Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.
Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this, but once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
I have to say I'm inclined to agree with the principles of this. Perhaps if there's a spare space in his diary, Rudd could become the British PM!
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The whole world Needs A Leader Like This!
Well for me it is a bloody shame we do not adopt the same attitudes over here.
As this is about Muslims if anyone went to say Saudi or another Islamic state, and tried to dictate what we wanted, they would either kick us out, or throw us in jail.
It is such a shame that most Islamic states are not as tolerant as the UK.
A person I deal with through work went to Saudi seven years ago and at passport control they found he had a cross on him. They confiscated it from him until his return, but when he went to collect it at the airport they never managed to find it. Maybe they really did lose it, but he thinks not.
Whilst that is a bit over the top, it is their country and their rules.
Australia and France to a degree are absolutely bang on the money!
Maybe Australia is the country to go to after all.
As this is about Muslims if anyone went to say Saudi or another Islamic state, and tried to dictate what we wanted, they would either kick us out, or throw us in jail.
It is such a shame that most Islamic states are not as tolerant as the UK.
A person I deal with through work went to Saudi seven years ago and at passport control they found he had a cross on him. They confiscated it from him until his return, but when he went to collect it at the airport they never managed to find it. Maybe they really did lose it, but he thinks not.
Whilst that is a bit over the top, it is their country and their rules.
Australia and France to a degree are absolutely bang on the money!
Maybe Australia is the country to go to after all.
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The title of the thread is 'The whole World needs a leader like this'
So the whole World needs a leader who says 'If your not white, don't speak english and are not a christian... start being like us or fuck off'??
The previous American President springs to mind
Where the fuck does it say anything about being white?
What is wrong with people coming to live in their country, but have to speak the fecking language?
Also it has nothing to do with being a Christian, it is purely about going to their country and living by the rules they lay down.
When in Rome springs to mind.
I bet Australia have not got Primary schools where 27 different languages are spoken.
How the teachers cope with that malarky I do not know, but they HAVE too I suppose, but it does not help to educate.
I think your above comments have twisted what the Australian PM is trying to say, to meet your own opinion.
Quote by kentswingers777
The title of the thread is 'The whole World needs a leader like this'
So the whole World needs a leader who says 'If your not white, don't speak english and are not a christian... start being like us or fuck off'??
The previous American President springs to mind
Where the fuck does it say anything about being white?
What is wrong with people coming to live in their country, but have to speak the fecking language?
Also it has nothing to do with being a Christian, it is purely about going to their country and living by the rules they lay down.
When in Rome springs to mind.
I bet Australia have not got Primary schools where 27 different languages are spoken.
How the teachers cope with that malarky I do not know, but they HAVE too I suppose, but it does not help to educate.
I think your above comments have twisted what the Australian PM is trying to say, to meet your own opinion.
lol i troll you!
Master of Sex
Pah! Rudd is just repeating what John Howard siad in 2008 
To a degree i agree with Rudd he has proven to be a greeat leader with substance,but UK has demostrated over the years since William Wilberforce days to be a tolerant society,my question is ,as one of the oldest democracy do we learn from the pirates from down under or the beard Allah worshippers from the desert...i wont be suprised if someone advocates for all mosques in UK to be demolished and all foreigners banned from speaking their mother tongues in live Her Majesty.
Sex God
Okay, so you chose the Metropolitan Police to make a point I presume, about people from non-British backgrounds committing crime.
I'm guessing that's what you're trying to do. Yes?
So you chose the most racially/culturally diverse part of Britain to get your 'proof'.
I live in Merseyside. I just checked their police force wanted appeals. Out of 23 appeals, five are from black or minority ethnic backgrounds. Several of those five may well have been born in this country. But if we're just going for occular proof, then five out of 23 appear to be non-white.
But yeah, I just thought I'd throw that into the mix.
I'm guessing that's what you're trying to do. Yes?
So you chose the most racially/culturally diverse part of Britain to get your 'proof'.
I live in Merseyside. I just checked their police force wanted appeals. Out of 23 appeals, five are from black or minority ethnic backgrounds. Several of those five may well have been born in this country. But if we're just going for occular proof, then five out of 23 appear to be non-white.
But yeah, I just thought I'd throw that into the mix.
Sex God
I found myself nodding in agreement with much of what Rudd said, but not all.
Then Kaz set me straight, of coarse it is not their Country at all.
I feel we may have bent over backwards, a little to much to accommodate people. I invite people into my house, but if they don't like the wall paper I am not going to change it for them.
Then Kaz set me straight, of coarse it is not their Country at all.
I feel we may have bent over backwards, a little to much to accommodate people. I invite people into my house, but if they don't like the wall paper I am not going to change it for them.
Master of Sex
Good grief! Rudd didn't say it!. Nor did John Howard.
Sex God
OK
I found myself nodding in agreement with much of what was written, but not all.
Then Kaz set me straight, of coarse it is not their Country at all.
I feel we may have bent over backwards, a little to much to accommodate people. I invite people into my house, but if they don't like the wall paper I am not going to change it for them
Happy now?
I found myself nodding in agreement with much of what was written, but not all.
Then Kaz set me straight, of coarse it is not their Country at all.
I feel we may have bent over backwards, a little to much to accommodate people. I invite people into my house, but if they don't like the wall paper I am not going to change it for them
Happy now?
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The enemy within.
There are many more " British born " would be bombers out there.
These are the real danger to us as they are born and bred here, but seek to destroy us through their mad idea of what they think is right.
you really aught to be a little more carefull of your language and approach Mr Kent, that is if you would rather not have to keep going on the defensive, and thinking the forum against you.
You have changed the nature of the thread from discussing how far (or not) a nation can or should go to accomodate 'in-comers', to virtually accusing those already born & bred (as it were) but of a differing cultural heritage of being potential murderous terrorists.
lp
Sex God
Snopes (the site where you can find out whether those sorts of stories are true or not) collected the quote from the original post in October 2002 from an email. Shocking that it's now being attributed to yet another politician and spouted as truth 8 years down the line
Quote by Kaznkev
The enemy within.
There are many more " British born " would be bombers out there.
These are the real danger to us as they are born and bred here, but seek to destroy us through their mad idea of what they think is right.
Twenty five years ago these were the enemy within,
I still remember the nuns trooping us into assembly to pray for the "brave boys" and having to do novenas for bobby sands.
So we were radicalised,taught to dislike the government, at a very young we become terroists?,no , because the mainstream began to consider some of the arguements .Began to engage,stopped demonising and started listening.
Sweeping generalisations about which section of society is a danger do nothing to protect us,and probably increase the tensions that lead to terroists acts.
Yeah right.
Quote by kentswingers777
The enemy within.
There are many more " British born " would be bombers out there.
These are the real danger to us as they are born and bred here, but seek to destroy us through their mad idea of what they think is right.
Twenty five years ago these were the enemy within,
I still remember the nuns trooping us into assembly to pray for the "brave boys" and having to do novenas for bobby sands.
So we were radicalised,taught to dislike the government, at a very young we become terroists?,no , because the mainstream began to consider some of the arguements .Began to engage,stopped demonising and started listening.
Sweeping generalisations about which section of society is a danger do nothing to protect us,and probably increase the tensions that lead to terroists acts.
Yeah right.
So how did peace come about in Northern Ireland? Extra troops? More patrols? Better vehicles?
Working together and breaking down barriers that culturally divided them stopped the wholesale slaughter. They now have a joint Catholic/Protestant football team that would not have been possible in the 70's and 80's.
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
The enemy within.
There are many more " British born " would be bombers out there.
These are the real danger to us as they are born and bred here, but seek to destroy us through their mad idea of what they think is right.
Twenty five years ago these were the enemy within,
I still remember the nuns trooping us into assembly to pray for the "brave boys" and having to do novenas for bobby sands.
So we were radicalised,taught to dislike the government, at a very young we become terroists?,no , because the mainstream began to consider some of the arguements .Began to engage,stopped demonising and started listening.
Sweeping generalisations about which section of society is a danger do nothing to protect us,and probably increase the tensions that lead to terroists acts.
Yeah right.
So how did peace come about in Northern Ireland? Extra troops? More patrols? Better vehicles?
Working together and breaking down barriers that culturally divided them stopped the wholesale slaughter. They now have a joint Catholic/Protestant football team that would not have been possible in the 70's and 80's.
Dave_Notts
The only reason peace came about was because Sinn Feine realised that the bomb was never going to move the British Governments stance on Ireland.
Gerry Adams a terrorist himself knew that the bullet was never going to win his war in Ireland.
The history of Ireland is a complex one and yes breaking down divisions within the communities has helped to make Ireland a much more stable place....Northern Ireland obviously before someone on here nit picks.
The Real IRA are still lurking and have all the weapons been de-commisioned? I doubt it.
The hearts and minds strategy has gone a long way in making the people of the province, look towards peace. Whether it can be sustained is another matter, but I hope it can be for the long term future of Ireland.
As I say Northern Irelands politics are very complex and will take a generation or two to stop the division, but it is still there but agree that it is better than it has been for decades.
Gerry Adams only listened when it suited him too, but his deep hatred of England is there, only he hides it better nowadays.
But it would only take a spark to ignite the troubles again, which I hope never happens again.....but it lurks all the same as divisions exist between religions or cultures, and probably always will do, as that is human nature.
Sex God
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The only reason peace came about was because Sinn Feine realised that the bomb was never going to move the British Governments stance on Ireland.
Gerry Adams a terrorist himself knew that the bullet was never going to win his war in Ireland.
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The history and social interactions are complicated, but no more so than any other area of the world.
As for Sinn Fein realising that the bomb wouldn't move the British government ..... I'm pretty certain that history records John Major approaching Gerry Adams in his first few days of becoming the successor to Margaret Thatcher as Conservative Prime minister, in order to open a dialogue.
Mr Adams agreement to participate may have been based on an understanding that global support for his cause may be waning. Or that guerilla action doesn't always result in a meeting with a leader of one of the major world players every day, so perhaps saw an opportunity to broker a deal, or to gain political points later down the line. Either way, Mr. Majors approach was obviously too good for Mr. Adams to pass up.
As an aside, Mr. Major stated to the House of Commons in November 1993 that "...to sit down and talk with Mr. Adams and the Provisional IRA... would turn my stomach" whilst having repeated meeting with Mr Adams and his party. So while appearing to support the previous leaders tough stance on terrorism, he was in fact pressing on with his own agenda, which goes some way to dispel the myth that Mr. Major was a 'puppet' of the previous regime.
But we digress.
Given that the original topic started off about Australia and the comments made about the indigenous population, I can't help wondering if elements of the Aborigines will begin some form of campaign similar to the Irish movement in the future.
