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Quote by starlightcouple
I guess you'll be sending your usual apology about references to pensioners by PM sometime later star, as you usually do lol

There was me thinking, of which I am sure,something about you bad mouthing someone about sending a pm . Oh yes it was you that bad mouthed me for saying I sent a pm to Rob.
Not a single pm to you GnV as sorry I have little to say to you on the open forum, so why I would send you a private message I really cannot think. Ask ya mate?
So, what are you saying star?
That I am lying about you sending me a pm?
You'll be suggesting that someone has hacked your mailbox next :lol2:
Quote by GnV
I guess you'll be sending your usual apology about references to pensioners by PM sometime later star, as you usually do lol

There was me thinking, of which I am sure,something about you bad mouthing someone about sending a pm . Oh yes it was you that bad mouthed me for saying I sent a pm to Rob.
Not a single pm to you GnV as sorry I have little to say to you on the open forum, so why I would send you a private message I really cannot think. Ask ya mate?
So, what are you saying star?
That I am lying about you sending me a pm?
You'll be suggesting that someone has hacked your mailbox next :lol2:
Have you never sent me a pm then?
Quote by starlightcouple
I guess you'll be sending your usual apology about references to pensioners by PM sometime later star, as you usually do lol

There was me thinking, of which I am sure,something about you bad mouthing someone about sending a pm . Oh yes it was you that bad mouthed me for saying I sent a pm to Rob.
Not a single pm to you GnV as sorry I have little to say to you on the open forum, so why I would send you a private message I really cannot think. Ask ya mate?
So, what are you saying star?
That I am lying about you sending me a pm?
You'll be suggesting that someone has hacked your mailbox next :lol2:
Have you never sent me a pm then?
With your express permission to disclose then. Of course I have star, usually in response to yours.
Quote by in another thread a few moments ago, star
and yet a pensioner living abroad gets a fucking winter fuel payment.

So how does that sit with your comment in this thread that I am a nasty rude person star?
Double standards, yet again rolleyes
I'll leave you to find the pot kettle black image you usually use in these circumstances :grin:
Quote by nellie-mwgc

So basically star, you haven't got a fucking clue what you are talking about, have you.

You really are a nasty rude man. I was always taught to respect my elders, but certainly not in your case.
No wonder the youngsters of today have zero respect for our pensioners.rolleyes
I agree :thumbup:
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I want a 'no idea' option as I would never spend any of my precious time to listen to a lying thieving bastard like Osborn and I haven't caught any discussions about my specific circumstances.
I'd also like GNV and Starlight to stop bickering. It disrupts the thread for those who want to discuss the original subject and it's childish and unpleasant to have to scroll through to get to the next sensible post.
Quote by foxylady2209
I want a 'no idea' option as I would never spend any of my precious time to listen to a lying thieving bastard like Osborn and I haven't caught any discussions about my specific circumstances.
I'd also like GNV and Starlight to stop bickering. It disrupts the thread for those who want to discuss the original subject and it's childish and unpleasant to have to scroll through to get to the next sensible post.

We actually like each other really foxy passionkiss
He's only been able to develop his adversarial style since he started sparring with me so perhaps it's only me to blame.
His most annoying trait though is his inability to spell - but with all credit, it has improved greatly over time.
Quote by GnV
I want a 'no idea' option as I would never spend any of my precious time to listen to a lying thieving bastard like Osborn and I haven't caught any discussions about my specific circumstances.
I'd also like GNV and Starlight to stop bickering. It disrupts the thread for those who want to discuss the original subject and it's childish and unpleasant to have to scroll through to get to the next sensible post.

We actually like each other really foxy passionkiss
He's only been able to develop his adversarial style since he started sparring with me so perhaps it's only me to blame.
His most annoying trait though is his inability to spell - but with all credit, it has improved greatly over time.
It reads as hateful argument.
Quote by GnV
We actually like each other really foxy passionkiss

Really? Now how did you come to that mad conclusion? :rascal:sillyhwoar:
Quote by starlightcouple

We actually like each other really foxy passionkiss

Really? Now how did you come to that mad conclusion? :rascal:sillyhwoar:
It was the way you kissed me after I squeezed your nuts wot did it :rascal:
Quote by GnV

We actually like each other really foxy passionkiss

Really? Now how did you come to that mad conclusion? :rascal:sillyhwoar:
It was the way you kissed me after I squeezed your nuts wot did it :rascal:
Sometimes I think you are such a knob, but actually that was so flipping funny. You really are a bit of a nutter. loon:laughabove:
Quote by starlightcouple
You really are a bit of a nutter. loon:laughabove:

Which bit?
Quote by Trevaunance
You really are a bit of a nutter. loon:laughabove:

Which bit?
Actually most of it Trev lol
Quote by MidsCouple24
58 years old, and for the first time in my life I will not be voting for the Conservative party in the next election.
I guess that says it all for me dunno

Really ..... do yuo think there is someone else out there who is more deserving of your vote...r u going to vote for ed milliband .... i can't imagaine that you would?
Jack
Interesting that 48 hours after the thread was started by Trev ...only 9 people have chosen to take part in their online survey ...
....ONLY 9...
It's not really a suprise, the lethargy in the forums is a constant.
I am sure there is a witty reposte to make here ..... but I can't be bothered! lol
Quote by Green_Fox_71
I am sure there is a witty reposte to make here ..... but I can't be bothered! lol

Well you're a new member..............make the witty reposte. The worst you can do is upset a few numpties on here. :lol:
For me every new member to these forums is frankly a bloody blessing.
no matter what the budget sets out to do it often turns out to be different.
the housing scheme is already being picked apart and im sure the 3p rise in fuel duty which was scrapped will be added on by the fuel companies anyway.
building power stations to meet the uk's demand is all well and good but edf want to double the price it can charge for the electricity or they will turn around and just not build all them planned jobs wont happen and we will get power from the french like we do at the moment.
banks wont lend to help start up new businesses. even though the money has been made available for them to do this.
i had to borrow money from a friend after a i was turned down. i repayed him in 6 months with interest. so i moved all my banking from the banks which turned me down and also sent letters to my MP proving the banks were not assisting in trying to turn the economy around.
a cut in vat would have helped and also the cut in corperation tax is another thing which may help in attracting business but on the other side of the coin employers are not willing to pay what is reasonable in today climate with ever increasing standards of living, so they still maybe put off doing business here.
in all i do not think the budget will change much for they you can never tell what is around the corner.
It is a very well thought out stratedgy
1p off a pint, if you drink 10 pints a day that will save you 70p a week on your alcohol bill, a big reason to head back to the pubs and stop buying your beer from the supermarket and drinking at home, of course if you do drink 10 pints a day your not going to be around too long to reap the benefit.
Pub Landlords interviewed after the event did say they wouldn't be passing on the discount because they were already struggling to make a profit with recent price rises they face in all aspects of running the pub. Still if they sell a thousand pints a week they at least will benefit to the tune of £10 a week, perhaps not enough to save them from closing though.
Me I would have lowered or removed the VAT on products made in Britain to boost production in UK factories, if other countries object I have a finger to show them, I am sure they would resist refusing to deal with the UK, resist the temptation to stop selling us cars ad other products.
The loss of VAT income would be compensated by the increased tax revenues from greater sales of UK made products and a decrease in unemployment.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Me I would have lowered or removed the VAT on products made in Britain to boost production in UK factories, if other countries object I have a finger to show them, I am sure they would resist refusing to deal with the UK, resist the temptation to stop selling us cars ad other products.
The loss of VAT income would be compensated by the increased tax revenues from greater sales of UK made products and a decrease in unemployment.

I'm not sure whether it would be legal, but it certainly makes some sense on paper.
legal, I don't know these days but the Germans did it many years ago, Mervestoiyer (has to be spelt wrong) the German VAT did not have to be paid on German made products, it didnt matter who owned the Company providing the jobs and factories were in Germany (toyota Derby here in the UK qualify for example)
Buy a Mercedes, VW, BMW etc and there was no VAT to be paid, this made their home products more financially competative against their imported rivals, a £25,000 car would be £5000 cheaper on the forecourt making Mercedes more competative against the Jaguar imported from the UK.
It would also encourage companies to locate european manufacturing here in Britain instead of say, in France. Japanese electronic companies could be swayed here instead of other places in Europe.
Setting our own rules on VAT cannot be any different from subsidising farming or other industries, or paying lower salaries as happens when we compete with the Koreans or India, it's just a local discount not an increase to other Countries.
Thats a fair example, but as I said I'm not sure it's legal. There are far better business minds than mine on this forum, one of them will probably be able to shed light onto the matter.
I just get the feeling that it would break some trade agreement or be against a competition law somewhere.
Quote by Trevaunance
Thats a fair example, but as I said I'm not sure it's legal. There are far better business minds than mine on this forum, one of them will probably be able to shed light onto the matter.
I just get the feeling that it would break some trade agreement or be against a competition law somewhere.

Whilst the rules regarding VAT are enshrined in EU law, National Governments are responsible for setting tax rates.
There are anti-competition laws throughout Europe of course but as VAT is a sovereign issue, it would take precedence over those so far as I can see.
YIPPEE vote Jed for Prime Minister lol :bs: