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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I personally favour the straight or cut-throat razor....I find it leaves a nice neat wound and can at a push be used to dismember your victim to aid in the discreet disposal of the corpse

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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I personally favour the straight or cut-throat razor....I find it leaves a nice neat wound and can at a push be used to dismember your victim to aid in the discreet disposal of the corpse

Anything will do at a push.
Gun Laws are a bit like Speeding Laws - they contain the effects of real time risk rather than reduce the cause. If you have two cars hit head on at 30mph, then the results are less bad than if two cars hit head on at 70 mph, but speed limits alone don't stop cars hitting each other.
In the case in Cumbria, if Derrick Bird had been restricted to using an axe or similar, he would probably have taken out 3 or 4 people not 12. The actual CAUSE here was Mr. Bird "snapping" as he was under too much pressure, albeit that he might well have been to blame for part if not much of that pressure himself.
I'm not saying that the gun laws shouldn't be looked at, but I'm against any form of "knee jerk" change rather then a review in conjunction with other people aspects including causation and available councelling offset against advantages of gun use, eg. pest control on farms and the like.
Plim
Quote by kentswingers777
I still cannot see any reason why a normal member of the public joins a gun club, and as long as there is adequate " security " is allowed to take those guns home.
Is there any purpose in this and in many instances there are children in the house.
Is there any reason at all why guns should not be kept at the gun club, under strict security?
Why would you possibly want to take a gun and the ammunition into a family home?

Because you're a farmer who uses the gun for keeping down vermin.
Because you're a vet who's on call and has to destroy injured animals.
Because you're a member of the RUC and you need a personal protection weapon.
Because you're any kind of agricultural worker who needs a gun for vermin or to kill beasts, and the nearest gun club is 40 miles away along dodgy roads.
If you're a nutter who wants to use a legally held gun to kill people, you won't be deterred by having to go to the gun club. If you're a nutter who wants to kill people and can't get a gun, you'll go the Timothy McVeigh route - there are any number of recipes for ANFO and firework detonators on the internet.
Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
Mal
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I have been shooting since I was about 7 yrs old and was taught how to use guns responsibly.. I honestly think the UK Gun Laws are ok as they are.
I have my guns locked up in a secure cabinet in the house which was checked by a police officer who IMHO hadn't got a fecking clue what he was looking at or doing.
So if any changes need to be made it is better training for the police officers who have the job of doing the checks for applications and renewals.
Just a shame that the actions of mindless idiots spoil it for everyone.
I have never and never will understand the desire to own a is an inevitable result to the mass ownership of anything designed to kill
Staggs I agree with you....flags out time. lol
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I have never and never will understand the desire to own a is an inevitable result to the mass ownership of anything designed to kill

I was brought up in the country and use my guns for vermin and pest control on farms that my family have shot on for years. I am not a member of any gun club blasting huns heads and bits of clay out of the sky.
Anything can be used as a weapon.. it is how they are used.. a gun is only as dangerous as the handler.. I could go out and accidentally lose control of my car and injure or kill people..that is an accident a gun handled properly and safely my a competent sane person is a safe object.
I can see how some people may not agree with this but this was the way I was brought (dragged) up in the country.
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Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
Mal
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Guns don't kill people, rappers do...
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I have never and never will understand the desire to own a is an inevitable result to the mass ownership of anything designed to kill

Amputating fists would be an intelligent first step then.
Quote by awayman
I have never and never will understand the desire to own a is an inevitable result to the mass ownership of anything designed to kill

Amputating fists would be an intelligent first step then.
I'm surprised I would have thought you more a Darwinist than a believer in intelligent design
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I have never and never will understand the desire to own a is an inevitable result to the mass ownership of anything designed to kill

Amputating fists would be an intelligent first step then.
I'm surprised I would have thought you more a Darwinist than a believer in intelligent design
Darwinian, not darwinist. SJ Gould is my number one intellectual hero.
of course it's Darwinian ..... What a fool I've been ....I shall retire to the back of the class
You were already at the back of the class eating that mint yo-yo and it was only ten minutes before break and you will never make anything of yourself Lee minimus if you keep up that selfish attitude young man.
Quote by awayman
Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
Mal
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Guns don't kill people, rappers do...
What a stupid statement.
Quote by Mal
What a stupid statement.

Now now....
"Guns Don't Kill People, Rappers Do" (commonly referred to as "GDKPRD") is a song by the Welsh Rap act Goldie Lookin Chain from their Greatest Hits album.
Quote by JTS

What a stupid statement.

Now now....
"Guns Don't Kill People, Rappers Do" (commonly referred to as "GDKPRD") is a song by the Welsh Rap act Goldie Lookin Chain from their Greatest Hits album.
dunno
Quote by JTS

What a stupid statement.

Now now....
"Guns Don't Kill People, Rappers Do" (commonly referred to as "GDKPRD") is a song by the Welsh Rap act Goldie Lookin Chain from their Greatest Hits album.
I knew that
I love you Mum I love you dad :giggle:
Quote by Mal
Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
Mal
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And monkeys. Monkeys with guns.
Quote by Kaznkev

What a stupid statement.

Now now....
"Guns Don't Kill People, Rappers Do" (commonly referred to as "GDKPRD") is a song by the Welsh Rap act Goldie Lookin Chain from their Greatest Hits album.
dunno
You dont know Goldie lookin Chain,possibly the best thing to come out of wales since......
Here ya go
What in the name of all thing sacred was than?
Sorry I must be getting old
Quote by JTS

What a stupid statement.

Now now....
"Guns Don't Kill People, Rappers Do" (commonly referred to as "GDKPRD") is a song by the Welsh Rap act Goldie Lookin Chain from their Greatest Hits album.
'Greatest Hits' being the single best use of irony in pop since . . . erm . . . confused lol Who here can claim to have never sung along to 'Your mother's got a penis?' Not many I'm sure? :?
Safe as fuck! biggrin
N x x x ;)
Quote by neilinleeds

What a stupid statement.

Now now....
"Guns Don't Kill People, Rappers Do" (commonly referred to as "GDKPRD") is a song by the Welsh Rap act Goldie Lookin Chain from their Greatest Hits album.
'Greatest Hits' being the single best use of irony in pop since . . . erm . . . confused lol Who here can claim to have never sung along to 'Your mother's got a penis?' Not many I'm sure? :?
Safe as fuck! biggrin
N x x x ;)
I sang along to it, is it bad that I know the words to this one too
Quote by essex34m

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Quote by Mal
Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
Mal
wink

Guns don't kill people, rappers do...
What a stupid statement.
SHould you not moedrate yourself for that? Presumably they don't do irony on mod land... lol
Quote by Kaznkev

What a stupid statement.

Now now....
"Guns Don't Kill People, Rappers Do" (commonly referred to as "GDKPRD") is a song by the Welsh Rap act Goldie Lookin Chain from their Greatest Hits album.
dunno
You dont know Goldie lookin Chain,possibly the best thing to come out of wales since......
Here ya go
What in the name of all thing sacred was than?
Sorry I must be getting old
i personally prefer your missus is a nutter innocent
Old,no mature like a fine wine wink
A classic from one of the early demos

Another classic

"The police they took me down Maindee
But they had to let me go cos I'm in the GLC
Joe le Taxi, c'est ca vie
That's the way we dos it in the GLC
Some drivers have a laugh, some drivers don't talk much
Some of them are Asian, And some of them are Dutch
To get me safely home don't cost that much
And the heated leather seats are a luxury touch
There were five us but I couldn't see the fuss
Cos Dragon's got the seven-seater-scum bus
With banging tunes and leather seats
I pass the driver a CD with GLC beats"
Quote by awayman
Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
Mal
wink

Guns don't kill people, rappers do...
What a stupid statement.
SHould you not moedrate yourself for that? Presumably they don't do irony on mod land... lol
Why?
If you have a problem with the moderators, take it to PM. Public spats are so last year.
Mal
Quote by Mal
Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
Mal
wink

Guns don't kill people, rappers do...
What a stupid statement.
SHould you not moedrate yourself for that? Presumably they don't do irony on mod land... lol
Why?
If you have a problem with the moderators, take it to PM. Public spats are so last year.
Mal
I haven't Mal, I was trying to make light of an apparent sense of humour failure.
Sorry...
Humour? On here ?.........where exactly?
People are getting scared to express anything. wink