Yes, maybe I am looking for something you are not, Max.
After all, I no longer rely on the BBC to obtain my daily intake of newsworthy items which perhaps broadens my scope somewhat on world affairs and I'm less able (or willing) to sample the scaremongering stories from the red-top comics.
But, you have to agree, (which was basically the tenor of my post) the allocation of tickets to the Sovereign Libyan Authorities is somewhat bizarre (no matter who allocated them) when the ordinary man in the street in the UK can't be allocated what he wants for himself or his family (nor even be told in a timely fashion what he has been allocated - just that his Credit card account has been raided) and £millions of tax payers money is being spent on high level security for the protection of some dubious foreign dignitaries (whether or not they may be allowed to travel) when London cabbies are being treated as if every fare is a potential Al-Qaeda suicide bomber and excluded from significant parts of the Metropolis effectively disenfranchising them from the income opportunity for London business HMG and Mayor Barney Rubble keep on wittering about!
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The allocation of the tickets in this instance is down to the IOC, it has nothing to do with the domestic allocation. Each member country receives an allocation but the host nation's security supercedes who gets these tickets.
If the games were being held in France, the situation would be exactly the same.
If the games were being held in France, the situation would be exactly the same.
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The allocation of the tickets in this instance is down to the IOC, it has nothing to do with the domestic allocation. Each member country receives an allocation but the host nation's security supercedes who gets these tickets.
If the games were being held in France, the situation would be exactly the same.
Is this a competition as to who has the last word
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The allocation of the tickets in this instance is down to the IOC, it has nothing to do with the domestic allocation. Each member country receives an allocation but the host nation's security supercedes who gets these tickets.
If the games were being held in France, the situation would be exactly the same.
Is this a competition as to who has the last word
I don't think so. Max777 has just explained why your posts were not factually correct, and a supposition that any other country would have to do the same.
After all, I no longer rely on the BBC to obtain my daily intake of newsworthy items which perhaps broadens my scope somewhat on world affairs and I'm less able (or willing) to sample the scaremongering stories from the red-top comics.
So if you didn't get the story from the BBC or a red top, where did you get the scaremongering story from then?
Dave_Notts
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The allocation of the tickets in this instance is down to the IOC, it has nothing to do with the domestic allocation. Each member country receives an allocation but the host nation's security supercedes who gets these tickets.
If the games were being held in France, the situation would be exactly the same.
Is this a competition as to who has the last word
I don't think so. Max777 has just explained why your posts were not factually correct, and a supposition that any other country would have to do the same.
After all, I no longer rely on the BBC to obtain my daily intake of newsworthy items which perhaps broadens my scope somewhat on world affairs and I'm less able (or willing) to sample the scaremongering stories from the red-top comics.
So if you didn't get the story from the BBC or a red top, where did you get the scaremongering story from then?
Dave_Notts
Dave
Where is my post factually incorrect?
Have the IOC allocated tickets to Libya or not. Irrespective of whether they have, or not as the case may be, have UK citizens been denied choice in which tickets they have been allocated - effectively a lottery on which tickets they will get for events they may even have no interest in whatsoever (in respect of which they will pay dearly for) when they actually live in the host Country and have paid - albeit indirectly through taxation - for the "privilege" of funding the event?
That is the tenor or my post.
Is it not also factual, as reported on French TV and France 24, that UK citizens would have faired better had they applied for tickets outside the UK?
:dunno:
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Where is my post factually incorrect?
Have the IOC allocated tickets to Libya or not. Irrespective of whether they have, or not as the case may be, have UK citizens been denied choice in which tickets they have been allocated - effectively a lottery on which tickets they will get for events they may even have no interest in whatsoever (in respect of which they will pay dearly for) when they actually live in the host Country and have paid - albeit indirectly through taxation - for the "privilege" of funding the event?
That is the tenor or my post.
Is it not also factual, as reported on French TV and France 24, that UK citizens would have faired better had they applied for tickets outside the UK?
Yes the IOC have allocated tickets to Libya, but you did not say that in your original post. Max77 pointed that out to you. You said:
but were you also aware that 200 prime time tickets have been allocated to Gadaffi's son Saif together with special visa's
The numbers of tickets available to citizens have been an issue for every nation who hosts a major sporting event. FIFA changed the ticketing policy after the shambolic blackmarket that developed at France '98. So is it a UK problem? Not really, as each time a host country sets up a system to be fair there are those that set out to abuse it, then other countries declare they could do better. Well if they could then they would have done it when they hosted a major sporting event, but in 98 France fucked up big style, as have other nations before and after. I doubt it will ever be solved to satisfy everybody, but I suspect that the games will be pretty ful though.
Dave_Notts
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Where is my post factually incorrect?
Have the IOC allocated tickets to Libya or not. Irrespective of whether they have, or not as the case may be, have UK citizens been denied choice in which tickets they have been allocated - effectively a lottery on which tickets they will get for events they may even have no interest in whatsoever (in respect of which they will pay dearly for) when they actually live in the host Country and have paid - albeit indirectly through taxation - for the "privilege" of funding the event?
That is the tenor or my post.
Is it not also factual, as reported on French TV and France 24, that UK citizens would have faired better had they applied for tickets outside the UK?
Yes the IOC have allocated tickets to Libya, but you did not say that in your original post. Max77 pointed that out to you. You said:
but were you also aware that 200 prime time tickets have been allocated to Gadaffi's son Saif together with special visa's
The numbers of tickets available to citizens have been an issue for every nation who hosts a major sporting event. FIFA changed the ticketing policy after the shambolic blackmarket that developed at France '98. So is it a UK problem? Not really, as each time a host country sets up a system to be fair there are those that set out to abuse it, then other countries declare they could do better. Well if they could then they would have done it when they hosted a major sporting event, but in 98 France fucked up big style, as have other nations before and after. I doubt it will ever be solved to satisfy everybody, but I suspect that the games will be pretty ful though.
Dave_Notts
It's called education Dave. It may well be that was in my OP but, as in life, I moved on having kindly been given more and clearer information and as the thread developed (which you seemingly failed to read) we moved on to a slightly different aspect which you seem also to have chosen to ignore - that of the plight of the London Cabbie. The allocation of tickets to Saif was acknowledged by me as being incorrect, it was Gaddafi's other son Muhammad but the plain fact remains, tickets were allocated to the Libyan regime (by whoever it was). Whether or not they can make use of them is outside my sphere of influence as is the decision to accord them diplomatic facilities or not but it IS a fact that foreign dignitaries (including some otherwise rather "shady" world characters) will be accorded special visas - assuming they ask for them and given higher priority than the ordinary people of the host nation.
I couldn't care a flying fuck about the corrupt FIFA and France in the late 1990's. My posting was about the here and now and the gigantic phallus shagging the arse out of ordinary hard working English people who are being treated like second class (or even third class) citizens and who are being dumped on big time from a very great height.
So, stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
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It's called education Dave. It may well be that was in my OP but, as in life, I moved on having kindly been given more and clearer information and as the thread developed (which you seemingly failed to read) we moved on to a slightly different aspect which you seem also to have chosen to ignore - that of the plight of the London Cabbie. The allocation of tickets to Saif was acknowledged by me as being incorrect, it was Gaddafi's other son Muhammad but the plain fact remains, tickets were allocated to the Libyan regime (by whoever it was). Whether or not they can make use of them is outside my sphere of influence as is the decision to accord them diplomatic facilities or not but it IS a fact that foreign dignitaries (including some otherwise rather "shady" world characters) will be accorded special visas - assuming they ask for them and given higher priority than the ordinary people of the host nation.
I couldn't care a flying fuck about the corrupt FIFA and France in the late 1990's. My posting was about the here and now and the gigantic phallus shagging the arse out of ordinary hard working English people who are being treated like second class (or even third class) citizens and who are being dumped on big time from a very great height.
So, stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
I am glad you saw where you were wrong and to admitting to it.
The here and now is that the IOC give the tickets and the host nation does not have a say in it. It is irrelevant of where the games are held as they have the power to hand out the tickets to whoever they choose and not the host nation. However, the host nation can stop whoever they wish from entering their country.
So therefore it is nothing to do with British policy but IOC policy that you have a beef about.
As for the London Cabbie, apart from you saying that they will out of pocket I have heard nothing about that so can't comment on it. I'll have a look about though and see what I can dig up.
Did you say where you got the scaremongering story from or did I miss it?
Dave_Notts
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I am glad you saw where you were wrong and to admitting to it.
My pleasure! Always one to hold one's hands up when proved wrong as you know
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The here and now is that the IOC give the tickets and the host nation does not have a say in it. It is irrelevant of where the games are held as they have the power to hand out the tickets to whoever they choose and not the host nation. However, the host nation can stop whoever they wish from entering their country.
Not disputed.
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So therefore it is nothing to do with British policy but IOC policy that you have a beef about.
Not quite correct.
The "beef" I was articulating was to do with the distribution of the tickets to members of the public of the host nation, not the allocation by IOC - there is a subtle difference. Members of the public of the host nation were seemingly entered into a lottery in respect of ticket allocation - in many cases not getting tickets for events they actually want to see (swimming, for example) but for some totally unrelated sport (long jump perhaps). Moreover, their credit cards were being "bashed" in a totally uncontrolled fashion to the extent that many had to go cap in hand to their bank to avoid penalty charges etc as their accounts were "raided".
Now, whilst this was going on (but regrettably unknown to these poor unfortunates, it emerged later) if they had applied for tickets from an agency say, in France or elsewhere than the UK, they would have been allocated tickets of their choice (if still available) and not be foisted with ones they didn't want. The choice would remain with the applicant as to what to do, not the ticket vendor - whoever it was that was responsible for the UK debacle.
I hope that explanation makes it more clear to you.
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As for the London Cabbie, apart from you saying that they will out of pocket I have heard nothing about that so can't comment on it. I'll have a look about though and see what I can dig up.
It is to do with the "ring of steel" security around the Games. Many parts of London will be totally inaccessible to London Cabbies (and others of course) to go about making their decent, honest living. With the number of people from all over the world visiting London for the Games - many of them families - and not everyone wanting to use other forms of public transport for all sorts of reasons but looking for the special knowledge that London Cabbies are renown the world over for, they will denied that privilege and the London Cabbie will miss out on a splendid opportunity to showcase the capital and earn from their undoubted investment.
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Did you say where you got the scaremongering story from or did I miss it?
I now can't recall but, being as it is date stamped Wednesday, it was likely Jon Gaunt's newspaper review with Eamonn Holmes on SkyNews Sunrise. It was hardly "scaremongering" stuff.
That label appears to have been applied by people who didn't understand my posting :wink:
Cheers for clearing that up G.
The allocation does seem wrong when looking at what you wrote. I don't know how they allocated the tickets as I didn't buy or want to buy any. However, if the rules were spelt out and people knew this, then why did they apply for something they didn't want. Then to add on top of that, they ordered far in excess of what they could afford in the hope that that they got one ticket but ended up with ten :dunno:. This reminds me of the banking debacle where members have been calling them stupid and greedy for spending what they haven't got. In this case then, it is not the organisation but the individual who has been stupid and greedy, trying to buy more tickets than they could afford.
The poor London Cabbie has full access every day before the Olympics and every day after. For two weeks security will be raised and they will have restricted access. So they are crying over two weeks? The organisation needs to look at the majority so buses or trains will take priority, that seems sensible to me as you can fit more on a bus. If they want a guided tour then go on one of those with a tour guide on it. There you go, sorted.
I understood the post fully, and by leaving out some of the important bits that were filled in later then it can be construed as trying to scare people about something that was not really there. That labels it as sacremongering in my book. As it was Gauntys tabloid where the info came from then I can see why he left that info out, as he likes to rattle peoples cages, and people do his bidding and bite.
Dave_Notts
The allocation does seem wrong when looking at what you wrote. I don't know how they allocated the tickets as I didn't buy or want to buy any. However, if the rules were spelt out and people knew this, then why did they apply for something they didn't want
. Then to add on top of that, they ordered far in excess of what they could afford in the hope that that they got one ticket but ended up with ten :dunno:. This reminds me of the banking debacle where members have been calling them stupid and greedy for spending what they haven't got. In this case then, it is not the organisation but the individual who has been stupid and greedy, trying to buy more tickets than they could afford.The poor London Cabbie has full access every day before the Olympics and every day after. For two weeks security will be raised and they will have restricted access. So they are crying over two weeks? The organisation needs to look at the majority so buses or trains will take priority, that seems sensible to me as you can fit more on a bus. If they want a guided tour then go on one of those with a tour guide on it. There you go, sorted.
I understood the post fully, and by leaving out some of the important bits that were filled in later then it can be construed as trying to scare people about something that was not really there. That labels it as sacremongering in my book. As it was Gauntys tabloid where the info came from then I can see why he left that info out, as he likes to rattle peoples cages, and people do his bidding and bite.
Dave_Notts
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The allocation does seem wrong when looking at what you wrote. I don't know how they allocated the tickets as I didn't buy or want to buy any. However, if the rules were spelt out and people knew this, then why did they apply for something they didn't want
As I understand it, this was not the case. People applied for swimming and got long jump (or whatever) and the rules of engagement forced this issue on them. They were unwilling participants in what can only be described as a lottery when elsewhere, if they had but known it, they could have selected and paid for only those tickets they required.
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The poor London Cabbie has full access every day before the Olympics and every day after. For two weeks security will be raised and they will have restricted access. So they are crying over two weeks? The organisation needs to look at the majority so buses or trains will take priority, that seems sensible to me as you can fit more on a bus. If they want a guided tour then go on one of those with a tour guide on it. There you go, sorted.
Hardly
But can you not see, in those two weeks the largest number of foreign visitors as well as British to visit the Capital for decades needing to go from one location to another will be denied the expertise of the good old London Cabbie. Not much point in them looking for a share of the fares to visit the Olympics after everyone has gone home, is there?
If they want a guided tour, get a bus by all means. However, the chit-chat of the London Cabbie and his freely given expertise on everything in life and beyond is the draw for most pundits and I would guess a family of 5 would travel more cheaply by taxi than on the tube or a London Route Master bus which raises another point. If taxis are forbidden because of concerns over security, have the security advisers already forgotten that the 7/7 atrocities in London were carried out on the Tube and buses?
Coincidently, I heard on SkyNews today that they are releasing another tranche of tickets to the Great unsuspecting British Public (I think mainly football ones). The interesting bit is that they are actually calling it a "lottery".
I wonder if tickets to the opening ceremony will be available at a sensible price from Muhammad al-Gaddafi? Could be a little money spinner there...
Oh, sorry, you're not supposed to sell them on are you. Can't defeat the sales (lottery) cartel running in the UK now, can we :lol2:
I can see that the cabbies are not being given free access, but what I said is that it seems sensible for a piece of transport that can carry 40+ people is better than a vehicle that carries 4. It sounds blunt but thats how I see it. As for their expertise in talking, so what. The games need to move lots of people in the shortest amount of time. Cabbies are not as good as the tube or bus.
If people want to listen to a cabbie then come before or after the event.
Dave_Notts
If people want to listen to a cabbie then come before or after the event.
Dave_Notts
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5 not 4 in a Licensed Black Cab. I did tell you
:doh: I knew that as well. I honestly don't know why I typed 4
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I agree, 40+ people in one terrorist attack is far more newsworthy than 6 (including the driver) in a black cab.
Less vehicles :roll:. Security wise, the number of people to move is the same, the number of vehicles moving about can either be vehicles carrying 5 or 40+. Simple maths show that you need far less vehicles with buses
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Try telling a London Cabbie that his talking skills are crap and see how far it gets you :grin:
I tell cabbies all the time they are talking bollox, but in a polite way in court
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Less vehicles
... and they make a much better target for your average everyday innumerate suicide bomber.
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I tell cabbies all the time they are talking bollox, but in a polite way in court
But not London Cabbies for sure... you're still here to tell the tale and your innards are not adorning the Mall with your head on a spike outside the Tower of London
Cruel and unforgiving lot, London Cabbies.
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I can see that the cabbies are not being given free access, but what I said is that it seems sensible for a piece of transport that can carry 40+ people is better than a vehicle that carries 4. It sounds blunt but thats how I see it. As for their expertise in talking, so what. The games need to move lots of people in the shortest amount of time. Cabbies are not as good as the tube or bus.
If people want to listen to a cabbie then come before or after the event.
Dave_Notts
from my experiance london transport cannot cope with the passengers it curently takes, how is it then supposed to cope with thousands more?
dave have you travelled on the tube or bus lately at between 7 and ten in the morning or between 5 and 8 in the evening? of course if you travel by car everywhere then my question will not be relevent but at those peak times the system can just about cope. being london it will be a nightmare getting to and from the games.
then add the fact that cabs cannot get close then that will force even more peeple onto london transport. i am glad i am not going.
thousands and thousands of peeple will be converging onto the olympic site from all over the country from every angle, and you reely think that it will cope ok?
Sex God
sorry i thought the last post wins thread was in the Cafe 
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I think it will cope better with large vehicles rather than small ones.
Dave_Notts
not reely an answer dave
obviously do not use london transport on a regular basis.
'Ees from oop norf of Watford Gap star. When he talks of cabbies talking bollox in court, it be 'osses bollox 'ee be on a baht and the cabbies are 'Anson oss drawn wuns.
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Less vehicles
... and they make a much better target for your average everyday innumerate suicide bomber.
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I tell cabbies all the time they are talking bollox, but in a polite way in court
But not London Cabbies for sure... you're still here to tell the tale and your innards are not adorning the Mall with your head on a spike outside the Tower of London
Cruel and unforgiving lot, London Cabbies.
They do make better targets G..........however if we all thought that we should run scared about everything then we would be paralysed as a country. Going off what you are saying, then we should have row boats across the channel and be bringing back the Sopwith Camel.
Cabbies are the same the country over G. I deal with them every day and still here.
Dave_Notts
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I think it will cope better with large vehicles rather than small ones.
Dave_Notts
not reely an answer dave
obviously do not use london transport on a regular basis.
Not really an answer, ok I'll put it into a simpler way then.
You have 50,000 people to move.
For this you will need 10,000 black cabs or 625 buses.
I hope that makes it simpler for you and you can now see that it is an answer
Dave_Notts
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I think it will cope better with large vehicles rather than small ones.
Dave_Notts
not reely an answer dave
obviously do not use london transport on a regular basis.
Not really an answer, ok I'll put it into a simpler way then.
You have 50,000 people to move.
For this you will need 10,000 black cabs or 625 buses.
I hope that makes it simpler for you and you can now see that it is an answer
Dave_Notts
sorry dave you obviously have no knowledge of how the london transport system works, as has been said you are not from down here. LT use the maximum amount of trains and buses at peak times, so on that basis how are they going to move an extra as an example?
are they going to buy more trains? are they going to use more buses? where do the staff appeer from to operate these, if they even had them?
you theory works IF they have those extra trains and buses but they do not, so i shall ask again. how is the system going to cope and made even worse with the black cab rules?
you can only move huge amounts of extra peeple if you actually have that infrastructure in place. they do not it is a shambles on most rush hour mornings and evenings as it is. you reely should try it for yourself.
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They do make better targets G..........however if we all thought that we should run scared about everything then we would be paralysed as a country. Going off what you are saying, then we should have row boats across the channel and be bringing back the Sopwith Camel.
Cabbies are the same the country over G. I deal with them every day and still here.
Dave_Notts
The Sopwith Camel was a fantastic British WW1 single seater bi-plane. Why would we be bringing it back from across the channel
Actually, I just noticed the picture shows a Sopwith in French colours :lol2:
Can we have our plane back please?
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They do make better targets G..........however if we all thought that we should run scared about everything then we would be paralysed as a country. Going off what you are saying, then we should have row boats across the channel and be bringing back the Sopwith Camel.
Cabbies are the same the country over G. I deal with them every day and still here.
Dave_Notts
The Sopwith Camel was a fantastic British WW1 single seater bi-plane. Why would we be bringing it back from across the channel
Actually, I just noticed the picture shows a Sopwith in French colours :lol2:
Can we have our plane back please?
French colours on a British plane. Yep they needed decent kit.
Dave_Notts
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sorry dave you obviously have no knowledge of how the london transport system works, as has been said you are not from down here. LT use the maximum amount of trains and buses at peak times, so on that basis how are they going to move an extra as an example?
are they going to buy more trains? are they going to use more buses? where do the staff appeer from to operate these, if they even had them?
you theory works IF they have those extra trains and buses but they do not, so i shall ask again. how is the system going to cope and made even worse with the black cab rules?
you can only move huge amounts of extra peeple if you actually have that infrastructure in place. they do not it is a shambles on most rush hour mornings and evenings as it is. you reely should try it for yourself.
I don't need to know how it works to see that putting in a 5 person carrying vehicle over a 77 person carrying vehicle is plain daft. The powers that be have also decided it is daft and have put in something else as they see it will work. You say they have not got any extra trains or buses, do you know that or just guessing?
The proof will be in 2012 whether it works or not. Nothing that is wrote on here will demonstrate otherwise.
Dave_Notts
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You say they have not got any extra trains or buses, do you know that or just guessing?
do not need to guess but i would say that the hundreds of thousands of peeple who use the overcrowded train and bus servise everyday, who face long delays and no chance of a seet and paying huge ammounts of money, would be somewhat pissed off if they found out there were more trains and buses but they were not being used,,,,,,, dont you think? can you just imagine the back lash? so i would think that no they do not have trains or buses just sitting there idle.
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The proof will be in 2012 whether it works or not. Nothing that is wrote on here will demonstrate otherwise.
that is very true so why bother any of us having any opinions about anything
Sex God
I have to admit my feeling is sort of - what does anyone expect when they put a major public event, spanning 2 weeks, in one of the largest and (already) most congested cities in the country.
I know it is called the 'London' Olympics, but wouldn't it be far more sensible to have the 'UK Olympics' and spread the events around the country. It's not like people involved with, say, sailing give a hoot whether they are 5 or 50 miles from the people doing the horse-jumping. And sporting facilities, hotels, restaurants and infrastructure are not exactly unknown outside the M25. It would have given a boost to any number of cities and regions without overloading one single city.
on, I'm pretty sure the sailing isn't up and down the Thames, but you get my drift.
I know it is called the 'London' Olympics, but wouldn't it be far more sensible to have the 'UK Olympics' and spread the events around the country. It's not like people involved with, say, sailing give a hoot whether they are 5 or 50 miles from the people doing the horse-jumping. And sporting facilities, hotels, restaurants and infrastructure are not exactly unknown outside the M25. It would have given a boost to any number of cities and regions without overloading one single city.
on, I'm pretty sure the sailing isn't up and down the Thames, but you get my drift.
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You say they have not got any extra trains or buses, do you know that or just guessing?
do not need to guess but i would say that the hundreds of thousands of peeple who use the overcrowded train and bus servise everyday, who face long delays and no chance of a seet and paying huge ammounts of money, would be somewhat pissed off if they found out there were more trains and buses but they were not being used,,,,,,, dont you think? can you just imagine the back lash? so i would think that no they do not have trains or buses just sitting there idle.
Who said they are sitting idle now? The Games are on for two weeks, it would be pretty stupid to get the buses in now to sit there for the next year doing nothing.
I don't care over their backlash. Their choice of where to live not mine. My travel is free and easy without any delays, and guess what we banned private hire from our city centre. Perhaps the South needs to look to the North for some ideas.
Dave_Notts
Hope you don't mind my interjection but...
We are talking Quango here Dave. They don't care a flying fuck how much is costs when it's other people's money :lol2: I wouldn't be surprised if they are in a garage near you right now!
Too bloody right too. Damned nuisance these PH companies. Totally unregulated and staffed by ne'er-do-wells.
But what we were talking, of London, was black cabs. They are highly regulated, taxed to death and are the essence of the spirit of London. They are obliged to comply with the now very strict emission rules for London and I can't see for the life of me why they should not be allowed to join in and recover some of their investment from the Games, a significant opportunity for them which will not again be available in their lifetime.
Do you get served a cup of tea and biscuits on your free travel as well? Does the taxman know about your "perk"?
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Who said they are sitting idle now? The Games are on for two weeks, it would be pretty stupid to get the buses in now to sit there for the next year doing nothing.
We are talking Quango here Dave. They don't care a flying fuck how much is costs when it's other people's money :lol2: I wouldn't be surprised if they are in a garage near you right now!
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I don't care over their backlash. Their choice of where to live not mine. My travel is free and easy without any delays, and guess what we banned private hire from our city centre. Perhaps the South needs to look to the North for some ideas.
Too bloody right too. Damned nuisance these PH companies. Totally unregulated and staffed by ne'er-do-wells.
But what we were talking, of London, was black cabs. They are highly regulated, taxed to death and are the essence of the spirit of London. They are obliged to comply with the now very strict emission rules for London and I can't see for the life of me why they should not be allowed to join in and recover some of their investment from the Games, a significant opportunity for them which will not again be available in their lifetime.
Do you get served a cup of tea and biscuits on your free travel as well? Does the taxman know about your "perk"?
