stirring up hatred,to try and frighten people like me into submission! Well it don't work with me. It may have worked with politicians too scared to address anything, but funnily enough with an election looming even Gordon Bottler Brown is now saying it it not racist to talk about immigration.....well he would now as he knows it is a huge issue for many and knows it is a vote loser.
I will not be bullied by people on here with their left wing views, and told to shut up.
But making accusations about other members on here, to be racist should be part of the AUP's policy of what you cannot say on here.
IF you think I am being racist then do what some do on here and report me to admin, I am sure many have.
I have been banned on here for my arguements with a couple of members but funnily enough never for my views, or my links.
So stick that in ya pipe and smoke it.
It just seems to me that it is far easier to ban jewellry, than to do the other major things which DO cause the vast majority of infections in hospitals.....PROPER hygiene in other words getting proper people in to clean the hospitals, and washing hands and making sure that everyone who enters a hospital washes their hands with bacterial soap.
But that is way too difficult to implement so they use a much easier option. As I have said already.....where exactly is the proof that jewellry causes infection exactly?
Maybe just maybe in this case it does indeed have nothing to do with ones religion, but the bangle and the BA worker certainly does.
But then again sometimes the law is applied to one section of a religion over the majority. I ride a motorbike and by law have to wear a crash helmet, but there are some sections who do not. Now nobody is forced to ride a motorbike as they have other options, but whilst the crash helemt law applies to me, other people can be excluded from that law based on their religion.....so there is religious discrimination out there.....probably always will be.
Is there anyone you listen too away?
Anyone who has an opinion different to yours, you slag off.
But hey such is life.
This thread is a whinge about religious minorities being treated better than indigenous religious cultures. It has been thinly veiled as usual to cover whatever the true motives are which are either to seek attention by expressing immoderate views or to spread hate.
I take the point Dave that such debates are media driven. However newspapers have extensive legal teams which ensure the hate they spread stays within the law, just about. The folk who spread hate and unrest on these forums have no such back up and frequently fall foul of existing legislation. I am irritated by it mostly because it goes against my egalitarian principles but partly because I would be very upset to see our community attacked because of illegal intolerant views expressed on an unnecessary forum.
I gave up reporting racist/divisist threads to admin when the gypsy thread was allowed to run and run. I intend to continue to challenge threads that I believe are designed to promote hate and point out when I think such threads bring our community into disrepute.
As im sure you know it is illegal to promote hatred on the grounds of religion. Please refer to your other threads for details form various contributors.
"frequent request to gte people banned" is of course bollox and a figment of your imagination.
I think you are answerable to the whole community when you are asked what your motivation is in posting these hateful threads.
I am politically active and make many large and small efforts to make a difference.
I do complain to the appropriate people on occasion about newspaper reporting. As I said newspapers know how to walk the hate line. You do not and frequently fall over it.
Well let us agree to disagree eh?
You do not moderate this site and until such time I am told to stop using links, or am warned that my behavour has racist or religious hatred undertones attatched to them by the relevant authorities, then I shall continue as a matter of debate.
What is really funny is that for ages I was accused of being racist on here, BUT as soon as that Question time programme came on, and those people said what I had been saying, I did not hear another whisper on here from anyone.
Now even Brown has said it is ok, as I have already said he would do as he is now fighting for his political career.
As a matter of interest though, what makes you think that the very people you want to stick up for, actually want you too? Have you asked them if they want you to be their savour?
There was a very inteligent Muslim on the tv the other night, who talked more sense than most people do. He does not want people sticking up for him, he does not want white Liberals coming to his aid. He feels he is inteligent enough to speak for himself and his opinions are echoed throughout the Muslim community.
I would listen to him all day long and did he talk a lot of sense, not like so many others.
On that note I am finished with this thread as to continue would have no objective.
Your presumption that I am a white anglo saxon protestant is wrong but has no bearing on my inclination to stand up to your offensive posts.
I am glad the latest example of your intolerance has drawn to a close but disappointed that you haven't clarified your intentions in making these posts.
But then regular readers will no doubt be aware that a reply to a direct question is rarely forthcoming.
And this is one of the reasons that so many people are scared stiff to debate issues of religion and race. This is a new phenomenon, which has grown up around new labour. People's views, some times very legitimate, are all to often silenced by cries of intolerance and racist.
Yes you WAS mistaken.....I say again.........you WAS mistaken.
I am not like some who go running like little children to the head teacher because Johny has taken my ball.
Not that I am giving you any advice, but read again admins pm to you and then think again before you say I am spouting religious hatred. Because like me I think neither one of us wants to get banned permanently from this site.
I will continue to say what I say as long as it does not step outside of the AUP, and when it has I have paid the price with a ban. I do not want another one and I presume neither do you, as this time it will probably be a life one, and am sure neither one of us want that.
So we will BOTH have to be very careful what we spout about each other.
Blue no it isn't new. Both the incitement of religious division and critic of such incitement are well documented in the run up to WWII. How soon we forget, sadly.
Who all?
History repeats itself first as tragedy then as farce.
I do hope you arent gonna become an asinine double standardist pedant. Ive quite enjoyed your contributions.
I understand you position Blue. I have asked the original poster to clarify their intentions and have had no response.
This post is not and has never been about religion it is about 'Sthere you go I've said it....just as some of you would love to feel able to 'Ssaid it again
Kenty you say that the supposed lack of debate about immigration,religion,and ethnicity fuel the rise of the B.N.P. .....BOLLOCKSwhat fuels their rise is the evil spiteful shite spouted by your beloved daily mail and its cohorts in Wapping.....they spread lies and misinformation that many (and I include you)are either unwilling or unable to analyse....serious question.. why even when confronted with evidence to the contrary do you still believe the crap they spout...I can only think of two answers 1: you are an idiot or 2:you are a racist...take your pick.
I've addressed this to you kenty boy because you are the worst and most frequent offender you are by no means the one on here (names supplied on request..in the forum,I've no interest in any pm's)
If you want a debate about race have the nuts to start one and stop with these thinly veiled arguments about 'religious intolerance' it's bullshit you know it I know it and so does everybody else who comes here
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