Dunno about hitting anyone but I think you were right to make your views known.
Im surprised folk didnt suppoort you, often when somebody makes such points others will express their discomfort too.
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Quote by brucie
i was in rios last week and theres an old feordie geezer who an annoying fucker. he was going on about the fucking forriners, taking our jobs and the like. no one was taking any notice because hes regarded as a grumpy old fool. made my blood boil. the acdeptance as much as his idiotic views.
so i told him to shut the fuck up and that i found what he was saying as offensive.
his response was that no one else was complaining so whats my problem.
is it wront to hit an old man who prides himself in taking a whole viagra every day and only sleeping with black women whilst being a racist cunt?
Why is that racist? I know it's very trendy and "right on, man" to be "anti-racist" but you have to be selective and accurate. It's a very pertinent and current topic to be be discussing. I would be very pissed off if an eavesdropper commented on, and threatened violence against me because of a private conversation.
Have to say Forest I agree with you.
I detest the fact that you can only be racist if you are white, and to be honest the most racist guy I know is a Jamaican.
IF it was a private conversation Brucie you should have just ignored it.
He may well be a grumpy old fool, but I wonder had you have been so brave had it of been a strapping hard geezer?
Thought not.
I detest the fact that you can only be racist if you are white, and to be honest the most racist guy I know is a Jamaican.
IF it was a private conversation Brucie you should have just ignored it.
He may well be a grumpy old fool, but I wonder had you have been so brave had it of been a strapping hard geezer?
Thought not.
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It's never wrong to remind an idiot that he is one....helps them with perspective
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Quote by kentswingers777
Have to say Forest I agree with you.
I detest the fact that you can only be racist if you are white, and to be honest the most racist guy I know is a Jamaican.
IF it was a private conversation Brucie you should have just ignored it.
He may well be a grumpy old fool, but I wonder had you have been so brave had it of been a strapping hard geezer?
Thought not.
I was once told, by a group of Turks to "F#ck off white boy" I did as they asked
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Quote by kentswingers777
I was once told, by a group of Turks to "F#ck off white boy" I did as they asked
What had you been up too then?
On the odd occasion, after the odd beverage, I have been known to try a kebab, on this occasion the gentlemen in question had shut the shop before I got there, I was using my charms to try and temp them to re-open. I think they were tired and grumpy
Quote by kentswingers777
Have to say Forest I agree with you.
I detest the fact that you can only be racist if you are white, and to be honest the most racist guy I know is a Jamaican.
IF it was a private conversation Brucie you should have just ignored it.
He may well be a grumpy old fool, but I wonder had you have been so brave had it of been a strapping hard geezer?
Thought not.
A contradiction there me thinks! I love the one that goes 'I'm not racist but...........' makes me sick 'to be honest'
Quote by goldsmith
Have to say Forest I agree with you.
I detest the fact that you can only be racist if you are white, and to be honest the most racist guy I know is a Jamaican.
IF it was a private conversation Brucie you should have just ignored it.
He may well be a grumpy old fool, but I wonder had you have been so brave had it of been a strapping hard geezer?
Thought not.
A contradiction there me thinks! I love the one that goes 'I'm not racist but...........' makes me sick 'to be honest'
Well I am racist Gold...I am told that many times on here.
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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
It's never wrong to remind an idiot that he is one....helps them with perspective
I do hope I read that right... if so it made me giggle! :giggle:
I don't think violence is the answer to anything regardless of content of conversation.
Whilst we're on about offensive language... glass houses and stones spring to mind.
Quote by Kaznkev
is it wront to hit an old man
Hitting anyone over a disagreement shows that the person believes might is right. IMO that is the act of a bully.
Dave_Notts
Interesting point,i am a pacifist,with a very big but,there are situations where physically standing up for yourself and the things you believe in seem to me to be justified.A measured responce then?
Quote by Kaznkev
is it wront to hit an old man
Hitting anyone over a disagreement shows that the person believes might is right. IMO that is the act of a bully.
Dave_Notts
Interesting point,i am a pacifist,with a very big but,there are situations where physically standing up for yourself and the things you believe in seem to me to be justified.
Absolutely, for instance when you are being attacked or others are being attacked. At any other time it is bullying.
Dave_Notts
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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
It's never wrong to remind an idiot that he is one....helps them with perspective
Staggers,
well he or she, so as not to be sexist as well
I know the original post occurred at Rios. Correct me if I'm wrong, usually am on most things :sad: , but isn't Rios a club ?
(Never been to this one)
If so, surely they would have a policy on this matter, most clubs do.
Rather than getting into any sort of confrontation, agree violence is not the answer, which would probably get you both ejected and spoil what is meant to be a fun night out for all attending, why not have a quiet word with the management ?
Their club and their admission policies, so let them be the arbiter
Quote by Kaznkev
interesting side topic developing. is violence ever an answer?
ofcourse it is.
maybe not as a first resort but definately in self defence or with a stubborn opponent/enemy.
Agree with self-defence, disagree with hitting someone who is being stubborn.
Dave_Notts
One of the reasons i did not become a Quaker is because a friend very eloquently told me of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.i had to agree that in some cases violence is justified and modify my pacifism.
When violence is or isnt ok is a decision that we have to personally make i think tho.
The Warsaw Ghetto was not a discussion. They were being systematically killed (transportation to camps) or slowly being starved to death. The Germans were not being stubborn, they were murdering people. I can not see how you can possibly compare the two issues.
One is a disagreement while talking that ends in violence and the other is murder with intent
Dave_Notts
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myself racism covers many guises i prefer to tolerate people
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Quote by Kaz
had to agree that in some cases violence is justified and modify my pacifism.
When violence is or isnt ok is a decision that we have to personally make i think tho.
This is one of those things that I find most difficult. Much as I abhor violence, in the face of those prepared to use violence as a means to an end, I have to allow that violence as a means to an alternative end is a valid response. The defensive argument sometimes puts me on dangerous ground, but violence is sometimes justified.
Quote by Kenty
I detest the fact that you can only be racist if you are white, and to be honest the most racist guy I know is a Jamaican.
When you use the word 'racist' there, are we talking about ideology, structure, imperialism, the preservation of a particular so-called 'indigenous' class, power relationships, control, divide and rule, etc, or are we just talking about how some individual of your acquaintance doesn't much like white / brown / yellow people?
Only asking like, cos there is a difference between simple prejudice, and proper racism you know? ;)N x x x ;)
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Quote by Kenty
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When you use the word 'racist' there, are we talking about ideology, structure, imperialism, the preservation of a particular so-called 'indigenous' class, power relationships, control, divide and rule, etc, or are we just talking about how some individual doesn't much like white / brown / yellow people?
There is a difference you know? ;)N x x x ;)
there seems to be some racism in goa at the moment towards white people that want to settle there !! does this still stand as racism or is it different because they are white people in an indian state
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Quote by Lizaleanrob
there seems to be some racism in goa at the moment towards white people that want to settle there !! does this still stand as racism or is it different because they are white people in an indian state
Dunno Rob, don't know much about Goa TBQH? I'll guess though that now that everyone's going upmarket, some of the hostility might be directed towards a certain kind of Brit / West European clientele running about on the beach smashed off their faces on drink and drugs at these 'rave' parties I hear so much about?
N x x x ;)
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Quote by Lizaleanrob
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Quote by Kenty
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When you use the word 'racist' there, are we talking about ideology, structure, imperialism, the preservation of a particular so-called 'indigenous' class, power relationships, control, divide and rule, etc, or are we just talking about how some individual doesn't much like white / brown / yellow people?
There is a difference you know? ;)N x x x ;)
there seems to be some racism in goa at the moment towards white people that want to settle there !! does this still stand as racism or is it different because they are white people in an indian state
i do believe this answers what i was on about but if it only in the uk then i take it back
regards to type of settler in goa i was talking a different clientele oldies retiring types
Sex God
Ah, so you're talking about the indigenous population being somewhat resentful that wealthy Europeans are buying up land, putting in golf courses and 5 star hotels and retirement homes in the sun, forcing the locals out of their homes, cos they can no longer afford to keep them? I think I can kinda see where you're going?
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so are there rules for integration does being wealthy or cleaver with money make a difference :dunno
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Quote by Dave__Notts
Why are you bringing Zimbabwe and Goa into the debate? Their laws are different so a comparisson can not be drawn.
Sometimes I just have to ask Y?
Dave_Notts
That is confusing to me, what do you mean Dave?
i'm a member of the human race and i am prejudiced towards people i dont like.
racism is promoted by the ruling elite through their corporate owned and controlled media and levers of state power with lies, distortions and exaggerations, preying on the backwardness and prejudices of the exploited classes as one of the methods to maintain division in their own interests. in my opinion. bit like getting people to believe in gnomes at the bottom of the garden, witch doctors, ju ju men and deity's really, preying on suspicion and backwardness.
if you want to believe it's the black, brown, yellow, big nosed, slitty eyed, catholic, protestant, muslim, bhuddist, non british man's fault for the shit your in, the fucker who got you to believe it is laughing all the way to the bank with an obscene bonus and everyone who believed him is heading for austerity with the rest of us.
racism is promoted by the ruling elite through their corporate owned and controlled media and levers of state power with lies, distortions and exaggerations, preying on the backwardness and prejudices of the exploited classes as one of the methods to maintain division in their own interests. in my opinion. bit like getting people to believe in gnomes at the bottom of the garden, witch doctors, ju ju men and deity's really, preying on suspicion and backwardness.
if you want to believe it's the black, brown, yellow, big nosed, slitty eyed, catholic, protestant, muslim, bhuddist, non british man's fault for the shit your in, the fucker who got you to believe it is laughing all the way to the bank with an obscene bonus and everyone who believed him is heading for austerity with the rest of us.
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Quote by gulsonroad30664
i'm a member of the human race and i am prejudiced towards people i dont like.
racism is promoted by the ruling elite through their corporate owned and controlled media and levers of state power with lies, distortions and exaggerations, preying on the backwardness and prejudices of the exploited classes as one of the methods to maintain division in their own interests. in my opinion. bit like getting people to believe in gnomes at the bottom of the garden, witch doctors, ju ju men and deity's really, preying on suspicion and backwardness.
if you want to believe it's the black, brown, yellow, big nosed, slitty eyed, catholic, protestant, muslim, bhuddist, non british man's fault for the shit your in, the fucker who got you to believe it is laughing all the way to the bank with an obscene bonus and everyone who believed him is heading for austerity with the rest of us.
Give me a clue - is there ANY subject in a thread that you won't trot the same old stuff out for? Tell you waht - I'll start one on ice-cream flavours and you can tell us how 'some people' are laughing all the way to the bank with their bonuses cos we are stupid enough to eat vanilla. :giggle:
