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Seems there's a name and a cure !!
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How ironic. That just about sums up perfectly the attitude of those people. Brilliant.
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Seems there's a name and a cure !!
An author eh? Seems he would be better suited being a comedian.
Here is I think an even better one for people's perusal. :giggle:
Presumably you have read it ? Do you still intend to hog the middle lane now?
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Can I ask you though, why do you use the middle lane, why not the outside lane if that is empty and the middle lane has a bit of traffic in it ? why only hogg the middle lane ?I mean nobody should want to overtake you there if your doing 70mph should they !
I use the middle lane Mids as much slower traffic uses the inside lane, and it is better using that lane than constantly going from the inside lane to the middle lane sometimes every half a mile.
I still will argue that doing the national speed limit of 70mph on a motorway in the MIDDLE lane is NOT hogging. This is a simple and easy case of extorting more money from the easy target that is the motorist. Nobody can run anyone down for breaking the law, when breaking the law themselves by doing something else, that is called double standards, and we know there is not a single person on this site with any of those Mids eh?
Now if people want to slag me off for doing 155mph on the M20 last week on my very powerful 1000cc motorbike, then that is another debate entirely.
OK, now can I ask you how you feel when your doing 70mph in the middle lane with a clear inside lane (for half a mile or less or more) and you catch up with another moron, sorry I mean middle lane hogger who is doing 60mph, the outside lane is busy and overtaking the hogger is difficult, do you sit patiently at a safe distance behind them thinking, it's cool they are doing nothing wrong, or do you think "dickhead shift" (write what you want here but answer yourself in your own mind honestly please)
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OK, now can I ask you how you feel when your doing 70mph in the middle lane with a clear inside lane (for half a mile or less or more) and you catch up with another moron, sorry I mean middle lane hogger who is doing 60mph, the outside lane is busy and overtaking the hogger is difficult, do you sit patiently at a safe distance behind them thinking, it's cool they are doing nothing wrong, or do you think "dickhead shift" (write what you want here but answer yourself in your own mind honestly please)
Mids I have just come in from a journey that has taken me over 150 miles of motorway driving.
I shall tell you what the problems are on the motorways. Firstly tailgaters on the outside lane driving too close to a car doing OVER 70mph. The second one is people doing 65mph in the OUTSIDE lane and causing frustration and anger, and forcing other drivers to " undertake ". The next is what I would call middle lane hoggers. The ones doing 55-65mph are the biggest of all problems.
I sat in the middle lane today for over 50 miles doing 70 mph. I did not have to continually switch from the inside to the middle lane and back again every two miles. If ( and it was a rare occurrence ) that another vehicle was in the middle lane and wanted to overtake me, it was a simple task to go onto the outside lane, but bare in mind that to overtake me they were breaking the national speed limit to do so. This in 50 odd miles happened just the once. What I found annoying is the idiot doing 50mph in the middle lane and I believe these are the people they will be targeted by the police. I do not believe for a second that a car traveling at 70mph in the middle lane will be targeted as hogging that lane.
This is simply a money making exercise. As an example these are the biggest causes of accidents on our motorways.
Following too closely
Weather
Tiredness and lack of concentration
Problems associated with breakdowns
These are the main contributory factors and I do not see anywhere on the net any figures that prove middle lane driving causes crashes. Driving too close and too fast yes, but nothing with regards to the subject we have been discussing. IF the Police are going to target drivers who stay in the middle lane constantly they had better get more police as after today's journey I would say the middle lane was the busiest.
What is really funny are the tossers who complain about middle lane drivers in the media, and yet without a shadow of a doubt they do it as well. These people will also say they don't speed or do anything wrong whilst crap and he who cast the first stone etc. All these liars who say they only go in the middle or outside lanes and then straight back to the inside lane are well ........
These are the middle lane hoggers. If this guy was doing 70mph that car would not have had to overtake.
I am obviously a tosser as i DEFINETLY DONT SPEED !
I think if i did it would only ever be if i was getting to one of my kids or my husband in an emergency or if i was driving and some one was having problems and to avoid them hitting me i would speed to get out of the way ... however i have never had to do either of those things so far in many years of driving.
I dont speed ever, call me what you want i dont care
I think if i did it would only ever be if i was getting to one of my kids or my husband in an emergency or if i was driving and some one was having problems and to avoid them hitting me i would speed to get out of the way ... however i have never had to do either of those things so far in many years of driving.
I dont speed ever, call me what you want i dont care
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It's interesting that somebody who admits to breaking the law and boasts about his intention to continue breaking the law is allowed to hurl insults at people who don't.
"Ere he shall lose an eye for such a trifle... For doing deeds of nature! I'm ashamed. The law is such an ass."
(from a play published by the English dramatist George Chapman in 1654 - Revenge for Honour)
I rest my case (if indeed I had one to start with) :grin:
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I am a patient driver, unless on the motorway behind a middle lane hogger then I just sit behind them flashing my lights and sounding my horn until they move over
Why don't you just overtake the middle lane hogger? Surely that's the safest option? The driving you describe can best be described as aggressive and dangerous.
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On speeding I understand the law, I understand why we have it, but it does work both ways for me, I drive for the speed of the road at the time, I dont speed often, I try not to speed but at 2am on a dual carriageway speeding is less dangerous than driving past a school at 3pm with the kids coming out at the legal 30mph. Some people though believe they are above the law and break it simply because they want to
Surely you must believe that you are above the law if you think that exceeding the speed limit by 30 mph is at any time acceptable?
On the contrary, I broke the law and accepted the consequences with an appology not a moan, accepting that the penalty was justified and belieiving I "got off lightly" I did not say "the law is an ass, the law is wrong and I will continue to break it every time" I drive.
Yes accidents on motorways are usually down to idiots, rarely down to mechanical failure such as tyre blowouts.
Driving too close
Driving too fast for the road conditions
Tiredness
Lack of attention
and other factors INCLUDING hogging the middle lane at any speed in any conditions and people who think the law doesnt apply to them because they know better
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It's interesting that somebody who admits to breaking the law and boasts about his intention to continue breaking the law is allowed to hurl insults at people who don't.
You are starting to come across on here as somebody who is so perfect. I am sure there are plenty of examples of YOU throwing plenty of insults around, in fact from memory I know you have been banned for them. So it is not a good idea to try and come across as all high and mighty.
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I use the lanes on motorways as they are intended and as the law states they should be used. I don't find it difficult or complicated, it's just a safe and aware way of driving and causes little problem to myself or other road users .
The Police would say that those that cause accidents, never actually think they are doing anything wrong at all. You are obviously such a perfect and considerate person in a car, that maybe you should contact your local Police station and offer your driving skills to the less fortunate amongst us who have not got a clue on how to drive safely.
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and other factors INCLUDING hogging the middle lane at any speed in any conditions and people who think the law doesnt apply to them because they know better
Mids i will continue to argue the fact that doing the national speed limit of 70mph on a motorway in the middle lane, is not dangerous or makes me a hogger of that lane. From my many years of driving on the motorway network, the middle lane hoggers are the people who fail to get up to the correct speed and sit there doing the same speed as people in the inside lane.
Mids watch this video of a newly qualified driver getting a lesson from a qualified ADI instructor. Watch it all Mids and see what happens when the driver gets onto the section of motorway that is four lanes. His instructor keeps him constantly in the second lane. He is not overtaking anything at all and yet he does not automatically go into the inside lane.
This video was taken in 2012. So is the law wrong or the ADI Mids? The video is called "Motorway lesson on changing lanes and making progress". Make sure you watch all of it Mids as it makes for very interesting watching. Obviously a qualified ADI is not teaching his pupil the correct way of motorway driving. I would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on a proper ADI who is teaching his pupil to stay in the second lane.
I have sent the link to this video to a friend of mine who is an ADI for the AA. I shall report back what she says about it.
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I am a patient driver, unless on the motorway behind a middle lane hogger then I just sit behind them flashing my lights and sounding my horn until they move over
Why don't you just overtake the middle lane hogger? Surely that's the safest option? The driving you describe can best be described as aggressive and dangerous.
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On speeding I understand the law, I understand why we have it, but it does work both ways for me, I drive for the speed of the road at the time, I dont speed often, I try not to speed but at 2am on a dual carriageway speeding is less dangerous than driving past a school at 3pm with the kids coming out at the legal 30mph. Some people though believe they are above the law and break it simply because they want to
Surely you must believe that you are above the law if you think that exceeding the speed limit by 30 mph is at any time acceptable?
On the contrary, I broke the law and accepted the consequences with an appology not a moan, accepting that the penalty was justified and belieiving I "got off lightly" I did not say "the law is an ass, the law is wrong and I will continue to break it every time" I drive.
Yes accidents on motorways are usually down to idiots, rarely down to mechanical failure such as tyre blowouts.
Driving too close
Driving too fast for the road conditions
Tiredness
Lack of attention
and other factors INCLUDING hogging the middle lane at any speed in any conditions and people who think the law doesnt apply to them because they know better
Also including idiots who think it's acceptable to drive at 30 mph above the speed limit and by morons driving aggressively trying to force other motorists to move over rather than just overtake as any sensible driver would.
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Also including idiots who think it's acceptable to drive at 30 mph above the speed limit and by morons driving aggressively trying to force other motorists to move over rather than just overtake as any sensible driver would.
So these are the correct procedures Max.
Amazing how many people do not understand the Highway Code and it's contents.
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And yet again you post a link that you either haven't watched or have failed to understand.
The instructor explained clearly each time why he advised the pupil to stay in the second lane. The fact that he gave reasons for not pulling over to the inside lane and that they were clearly overtaking lorries most of the time just proves the the point !
Once again either read a part of a comment or a small part of a video. Most of the video had you been bothered to watch it clearly showed no overtaking anything. The driver sat in the second lane for miles overtaking nothing. Did you only watch the first two minutes then?
But from someone who has openly admitted hardly using the motorways I am not surprised at your knowledge on the subject, but to enlighten you forward the video to 8 minutes and 8 seconds. The driver has just overtaken a lorry and has continued to stay in the second lane. For a reference and especially with a qualified ADI next to him, he should have gone straight into the inside lane after overtaking the lorry. Did you miss that part at all? Oh yes sorry it was past the two minute sequence of a ten minute video. I asked Mids to watch all the video and hope he does.In that clip he tells the driver to stay in the second lane as there is a split junction coming up. That is of course true bot not for about two miles AFTER he has overtaken the lorry. That is not the correct procedure. He should have overtaken the lorry and then returned to the inside lane until further up the motorway, until such time when the junction indicted the correct lanes for the drivers to be in. That is not two miles before the junction.
I have long believed the standards of driving instuctors to be quite low, if I were to spend the next hour looking out my window I would witness at least 20 of them, yes one every 3 minutes teaching pupils not 10 yards away, yes I live in one of those streets the instructors love on one of those estates they use daily to instuct their pupil.
At least 2 thirds of them are teaching inadequately, watch them use a roundabout and see them allow the learner to go accross it not around it, watch how they allow them to "Poke" their noses into the main roads at junctions.
With TV adverts making ridiculous claims for new driving instructors it seems anyone and everyone thinks they can teach someone to drive, I couldn't teach anyone and know it.
Showing me a video of someone breaking the rules of the highway code and now the law will not convince me that you are right.
I assume you drive on the motorways only in cruise control mode, otherwise it would be impossible to keep a constant 70mph for hours on end.
Your a lazy, selfish, insecure driver and that is an end to it but at least I know taht sooner or later you will be paying the penalty for that
At least 2 thirds of them are teaching inadequately, watch them use a roundabout and see them allow the learner to go accross it not around it, watch how they allow them to "Poke" their noses into the main roads at junctions.
With TV adverts making ridiculous claims for new driving instructors it seems anyone and everyone thinks they can teach someone to drive, I couldn't teach anyone and know it.
Showing me a video of someone breaking the rules of the highway code and now the law will not convince me that you are right.
I assume you drive on the motorways only in cruise control mode, otherwise it would be impossible to keep a constant 70mph for hours on end.
Your a lazy, selfish, insecure driver and that is an end to it but at least I know taht sooner or later you will be paying the penalty for that
To answer the person who asks why I will not simply overtake a car hogging in the middle lane, that is not always possible, if the nearside lane is empty and I catch up with a vehicle using the middle lane doing let's say 50mph I have to move to the middle lane to overtake them, to move to the outside lane which may be busy is not so easy, so yes I sound my horn, flash my lights and let the idiot in the middle lane with no reason not to move to the nearside lane that I would like them to do so, some ignore you but not for long, they start to get embarrassed at the attention your bringing to them. after all they are insecure drivers so are easily unerved and you don't even have to get close to them.
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Your a lazy, selfish, insecure driver and that is an end to it but at least I know taht sooner or later you will be paying the penalty for that
Sorry Mids but I think you are the least on here to offer any advice about driving safely after you wrote.
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I broke the law and accepted the consequences with an appology not a moan, accepting that the penalty was justified and belieiving I "got off lightly"
Or.....
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On speeding I understand the law, I understand why we have it, but it does work both ways for me, I drive for the speed of the road at the time, I dont speed often,
Whether you break the law once or a million times, that really is a bit of a weak argument Mids. Just like me if I get caught I will accept the punishment. But as I have said already, I do not believe that any Police officer will pull me over for doing 70mph on a motorway and in the middle lane. I shall let you know of course if it does happen.
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To answer the person who asks why I will not simply overtake a car hogging in the middle lane, that is not always possible, if the nearside lane is empty and I catch up with a vehicle using the middle lane doing let's say 50mph I have to move to the middle lane to overtake them, to move to the outside lane which may be busy is not so easy, so yes I sound my horn, flash my lights and let the idiot in the middle lane with no reason not to move to the nearside lane that I would like them to do so, some ignore you but not for long, they start to get embarrassed at the attention your bringing to them. after all they are insecure drivers so are easily unerved and you don't even have to get close to them.
Once again Mids not only are you yourself breaking the law here, but also creating an even more dangerous situation than the driver driving in the middle lane. Talk about double standards here. You want him out of the way so blast your horn and flash your lights? What kind of aggressive driving is that? Also one day doing that will see a driver slam his brakes on and you ram him, and then you will be in huge trouble from the law, or even more possible is the fact that driver will pull over and follow you and then punch your lights out at the next junction you stop at, and many people would applaud him.
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To answer the person who asks why I will not simply overtake a car hogging in the middle lane, that is not always possible, if the nearside lane is empty and I catch up with a vehicle using the middle lane doing let's say 50mph I have to move to the middle lane to overtake them, to move to the outside lane which may be busy is not so easy, so yes I sound my horn, flash my lights and let the idiot in the middle lane with no reason not to move to the nearside lane that I would like them to do so, some ignore you but not for long, they start to get embarrassed at the attention your bringing to them. after all they are insecure drivers so are easily unerved and you don't even have to get close to them.
If you were a half competent driver you would have made preparations to overtake the car in the middle lane well before the point of driving up its rear end. It's laughable that you accuse others of being lazy insecure drivers, driving instructors of not being up to the job and some drivers of thinking they're above the law when you yourself admit to moronic driving and adhering to speed limits when you feel like it.
Do you ever read back through some of the rubbish you write?
For the most part that is what I do, I was taught that a good driver will anticipate at all times and I pride myself on the fact that I normally react to situations before the 3 cars in front of me do, ie I am indicating to move to another lane before the 3 cars in front of me have realised that they are catching up on a slower moving vehicle 4 cars ahead of them or even that cars in the nearside are going to be moving into the middle lane etc, on urban streets I see the zebra crossing or the people approaching the pelican crossing before the drivers in front and so on, however on the busy roads of the midlands (the M6 between junctions 10a and 6 is the busiest section of motorway in europe even after the addition of the M6 toll road) so often it is a long line of traffic in all 3 lanes making anticipation difficult or even when possible, joining the outside lane difficult, something which should not be necessary when the inside lane is relatively empty but caused by middle lane hoggers.
I don't generally force the middle lane hogger to move over but occassionally yes, it is pathetic that the only vehicles ahead of you are a few in the inside lane and one sitting in the middle lane for no reason whatsoever.
Thankfully there are by comparison very few middle lane hoggers most people do drive sensibly on the motorways but like in all walks of life those are the ones that get discussed, nobody cares to talk about the decent drivers because there is not really anything to say about them. Good drivers do not cause me or others any frustration, I don't even mind being stuck behind caravans they have a right to be there, I am always respectfull of HGVs which require more time for manouvering and to build up speed, I try to help learner drivers by keeping a good distancebehind them so as not to intimidate them.
I had an accident at the ripe old age of 17 which was my fault and that was the last accident where I was at fault in 41 years of driving (touching wood now)
I don't generally force the middle lane hogger to move over but occassionally yes, it is pathetic that the only vehicles ahead of you are a few in the inside lane and one sitting in the middle lane for no reason whatsoever.
Thankfully there are by comparison very few middle lane hoggers most people do drive sensibly on the motorways but like in all walks of life those are the ones that get discussed, nobody cares to talk about the decent drivers because there is not really anything to say about them. Good drivers do not cause me or others any frustration, I don't even mind being stuck behind caravans they have a right to be there, I am always respectfull of HGVs which require more time for manouvering and to build up speed, I try to help learner drivers by keeping a good distancebehind them so as not to intimidate them.
I had an accident at the ripe old age of 17 which was my fault and that was the last accident where I was at fault in 41 years of driving (touching wood now)
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Two wrongs don't make a right, that is for sure.
The story here is that middle lane hoggers are now going to be treated in the same way as all the other bad driving habits that people have. Before flashing your lights and blaring your horn at what is clearly bad driving, remind yourself that aggressive driving is just as bad.
Everyone gets what they deserve in life, but it need not be our personal responsibility to deliver justice for people doing what is wrong.
The reason that you are wrong Star is that speedometers can be up to 10% out and the Police allow for this. This is why there are little to no speeding convictions below 80 mph on a motorway. Let's say you are toodling along at 70mph but your speedo is over-reading by 10% - in fact you are only doing 63 mph. The person coming up behind you is also doing 70mph and their speedo is under reading by 10% meaning they are actually doing 77 mph. OF course I accept that these are extremes and a 17mph difference on two speedo's showing 70 mph is going to be unlikely but a difference of 10 mph is entirely possible. Taking into account the real world scenario where cars will routinely accelerate to 80 mph and more to over-take and all that you are doing is being inconsiderate to other road users. Staying in the middle lane causes a funnelling effect in the outside lane and an effective reduction of a three lane motorway into a two lane motorway - which simply need not happen.
Courtesy and manners to other road users does not even cost you any time and is simply good driving.
The story here is that middle lane hoggers are now going to be treated in the same way as all the other bad driving habits that people have. Before flashing your lights and blaring your horn at what is clearly bad driving, remind yourself that aggressive driving is just as bad.
Everyone gets what they deserve in life, but it need not be our personal responsibility to deliver justice for people doing what is wrong.
The reason that you are wrong Star is that speedometers can be up to 10% out and the Police allow for this. This is why there are little to no speeding convictions below 80 mph on a motorway. Let's say you are toodling along at 70mph but your speedo is over-reading by 10% - in fact you are only doing 63 mph. The person coming up behind you is also doing 70mph and their speedo is under reading by 10% meaning they are actually doing 77 mph. OF course I accept that these are extremes and a 17mph difference on two speedo's showing 70 mph is going to be unlikely but a difference of 10 mph is entirely possible. Taking into account the real world scenario where cars will routinely accelerate to 80 mph and more to over-take and all that you are doing is being inconsiderate to other road users. Staying in the middle lane causes a funnelling effect in the outside lane and an effective reduction of a three lane motorway into a two lane motorway - which simply need not happen.
Courtesy and manners to other road users does not even cost you any time and is simply good driving.
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The reason that you are wrong Star is that speedometers can be up to 10% out and the Police allow for this. This is why there are little to no speeding convictions below 80 mph on a motorway. Let's say you are toodling along at 70mph but your speedo is over-reading by 10% - in fact you are only doing 63 mph. The person coming up behind you is also doing 70mph and their speedo is under reading by 10% meaning they are actually doing 77 mph. OF course I accept that these are extremes and a 17mph difference on two speedo's showing 70 mph is going to be unlikely but a difference of 10 mph is entirely possible. Taking into account the real world scenario where cars will routinely accelerate to 80 mph and more to over-take and all that you are doing is being inconsiderate to other road users. Staying in the middle lane causes a funnelling effect in the outside lane and an effective reduction of a three lane motorway into a two lane motorway - which simply need not happen.
Firstly TH I have a two year old car and if the speedo was out by your calculations by 10%, I would take the car back to the dealers. But hasten to say I have a sat nav in the car which I would think is a lot more accurate than 10%. When the car goes over 70mph it bleeps at me but I usually have the cruise control set to 70mph. The car doing 70mph is showing 71mph on the very expensive sat nav system I have. I think if you check those wonderful sat navs are very accurate where speed is concerned. I take your point with regards to a cars speedometer usually showing less than you are actually traveling at but mine seems to be bang on with the sat nav. It only shows a bit more of a gap when you reach over 130mph.
( German Autobahns of course ), don't want you know who banging on about speeding.Quote by Too Hot
Courtesy and manners to other road users does not even cost you any time and is simply good driving.
If only things were that simple we would have zero road rage, and everyone would arrive at their destination happy and content. Sadly that is not the case.
So your car is accurate and you do 70mph, excellent, what do you do when the car in front of you is doing 50mph and hogging the middle lane too, do you run into the back of them, stay behind them or overtake them frustrated at having to go into the outside lane when the nearside lane is clear and perhap adding to the conjestion of a lane that should be the least used ?
Does your car tell other drivers if their speedometers are out by 10% and they dont have Sat Nav, what if the car behind you is doing 77mph believing they are only doing 70mph, are you surprised that they overtake you ? you tell us they are speeding, and that may well be true but they don't know that and neither do the Police so I would say that is acceptable and the Police agree with me.
Yes it would be nice if everyone was considerate in all matters, but it's the real world and we are humans, the meanest, nasiest, greediest, self centred creatures on the planet so that is not going to happen, luckily some of us are considerate road users for most of the time.
You can break the law of driving, we all can, I choose to do so on occasions, but I know why the laws are there, I don't claim to know more than those that make them and I accept the consequences of when I do. What I know I cannot do is justify myself for breaking them because there is no excuse for breaking the law.
Does your car tell other drivers if their speedometers are out by 10% and they dont have Sat Nav, what if the car behind you is doing 77mph believing they are only doing 70mph, are you surprised that they overtake you ? you tell us they are speeding, and that may well be true but they don't know that and neither do the Police so I would say that is acceptable and the Police agree with me.
Yes it would be nice if everyone was considerate in all matters, but it's the real world and we are humans, the meanest, nasiest, greediest, self centred creatures on the planet so that is not going to happen, luckily some of us are considerate road users for most of the time.
You can break the law of driving, we all can, I choose to do so on occasions, but I know why the laws are there, I don't claim to know more than those that make them and I accept the consequences of when I do. What I know I cannot do is justify myself for breaking them because there is no excuse for breaking the law.
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You can break the law of driving, we all can, I choose to do so on occasions, but I know why the laws are there, I don't claim to know more than those that make them and I accept the consequences of when I do. What I know I cannot do is justify myself for breaking them because there is no excuse for breaking the law.
No there is not but you are doing a mighty fine job of trying to do that, by constantly trying to justify either flashing your lights, or beeping your horn, or speeding " on occasion ". You break the law a lot by the sound of it, you drive aggressively,you are a dangerous selfish driver by doing what you have admitted to doing with a special mention to the flashing of the lights and horn sounding, but justify that by saying you don't do it that often. As if that somehow makes you less of a law breaker than anyone else.
, yet have the cheek to slag off a driver for going in the middle lane. I would say that was a much lesser offense to the things you do.........on occasion of course. Quote by starlightcouple
Also including idiots who think it's acceptable to drive at 30 mph above the speed limit and by morons driving aggressively trying to force other motorists to move over rather than just overtake as any sensible driver would.
So these are the correct procedures Max.
Amazing how many people do not understand the Highway Code and it's contents.
Was this the part of the Highway Code you were drawing our attention to?
Quote by Part of Section 163
* move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in
If so, I agree that some people do not understand the Highway Code and it's contents.
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But flashing your lights and beeping your horn are acceptable forms of telling other drivers you are there. Middle lane joggers are usually oblivious to what is around them, therefore as the highway code states it is perfectly acceptable to let other road users know you are there.
There's a world of difference between making other drivers aware that you're there and driving aggressively behind someone flashing lights and beeping horns to make someone move over. You won't find that as being acceptable anywhere in the Highway Code!
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But flashing your lights and beeping your horn are acceptable forms of telling other drivers you are there. Middle lane joggers are usually oblivious to what is around them, therefore as the highway code states it is perfectly acceptable to let other road users know you are there.
There's a world of difference between making other drivers aware that you're there and driving aggressively behind someone flashing lights and beeping horns to make someone move over. You won't find that as being acceptable anywhere in the Highway Code!
I appreciate there is a difference, but unless someone is gesticulating wildly and mouthing obscenities how can you tell?
So if I come up behind you and flash my lights and beep my horn so you're not going to pull over and you think its aggressive?
It's also not a requirement to get out of the police's way when they are flashing their lights and using two tone, but we all do. Again its a signal to tell you that they are there.
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But flashing your lights and beeping your horn are acceptable forms of telling other drivers you are there. Middle lane joggers are usually oblivious to what is around them, therefore as the highway code states it is perfectly acceptable to let other road users know you are there.
There's a world of difference between making other drivers aware that you're there and driving aggressively behind someone flashing lights and beeping horns to make someone move over. You won't find that as being acceptable anywhere in the Highway Code!
I appreciate there is a difference, but unless someone is gesticulating wildly and mouthing obscenities how can you tell?
So if I come up behind you and flash my lights and beep my horn so you're not going to pull over and you think its aggressive?
It's also not a requirement to get out of the police's way when they are flashing their lights and using two tone, but we all do. Again its a signal to tell you that they are there.
Of course it's aggressive driving. You don't think it is? Please show me where in the Highway Code that says that type of driving is acceptable at any time.
