RSPCA court controversy

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Steve
RSPCA....
Only interested in big,high profile cases...
The conditions they have returned some animals to beggars belief...
And on more than 1 occasion as well...
Returning animals to a woman who has mental health issues and can barely look after herself let alone her pets and keeps the animals in squalid conditions....
They took the animals from her....Fed them back up to a decent state of health then gave them back to her so she could do it all over again...

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009

Of all the people on here I would never have guessed this one sided biased view would have been from you Blue. banghead

Oh and the video of the German Shepherds that the RSPCA ' apparently ' killed with a stun gun for no reason whatsoever, have a proper look at the so called dog laying on the ground. That is no dog that is a wolf. I really hate one sided links like that Blue without a shred of evidence that any of those cases highlighted were factual.
Reading this link shows a total hatred of the RSPCA and all of it's practices. Tell me Blue seeing as you posted the link, do you believe everything you read, and is everything perfect? The RSPCA is not a perfect organisation, hospitals and Doctors are not perfect either, but we would rather they were here than not. The RSPCA may not be perfect Blue but it would be far worse for the animals out there who would otherwise suffer a heck of a lot worse without them.
Shall I have a Google and show some of the great and wonderful kind things the RSPCA do on a daily basis?

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

Of all the people on here I would never have guessed this one sided biased view would have been from you Blue. banghead

Oh and the video of the German Shepherds that the RSPCA ' apparentl ' killed with a stun gun for no reason whatsoever, have a proper look at the so called dog laying on the ground. That is no dog that is a wolf. I really hate one sided links like that Blue without a shred of evidence that any of those cases highlighted were factual.
Reading this link shows a total hatred of the RSPCA and all of it's practices. Tell me Blue seeing as you posted the link, do you believe everything you read, and is everything perfect?
I treat stories here like I treat all stories I read, I read them and make an informed judgment on each, Just as you have done
I read the good stories, and I read the bad storie and make my own mind up
Since when did a storie have to be factual in any meadia based area

10 Feb 2013

Why then Blue do you only post negative things about the RSPCA? I have never seen you post a single positive thing, and yet there are dozens of stories on the web that states the great work they do. Why do you never post one of those Blue?
Your latest link is laughable in the extreme and I notice you did not comment on that so called dog that is a wolf. Funny that. Have a look around Blue and post a great success story of the RSPCA and it's work. Then I will know that you are not biased in any way, or harbour hidden agendas.
I shall await you non biased view.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Why then Blue do you only post negative things about the RSPCA? I have never seen you post a single positive thing, and yet there are dozens of stories on the web that states the great work they do. Why do you never post one of those Blue?
Your latest link is laughable in the extreme and I notice you did not comment on that so called dog that is a wolf. Funny that. Have a look around Blue and post a great success story of the RSPCA and it's work. Then I will know that you are not biased in any way, or harbour hidden agendas.
I shall await you non biased view.

I have said before I do not hate the RSPCA, I think you will find I have already said I support the export of live animals campaign
What would be the point in posting a positive story? Where would a debate go if everybody here agreed with me? pointless
I have no hidden agenda, my agenda is here for all to read, and in case you missed it, I believe them to be wrong on there stance on hunting, hope this helps you star wink

In fact star, until there change of stance on hunting I used to financially support the RSPCA

10 Feb 2013

Quote by blue
What would be the point in posting a positive story? Where would a debate go if everybody here agreed with me? pointless

I think hell would freeze over before star would agree with you on anything blue :lol2:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by blue
What would be the point in posting a positive story? Where would a debate go if everybody here agreed with me? pointless

Quote by GnV
I think hell would freeze over before star would agree with you on anything blue :lol2:

Not at all GnV.....At least Blue knows something about the countryside, unlike some others. innocent

10 Feb 2013

Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead by all accounts....

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead by all accounts....

Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead by all accounts....

Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.
So, it's true then.... Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead.

10 Feb 2013

Here you go Star, more from your friend James Barrington, yet again, a fare and balanced article

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead by all accounts....

Quote by starlightcouple
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.

Quote by GnV
So, it's true then.... Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead.

Well you hissed off to France GnV so why do you care so much about the English countryside? Stick to the rurals of central France if I was you . flipa

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead by all accounts....

Quote by starlightcouple
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.

Quote by GnV
So, it's true then.... Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead.

Well you hissed off to France GnV so why do you care so much about the English countryside? Stick to the rurals of central France if I was you . flipa

You going to pay my removal expenses star?
I live in the SW of France.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead by all accounts....

Quote by starlightcouple
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.

Quote by GnV
So, it's true then.... Not a lot of countryside on Thamesmead.

Well you hissed off to France GnV so why do you care so much about the English countryside? Stick to the rurals of central France if I was you . flipa

You going to pay my removal expenses star?
I live in the SW of France.
Ah right..........the cheapskate area.
:thumbup: About as bad as Souff London, well not according to everyone. :lol2:

10 Feb 2013

starlightcouple wrote:
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.
So true star......
Hoist by your own petard comes to mind.
I'd give up if I were you

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
starlightcouple wrote:
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.
So true star......
Hoist by your own petard comes to mind.
I'd give up if I were you

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
starlightcouple wrote:
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.
So true star......
Hoist by your own petard comes to mind.
I'd give up if I were you

Sorry, your point is?

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
starlightcouple wrote:
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.
So true star......
Hoist by your own petard comes to mind.
I'd give up if I were you

Sorry, your point is?
Your just such a cad GnV. :bounce:

10 Feb 2013

I think I've just discovered the meaning of life...
Star runs in 2 threads at the same time on the same subject so
A) he can confuse
B) he can give the appearance of typing responses quickly in both :lol2:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Shall I have a Google and show some of the great and wonderful kind things the RSPCA do on a daily basis?

No point in doing that as they ruin it all with the bad things they do...

10 Feb 2013

Star
As I know your a fan of James Barrington's unbiassed articles, I was hopping for your honest and unbiased opinion on this article of his wink

10 Feb 2013

I'd be interested in star's response too... Especially in regard to this bit...
"Why was the Act drafted this way? The answer is simple. It was not designed to improve animal welfare, but to create technical offences to get at a certain type of person, while all along fooling the public that some good would be done. I sat through every stage of the hunting bill, as it then was, and the ignorance of many anti-hunting MPs was astounding, but their prejudices were obvious."
Couldn't have put it better myself.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009
Star
As I know your a fan of James Barrington's unbiassed articles, I was hopping for your honest and unbiased opinion on this article of his

That was an interesting article. It was so good I can see why you posted it twice lol

However I wouldn't call it unbiased seeing as it comes from an animal welfare consultant for the Countryside Alliance and Council of Hunting Associations.
He makes a perfectly valid point that long term animal welfare is nothing to do with the Hunting Act, animal welfare has its own Act and is a separate matter entirely under the law. The Hunting Act deals with hunting and I definitely support his call that the Hunting Act is not sufficient, and that it need to go further and ban hunting or be repealed completely.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
I eat rabbit, and enjoy it. I would also happily see cats eradicated

What would fox taste like?
Sweet with a hint of salty or so I'm told. :giggle:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
Star
As I know your a fan of James Barrington's unbiassed articles, I was hopping for your honest and unbiased opinion on this article of his

That was an interesting article. It was so good I can see why you posted it twice lol

However I wouldn't call it unbiased seeing as it comes from an animal welfare consultant for the Countryside Alliance and Council of Hunting Associations.
He makes a perfectly valid point that long term animal welfare is nothing to do with the Hunting Act, animal welfare has its own Act and is a separate matter entirely under the law. The Hunting Act deals with hunting and I definitely support his call that the Hunting Act is not sufficient, and that it need to go further and ban hunting or be repealed completely.
Star will know why I said unbiased, see some where in the urban fox thread
I have always had a massive regard for J/B opinion on animal welfare, he almost always makes very good sense
I have also said on here, ban completely or repeal

10 Feb 2013

Quote by foxylady2209
I eat rabbit, and enjoy it. I would also happily see cats eradicated

What would fox taste like?
Sweet with a hint of salty or so I'm told. :giggle:
Will we require a horse and hounds to hunt down this delicacy wink

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009
Will we require a horse and hounds to hunt down this delicacy

No but you'll probably be able to order it as a bar meal down at the Horse and hounds :lol:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009
Star
As I know your a fan of James Barrington's unbiassed articles, I was hopping for your honest and unbiased opinion on this article of his

Actually Blue, Trev kinda summed it up so much better than I could have. I liked his article that I posted earlier, but to be honest Blue had very little time for the link you posted above mate to be perfectly honest.

Quote by Trev
However I wouldn't call it unbiased seeing as it comes from an animal welfare consultant for the Countryside Alliance and Council of Hunting Associations.
He makes a perfectly valid point that long term animal welfare is nothing to do with the Hunting Act, animal welfare has its own Act and is a separate matter entirely under the law. The Hunting Act deals with hunting and I definitely support his call that the Hunting Act is not sufficient, and that it need to go further and ban hunting or be repealed completely.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Star
As I know your a fan of James Barrington's unbiassed articles, I was hopping for your honest and unbiased opinion on this article of his

Actually Blue, Trev kinda summed it up so much better than I could have. I liked his article that I posted earlier, but to be honest Blue had very little time for the link you posted above mate to be perfectly honest.

Quote by Trev
However I wouldn't call it unbiased seeing as it comes from an animal welfare consultant for the Countryside Alliance and Council of Hunting Associations.
He makes a perfectly valid point that long term animal welfare is nothing to do with the Hunting Act, animal welfare has its own Act and is a separate matter entirely under the law. The Hunting Act deals with hunting and I definitely support his call that the Hunting Act is not sufficient, and that it need to go further and ban hunting or be repealed completely.

So he is only unbiased when you want him to be I guess lol

:lol: I think you will find he has been fare and honest in this article also, just he is not singing the tune you like
He is also ex LACS, his remit is and always has been animal welfare

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009
So he is only unbiased when you want him to be I guess :lol: I think you will find he has been fare and honest in this article also, just he is not singing the tune you like

Not at all Blue. There was pieces in his first article I posted that I did not agree with, yet still posted the article. In that article he put forward a well balanced view of both sides, yet the second link you posted was exactly as Trev stated.