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Minx for the last time, what exact part of South East London do you live in? Of course I know exactly what borough it is but for obvious reasons do not want to be the one to mention it on here. I cannot see your problem to be honest, unless by naming it and people doing a little research they would very easily see, it is a run down part of London that needs a serious lick of paint, and has huge troubles as the riots proved.
You painted this wonderland of an area where you live, and yet the opposite is true Minx, and that is why you won't say where it is.
Don't know where the problem is, you should try living on Thamesmead.
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snipped.... You painted this wonderland of an area where you live, and yet the opposite is true Minx

I didn't get that sense of feeling from minx's post star.
Perhaps you read something into it I couldn't dunno
What I got from minx's posts about her area of London was that the people in her community were engaging and not as worrying to her as some people might like to imagine.
Given the time she has spent in the community, I can understand that but for someone with my gentile and sheltered background over most of my adult life and unused to such intense living, I would find it quite disturbing and threatening.
Minx will give her own reasons I'm sure but that is how I see it.
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Minx for the last time, what exact part of South East London do you live in? Of course I know exactly what borough it is but for obvious reasons do not want to be the one to mention it on here. I cannot see your problem to be honest, unless by naming it and people doing a little research they would very easily see, it is a run down part of London that needs a serious lick of paint, and has huge troubles as the riots proved.
You painted this wonderland of an area where you live, and yet the opposite is true Minx, and that is why you won't say where it is.
Don't know where the problem is, you should try living on Thamesmead.

I`d hazard a guess that the problem is that some bloke is trying to pinpoint where a woman lives using a swinging forum. Not very encouraging for all those people who are thinking about joining.
Pinpoint? If I said I lived in Camberwell or Peckham, how is that pinpointing where I live? It is a borough in London,not a street name.
And as if you really care about who joins this site or not. Just using the wooden spoon for an effect. :sleeping: Very tiresome.
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Minx for the last time, what exact part of South East London do you live in?

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I`d hazard a guess that the problem is that some bloke is trying to pinpoint where a woman lives

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Pinpoint? If I said I lived in Camberwell or Peckham, how is that pinpointing where I live?

Flower was referring to you demanding to know where minx lives....
The quote confirms that is what you did.
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snipped.... You painted this wonderland of an area where you live, and yet the opposite is true Minx

I didn't get that sense of feeling from minx's post star.
Perhaps you read something into it I couldn't dunno
What I got from minx's posts about her area of London was that the people in her community were engaging and not as worrying to her as some people might like to imagine.
Given the time she has spent in the community, I can understand that but for someone with my gentile and sheltered background over most of my adult life and unused to such intense living, I would find it quite disturbing and threatening.
Minx will give her own reasons I'm sure but that is how I see it.
Minx did indeed paint a much rosier picture GnV, and I cannot help it if you failed to spot that one. That is why I have tried ( without success ) to get Minx to name the BOROUGH and obviously not her street name, so people can indeed make their own minds up if it is that wonderful South London Inner city.
You have to remember GnV that I know South London very well, I have lived it for 50 years. I know Minx's area very well and the surrounding areas. Riddled with crime, gang and gun culture and was heavily involved in the London riots. Maybe people should look at the report into why those riots took place, and then see that these areas that Minx has mentioned are certainly not wonderful places to live, or to walk the streets on of an evening. It is annoying as I cannot mention any of these areas in particular,for fear of giving away her BOROUGH. I have said I live on Thamesmead, how anyone is going to pinpoint me from that information I just simply cannot guess. Maybe by giving away your BOROUGH someone has a secret sat nav system, that can pick up your exact address.blink
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Minx for the last time, what exact part of South East London do you live in?

Quote by flower
I`d hazard a guess that the problem is that some bloke is trying to pinpoint where a woman lives

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Pinpoint? If I said I lived in Camberwell or Peckham, how is that pinpointing where I live?

Flower was referring to you demanding to know where minx lives....
The quote confirms that is what you did.
People only have to look at how you have deliberately misinterpreted what I asked Minx for, to understand why people just do not bother posting on these forums.
I am suprised in you GnV to be really honest, as I though you was much better than that.
Ok is this a bit better for you and Flower.....Minx what exact BOROUGH do you live in? Hows that? rolleyes
Your definitely an ex politician GnV. lol
"what exact part of South East London do you live in?"
How that possibly can be misinterpreted as meaning anything else other than "what exact part of East London do you live in?
Exact - adj: not approximated in any way; correct in every detail; strictly accurate
C'mon star, admit you fucked up rather than using the scatter gun approach to blame everyone else rolleyes
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"what exact part of South East London do you live in?"
How that possibly can be misinterpreted as meaning anything else other than "what exact part of East London do you live in?
C'mon star, admit you fucked up rather than using the scatter gun approach to game everyone else rolleyes

I will obviously have to triple check everything I write in future GnV, and I would suggest you do the same thing. I never 'fucked up' anything. Your just being pedantic in your approach as not once did I ask the street name, or are you saying that I did?
I think you knew exactly what I was asking for, your just a bit bored and I can understand that one. :bounce:
Ok then if that was misinterpreted by Minx as me actually asking for her street name and door number, I have already now made it perfectly clear so as even you cannot now be confused, in that I have asked what is her BOROUGH. I shall await the answer.
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Your just being pedantic in your approach as not once did I ask the street name, or are you saying that I did?

No you didn't but you did ask for the exact part of East London she lives in, only now after being challenged have you modified that to ask for the Borough she lives in.
BTW, I checked everything you wrote in the quote above and I think you meant "you're" rather than "your" :lol2:
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Your just being pedantic in your approach as not once did I ask the street name, or are you saying that I did?

No you didn't but you did ask for the exact part of East London she lives in, only now after being challenged have you modified that to ask for the Borough she lives in.
BTW, I checked everything you wrote in the quote above and I think you meant "you're"rather than "your" :lol2:
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No sorry GnV I meant ' your '. You been in France too long. Anyway I should have obviously not used the ' exact ' word as people looked on that as being something else. I have now asked for the information a bit more clearer so as to help GnV.
Personally I think the person I was asking understood what I was asking, and if that person did not then they do now, and should have now no problem answering the question, as by naming the BOROUGH of where you live is in no way whatsoever giving away any details of your EXACT address. See I used the word exact GnV in the proper way in the sentence. wink
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No sorry GnV I meant ' your '. You been in France too long.

'You're' is an abbreviation for 'you are' as in "You are being....."
"Your being" means something else entirely.
Did you go to school but slept your way through most of it or found it too challenging?
My guess is that more than a few non-native English speakers even get that one right!
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Did you go to school but slept your way through most of it or found it too challenging?

That shows nothing more than you have had your feathers ruffled and you don't like it.
Thought you was better than that, and obviously you're not !!!! Nicked a few exclamation marks as well for you.:kissmyarse: :giggle:
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That shows nothing more than you have had your feathers ruffled and you don't like it.

dunno
Oh, and as an aside.
Overly frequent use of the exclamation mark is generally considered poor writing, for it distracts the reader and devalues the mark's significance.
:lol2:
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snipped.... You painted this wonderland of an area where you live, and yet the opposite is true Minx

I didn't get that sense of feeling from minx's post star.
Perhaps you read something into it I couldn't dunno
What I got from minx's posts about her area of London was that the people in her community were engaging and not as worrying to her as some people might like to imagine.
Given the time she has spent in the community, I can understand that but for someone with my gentile and sheltered background over most of my adult life and unused to such intense living, I would find it quite disturbing and threatening.
Minx will give her own reasons I'm sure but that is how I see it.
Hi GNV you seem a sensible person, so I will explain to you. Although it Star seems hell bent making it a gang thread, which wasn't my intention. I was simply saying in the beginning to use immigration as the only reason to opt out of Europe was wrong.
You can't lump everyone together under one heading, there are migrate workers, Refugees and others, that just see here as a better way of life and try and sneak in.
Let’s not mix the true meaning of what a refugee is either, which the media seem to do and mixing them all in the pot together. I know of some and I have to write references to immigration for.
Star like the media would lead you to believe that many don’t integrate into our society and want to take all our houses and sponge of the state. That simply isn’t true, many I know do work, pay their bills and taxes.
I have also known many here on student visa’s a lot of which have gone back home now. Believe me the state never covered their costs, many families abroad clump together to educate their children and pay the lodging fees.
I can’t say to much as I am heavily involved with something in my personal life in a voluntary capacity that caters for various people from all backgrounds and cultures from 6 years to retired older folk and run youth development programs within that. Where young and old from English to many other nationality that come together and support each other there around 500 of us 40 of which run it voluntary in what we provide. We all work too as none of us get paid for what we do.
What star is saying is true I leave work and involved and have been involved in areas that have has many problems but a place where I wanted my children bought up to see for themselves what it is like and work out how bad it really is and to understand and see the causes themselves like I have done over 48 years.
When I was young I lived in a rough area I knew children that others would fear I knew adults that had guns and did bank jobs etc. I knew kids that smoked had sex at young ages. My school even set up a classroom for girls and their babies back in the 1970’s
I failed school as it was hard. I was bullied because I wouldn’t conform. I learnt then at 12 I could fear or learn my lessons of life from them.
I have friends going back 30 odd years that could be on a much different path if they never found anyone to trust and showed compassion. This isn’t just a problem in my area, I knew I could have moved and found it anywhere.
The levels around me are just higher but the higher the levels I felt the more we can understand. What these children felt was a detachment. School never provided that as children do not understand the concept of why and what we are teaching them the world has become to complex for them to understand and feel part of. Today I see myself facing the same problems around me. I have spoken to children that allege they are in gangs.
Years ago we used to say my dad is bigger than yours, many can’t say that now, so have reverted to my gang is bigger than yours. Many children at my children’s have said they are in gangs. When my children have started to talk to them and understand them as they have spend 5 years around them. They are not in gangs but feel safer saying they are.
As they get bigger they fear less and understand what education was trying to teach them, by then it is to late for many they have spend to much time trying to see how and where they fit in and not fear and not actually understanding the concept of what and why we are teaching them. We cram to much into them from Romans, Tudors, science, maths, computers, etc etc from as young as 5 and expect them all to work it out for themselves. Those it seems that know they fit into life at home or have self motivation pull through better than the rest.
If we don’t make them feel part of and belonging to something they feel they have nothing to protect them. Now days I see some children who’s parents both work opting to say they are in gangs as they fear going home to an empty house, many of which walk themselves to school from as young as 8.
Children understand from a young age we can’t survive in life alone. We need others to survive we are after all group pack animals. All they are doing is attaching themselves to packs. If they have a family detachment many are feeling the gang is the next best option. Safety in numbers and all that.
I know children who have carried knives not to use but feel safer with it. Much of the time, the children are driving the fear without even knowing it. When I have asked many how many times about the streets walking home from school etc. have they been stopped many say they have been asked what they are doing in this area etc. The said they have been scared when it has happened. I have then asked if during the stop has anyone hurt them? No is the answer so I have explain rational fear and irrational fear. Most have said to me when I have explained that I am right. These are teenagers mostly I speak to.
We need to start to question what do they fear rather than fearing them, these are kids that just want to belong somewhere. We also need to question what are we really teaching them at school.
Over my life I have put my philosophy to other adults that had different views also to see immigrates in much the same light. There is a basic humanity link. Human nature prevails we all want to feel safe, accepted and part of something to thrive. Fear is the driving factor.
Star can carry on blaming immigrants, gangs, lack of housing, jobs for all our problems.
Then I would want to know why this doesn’t just happen in the area I live but country wide.
I have a friend in Lincs in a nice little white beach community mostly retired people yet her son was on drugs fought with other local youth. One night one of his friends knocked on her door for help he had been stabbed. Luckily I only know of two lads that have been stabbed personally and know hundreds more that have lived in this area all their lives many are now adults and haven’t.
Like the media star would have you believe in irrational fear I like to work on rational fear myself and teach this to those that know me. They all then work it out themselves as many only know personally those that have been stabbed it has turned out got themselves involved with the wrong people and the two I knew have since changed they lives into another direction and one has a very promising future. Being part of making this happen gives me belief to carry on.
I shall let others carry on blaming everyone else as franking I have many more rewarding things and get on with my work to pay my tax to support those that have nothing better to do.
I have no interest in those that want to be proud of owning a 52in TV.
I would like to hear from those that have a rational reason why we shouldn’t elect to stay in Eurpoe. As yet apart from immigrate which there are strong controls in place that I have to adhere to and report and keep records to prove and work within border control regulations. If these are not being adhered in other areas then that should be addressed and has no relevance in my opinion on the opportunity to vote to join Europe and blame immigrants for that happening.
So I base my opinion if to join on my own findings and what others see, not what politicians want to argue or newspapers want to report. As people on the ground can see far more what is happening than any of those can see.
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Minx for the last time, what exact part of South East London do you live in? Of course I know exactly what borough it is but for obvious reasons do not want to be the one to mention it on here. I cannot see your problem to be honest, unless by naming it and people doing a little research they would very easily see, it is a run down part of London that needs a serious lick of paint, and has huge troubles as the riots proved.
You painted this wonderland of an area where you live, and yet the opposite is true Minx, and that is why you won't say where it is.
Don't know where the problem is, you should try living on Thamesmead.

Star please be warned that you are showing demanding and bullish tatics and I have good reason to report you should you wish to carry on and let admin decide if the way you conduct yourself on the forums when no means no and revert to demands is a way to behave I believe this site adopts a no means no policy in other areas of the site and I would challenge those if not adopted in the forums.
I don't wish to tittle tattle but I do wish to converse with people that don't demand to tell everyone where I live as I have a family and others that rely on me. So choosing to be discrete on here is my choose to protect those I love and care for.
So do not demand anything else from me that I choose not to disclose.
Thanks
Minx
Thanks for your detailed response minx.
I really have led a sheltered life despite spending my formulative years in a city area in northern England.
Minxy, just want to thank you for an excellent series of posts. Too much to comment on really, except to say integration is a bit of a two-way street, as you demonstrate. We're not always very welcoming of immigrants, whether they're first generation or whatever. Some are actually fearful of them, not because of what they do or how they live, but simply because of what they are. They represent the 'other'. Easy to see how and why ghettoisation develops quite often given the attitudes of some 'indigenous' Brits, white flight, social / housing policies that encourage them to an extent, the safety in numbers thing, etc. And then we complain these people live in ghettos and don't integrate. No shit?
:thumbup:
Quote by Lizaleanrob
Cameron has promised a referendum on staying in the euro zone should he win another term
do you think this is a good or bad thing to leave Europe

It would be bad to stay in europe as it stands now, it’s becoming much more that the free trading promise from the original common market. Don’t know about you, but I feel my vote is worth much less now, and I’m not sure what I’m getting for it. I did agree with the free market but I don’t agree with all the red tape, in my view we just don’t need to be integrated to the level the Germans and French seem to think!
Its just one big mess, I would be in favour of scrapping the lot and starting again from fresh… And I for one feel we should have a referendum no matter what government are in power.
Politicians need to be reminded we are a democracy
Quote by Paul80
Cameron has promised a referendum on staying in the euro zone should he win another term
do you think this is a good or bad thing to leave Europe

It would be bad to stay in europe as it stands now, it’s becoming much more that the free trading promise from the original common market. Don’t know about you, but I feel my vote is worth much less now, and I’m not sure what I’m getting for it. I did agree with the free market but I don’t agree with all the red tape, in my view we just don’t need to be integrated to the level the Germans and French seem to think!
Its just one big mess, I would be in favour of scrapping the lot and starting again from fresh… And I for one feel we should have a referendum no matter what government are in power.
Politicians need to be reminded we are a democracy
I believe like you it is a mess at present I think it all needs starting again. I would like to believe it can work it is working out how it can. At present it all seems trail and error.
I believe like you in free market, I even believe in the freedom of migrant workers.
We are not at a stage yet where law, order, single currencies should be lead under one roof.
I believe they tried to do everything together and why is isn't working instead of the focus being one aspect of agreement and they slowly build up from there once that is accepted and working.
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I believe like you it is a mess at present I think it all needs starting again. I would like to believe it can work it is working out how it can. At present it all seems trail and error.
I believe like you in free market, I even believe in the freedom of migrant workers.
We are not at a stage yet where law, order, single currencies should be lead under one roof.
I believe they tried to do everything together and why is isn't working instead of the focus being one aspect of agreement and they slowly build up from there once that is accepted and working.

Spot on
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Star please be warned that you are showing demanding and bullish tatics and I have good reason to report you should you wish to carry on and let admin decide if the way you conduct yourself on the forums when no means no and revert to demands is a way to behave I believe this site adopts a no means no policy in other areas of the site and I would challenge those if not adopted in the forums.
I don't wish to tittle tattle but I do wish to converse with people that don't demand to tell everyone where I live as I have a family and others that rely on me. So choosing to be discrete on here is my choose to protect those I love and care for.
So do not demand anything else from me that I choose not to disclose.
Thanks
Minx

I am duly warned Minx, but I would hope that admin had seen exactly why I kept asking. Had you have said at the very beginning that you under no circumstances were you going to give any idea as to where you live not even the borough you live in, and for the life I me I cannot see why, I would have backed off then. Remember Minx I myself know exactly what borough you do live in, so it was not for my benefit.
As an aside in future if you or anyone else does not want to answer a question for any reason, then just say at the start, sorry but I am not prepared to answer that question. It would have saved a lot of finger typing. :notes:
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Star please be warned that you are showing demanding and bullish tatics and I have good reason to report you should you wish to carry on and let admin decide if the way you conduct yourself on the forums when no means no and revert to demands is a way to behave I believe this site adopts a no means no policy in other areas of the site and I would challenge those if not adopted in the forums.
I don't wish to tittle tattle but I do wish to converse with people that don't demand to tell everyone where I live as I have a family and others that rely on me. So choosing to be discrete on here is my choose to protect those I love and care for.
So do not demand anything else from me that I choose not to disclose.
Thanks
Minx

I am duly warned Minx, but I would hope that admin had seen exactly why I kept asking. Had you have said at the very beginning that you under no circumstances were you going to give any idea as to where you live not even the borough you live in, and for the life I me I cannot see why, I would have backed off then. Remember Minx I myself know exactly what borough you do live in, so it was not for my benefit.
As an aside in future if you or anyone else does not want to answer a question for any reason, then just say at the start, sorry but I am not prepared to answer that question. It would have saved a lot of finger typing. :notes:
And you think that you can excuse all of your bullying in here with that ?
I hope she does complain
rolleyes
Why don't you do it for her? If you want to call it bullying that is your prerogative to think that. You are as Max stated a stirrer. If Minx herself feels the need to complain then so be it, I have done nothing wrong in asking a member where they live when trying to prove my point.
I am now according to you a bully, as well as a racist and a bigot ! Anything else you want to add to that list while we are here? For a man you do get upset rather easily. I shall contact Minx right now in a pm, and advise her myself that if she feels I have been either bullying her or goading her in any way, to then report me to the relevant people on here. I would hope that whatever she does it is not based on your one sided, wooden spoon advice.
Now onto Minx. I am sure she will let you know it's contents.
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Star please be warned that you are showing demanding and bullish tatics and I have good reason to report you should you wish to carry on and let admin decide if the way you conduct yourself on the forums when no means no and revert to demands is a way to behave I believe this site adopts a no means no policy in other areas of the site and I would challenge those if not adopted in the forums.
I don't wish to tittle tattle but I do wish to converse with people that don't demand to tell everyone where I live as I have a family and others that rely on me. So choosing to be discrete on here is my choose to protect those I love and care for.
So do not demand anything else from me that I choose not to disclose.
Thanks
Minx

I am duly warned Minx, but I would hope that admin had seen exactly why I kept asking. Had you have said at the very beginning that you under no circumstances were you going to give any idea as to where you live not even the borough you live in, and for the life I me I cannot see why, I would have backed off then. Remember Minx I myself know exactly what borough you do live in, so it was not for my benefit.
As an aside in future if you or anyone else does not want to answer a question for any reason, then just say at the start, sorry but I am not prepared to answer that question. It would have saved a lot of finger typing. :notes:
And you think that you can excuse all of your bullying in here with that ?
I hope she does complain
rolleyes
Why don't you do it for her? If you want to call it bullying that is your prerogative to think that. You are as Max stated a stirrer. If Minx herself feels the need to complain then so be it, I have done nothing wrong in asking a member where they live when trying to prove my point.
I am now according to you a bully, as well as a racist and a bigot ! Anything else you want to add to that list while we are here? For a man you do get upset rather easily. I shall contact Minx right now in a pm, and advise her myself that if she feels I have been either bullying her or goading her in any way, to then report me to the relevant people on here. I would hope that whatever she does it is not based on your one sided, wooden spoon advice.
Now onto Minx. I am sure she will let you know it's contents.
I think you do forget sometimes Star that people do not want to divulge anything on a forum like this that might identify themselves. You pressed and pressed me to answer if I employed immigrants and although I don't, I think it is something that I don't have to answer - it is too personal. Demanding that someone reveals where they live even by region and then creepily telling them that you know anyway is just not on.
Just my opinion. Remember this is broadly an anonymous Internet forum and so we all need to respect each other boundaries in respect of how much information they want in the public domain.
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I think you do forget sometimes Star that people do not want to divulge anything on a forum like this that might identify themselves. You pressed and pressed me to answer if I employed immigrants and although I don't, I think it is something that I don't have to answer - it is too personal. Demanding that someone reveals where they live even by region and then creepily telling them that you know anyway is just not on.
Just my opinion. Remember this is broadly an anonymous Internet forum and so we all need to respect each other boundaries in respect of how much information they want in the public domain.

That is fair comment TH, but you only had to say I am not prepared to answer that question, as Minx was. I don't think asking any of those questions posed any particular issue with regards to privacy issues. I stated I live on Thamesmead, it is not a borough but a town and nobody on here would find me, even if they wanted too which is doubtful.
Sometimes star, some questions are best not asked in the first place.
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to know where minx lived except if they had unwelcome intentions.
Her 'exact' location brought nothing to the discussion and I doubt it would in any other for that matter.
Quote by Theladyisaminx
Cameron has promised a referendum on staying in the euro zone should he win another term
do you think this is a good or bad thing to leave Europe

It would be bad to stay in europe as it stands now, it’s becoming much more that the free trading promise from the original common market. Don’t know about you, but I feel my vote is worth much less now, and I’m not sure what I’m getting for it. I did agree with the free market but I don’t agree with all the red tape, in my view we just don’t need to be integrated to the level the Germans and French seem to think!
Its just one big mess, I would be in favour of scrapping the lot and starting again from fresh… And I for one feel we should have a referendum no matter what government are in power.
Politicians need to be reminded we are a democracy
I believe like you it is a mess at present I think it all needs starting again. I would like to believe it can work it is working out how it can. At present it all seems trail and error.
I believe like you in free market, I even believe in the freedom of migrant workers.
We are not at a stage yet where law, order, single currencies should be lead under one roof.
I believe they tried to do everything together and why is isn't working instead of the focus being one aspect of agreement and they slowly build up from there once that is accepted and working.
its the red tape that is really the problem, the uk should be reaping the benifits and not scorned upon by europe as a poor relation
we abide by far more of the rules and directives that brussels set out than any other european country, whilst others like france and germany blaitantly flaunt Eu directives and laws
all in all id agree with paul and minx scrap it and start again this time will a little more in our favour
i wouldn't mind knowing where minx lived
but only if she accommodates :rascal:
Quote by flower411
Star .... I called you a racist because I believe that you are a racist.
I called you a bigot because I believe you are a bigot .
I called you a bully because I believe you are are a bully.
You said you were going to take me to court for slander and I offered to pass all of my personal information to admin to facilitate your action.
Your demands for personal infomation about members of this forum has moved beyond thinking of you as a bit of a fool and is becoming frightening ...
I am aware that your complaint about me because of this post will result in a permanent ban ....but I don`t want to be involved in some future case where somebody asks me why I didn`t say anything .

Maybe I will not have to do anything at all, as I am sure that admin have noted your comments here. If they do nothing, then they will do to you what you have complained about others on here for yonks, in that people say anything and get away with it.
The amount of times you have complained about members on here seemingly let off with some conspiracy by the site owners against poor Flower. If as I think they do nothing about your above comments, then it would seem that you are not in that get Flower category after all. In fact you are in the same category as everyone else on here, and how amazing would that be? Nothing for you to moan about in future about members getting away with all sorts.
As an aside your above comments are just your opinion. No facts at all, just a opinion. You can have all the opinions in the world, but they don't add up to very much at all at the end of the day.
Quote by flower411
I am aware that your complaint about me because of this post will result in a permanent ban ....but I don`t want to be involved in some future case where somebody asks me why I didn`t say anything .

You underestimate me, and over estimate yourself. No complaint from me here at all with regards to your opinions.:thumbup:
Quote by starlightcouple

Star please be warned that you are showing demanding and bullish tatics and I have good reason to report you should you wish to carry on and let admin decide if the way you conduct yourself on the forums when no means no and revert to demands is a way to behave I believe this site adopts a no means no policy in other areas of the site and I would challenge those if not adopted in the forums.
I don't wish to tittle tattle but I do wish to converse with people that don't demand to tell everyone where I live as I have a family and others that rely on me. So choosing to be discrete on here is my choose to protect those I love and care for.
So do not demand anything else from me that I choose not to disclose.
Thanks
Minx

I am duly warned Minx, but I would hope that admin had seen exactly why I kept asking. Had you have said at the very beginning that you under no circumstances were you going to give any idea as to where you live not even the borough you live in, and for the life I me I cannot see why, I would have backed off then. Remember Minx I myself know exactly what borough you do live in, so it was not for my benefit.
As an aside in future if you or anyone else does not want to answer a question for any reason, then just say at the start, sorry but I am not prepared to answer that question. It would have saved a lot of finger typing. :notes:
Star,
I put my opinion on a forum, for people to read and make their own opinions.
I don’t expect or accept that everything that I write or others write needs to pass your criticisms, scrutiny, questions and acceptability tests.
I don’t expect or accept that you have a right, to make comments on public forum about my personal life. Telling me that I must be embarrassed about where I live or how I live my life for everyone to see.
I don’t expect or accept that you have a right to demand your questions about me to be answered.
I don’t expect or accept someone should demand of me here to disclose more information about where I live other than what I choose to share with everyone.
I don’t expect or accept that if you know information about me that gives you the right to tell everyone on the forums.
Star you have tried to discredit all that I have said I have responded in my earlier post why I said what I have and how and where I got the information based on my own personal life. You have totally ignore that post.
Yet you have made demands, called me a loon, you might as well even called me a liar.
Then you say “I am duly warned Minx, but I would hope that admin had seen exactly why I kept asking”.
If Admin agrees you hounding and persistence of another member is acceptable, I would find that very concerning for this site.
“Had you have said at the very beginning that you under no circumstances were you going to give any idea as to where you live not even the borough you live in, and for the life I me I cannot see why.
If you don’t see why? Then I have concerns about your decency on discretion being paramount. As you know this is a public forum. I am entitled to keep any private information about myself private.
“I would have backed off then.”
So you were using bullish and hounding tatics then?
“Remember Minx I myself know exactly what borough you do live in, so it was not for my benefit. “
So this gives you the right to demand that I tell everyone then?
“As an aside in future if you or anyone else does not want to answer a question for any reason, then just say at the start, sorry but I am not prepared to answer that question. It would have saved a lot of finger typing.”
Since when have you had the authority that I or anyone else is accountable to tell you anything?
To top it off you think that by sending me a pm will somehow make everything better, I don't wish to know what you have to say so far you have been very good at undermine me in public why now take it private?
So for that reason I will not be opening it.