ukip on the rise

3 May 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
It says much about the electorate that so many votes were given to a party with no economic policy.

You still scaremongering TH? lol

Cameron's interviews today have been a total reverse on his thoughts of a few weeks ago. What a numpty and now is the time for the people to kick him and his party out of office.

Quote by Too Hot
Those who voted for UKIP have, by default, stated that they don't care about the economy, unemployment and the deficit. Is it because they believe that coming out of Europe will magic away all of those problems?

Well you have definitely got something in common with Cameron, as you're another one that just does not get it..........do you?

Quote by Too Hot
God help us at the next election if people vote for a political party without any economic policies. Then again, we can at least be assured of some savage cuts and extreme austerity measures from UKIP - that much they have stated.

Yawn and yawn again TH. You're just saying the same old things. I have asked you for proof before but you was sadly lacking with anything constructive. I would, and so would many others think, God help us indeed if we were to get another 5 years of humbug policies from Cameron and his ilk.
As has been pointed out already, more local elections next year AND Euro elections which means plenty of time for the Tory's to fall further behind. You're not listening and sadly neither are the other poor delusional Tories. Same old same old mate.
Times are a changing in the UK, and you still don't get why.
I am simply asking what are their economic policies? If they have none (yet) when will they have policies and if they have none (yet) why would anyone vote for a Party that does not know what they are going to do. It is not about me proving anything it is about a political party saying what they are going to do about the UK economy so that people can make an informed decision.
If I said that taxes were way too high and you should vote for me you have to be a bit of a knob to vote for me without understanding what I was going to do about high taxes.
If the truth be known, I am really looking forward to hearing the policy when it finally gets published because an awful lot of people are going to need a very stiff drink. The baby leopard does not even look like a leopard and is oh so cuddly and playful.

3 May 2013

Quote by Too Hot
I am simply asking what are their economic policies? If they have none (yet) when will they have policies and if they have none (yet) why would anyone vote for a Party that does not know what they are going to do. It is not about me proving anything it is about a political party saying what they are going to do about the UK economy so that people can make an informed decision.

They have policies but sadly you neither want to see them, or simply scoff and scorn at them, the same mistake the others have made. I bet you also thought they were clowns and closet racists. :doh:

Quote by Too Hot
If I said that taxes were way too high and you should vote for me you have to be a bit of a knob to vote for me without understanding what I was going to do about high taxes.

As I have stated already and that comment proves it......you simply don't get it at all.

Quote by Too Hot
If the truth be known, I am really looking forward to hearing the policy when it finally gets published because an awful lot of people are going to need a very stiff drink. The baby leopard does not even look like a leopard and is oh so cuddly and playful.

So the Labour party promise the electorate a referendum on Europe, and then go back on that. Cameron also stated he would do the same BEFORE he became PM. Once in he also turned his back on that promise. He of course now is saying yet again he will give the public one but after he gets in at the next election

:rotflmao::rotflmao: Does he really think the electorate are that fucking stupid?
The only reason he offered that was because of UKIP, and now he is only yesterday I think it was saying that he would make it law for a referendum to happen. He is a fucking liar TH, as he has no real plans to give us fuck all. He promises this and that as Labour did, but they all bottled it. Why? Because it would be an out vote, they know it and the public know it. We in the majority want out of Europe, and you and people like you cannot see why.
You are just hitting shadows TH. UKIP has done the first part today, and next year will be part 2. After that the General election will see them in some kind of position of real power. Best start packing TH.

3 May 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
As I have stated already and that comment proves it......you simply don't get it at all.

get what?? that joe public shouldn't really be allowed to vote because they haven't got a clue when it comes to understanding economics.

Quote by starlightcouple
So the Labour party promise the electorate a referendum on Europe, and then go back on that. Cameron also stated he would do the same BEFORE he became PM. Once in he also turned his back on that promise. He of course now is saying yet again he will give the public one but after he gets in at the next election :rotflmao::rotflmao: Does he really think the electorate are that fucking stupid?

Hopefully this is the wake up call to all the major parties to show that the electorate are "fucking stupid" and they need to address this sooner rather than later!

Quote by starlightcouple
The only reason he offered that was because of UKIP, and now he is only yesterday I think it was saying that he would make it law for a referendum to happen. He is a fucking liar TH, as he has no real plans to give us fuck all. He promises this and that as Labour did, but they all bottled it. Why? Because it would be an out vote, they know it and the public know it. We in the majority want out of Europe, and you and people like you cannot see why.

We struggle with people who can not grasp the simple market economy and can not understand how they can be so blind!

Quote by starlightcouple
You are just hitting shadows TH. UKIP has done the first part today, and next year will be part 2. After that the General election will see them in some kind of position of real power. Best start packing TH.

you need to be really afraid star of what will happen if they get in and form any sort of government.

3 May 2013

Yada yada Rogue.
Allowing people the vote is democracy in it's purest form. What are you so afraid of Rogue? :bounce:
I presume that you are like Flower where only the smart ones can vote? But what is so scary is that people like you two get to choose who votes and who gets thrown into the garbage bin? Nope that is not how it works in the UK, that may work in Columbia or Cuba, but here in the West we have a way of deciding who is in and who is out, and that word is democracy. Don't tell me that a good old rockin and rollin Tory wants something else other than democracy??? Shame on you Rogue.

3 May 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
. Best start packing TH.

Quote by flower411
What's that supposed to mean ?

Was that aimed at you? Wind ya neck in and I am sure that TH will explain all.

3 May 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
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They have policies but sadly you neither want to see them, or simply scoff and scorn at them, the same mistake the others have made. I bet you also thought they were clowns and closet racists. :doh:

So where are their economic policies? Please tell me because I do want to understand how UKIP are going to fix the economy. I have been on their website and there are some pretty stirring popular statements but nowhere is there anything about economic policies.
Shall I just do what you and others have done? Just agree with foot stomping and say everything is going to be ok now?
It would appear that in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

3 May 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Yada yada Rogue.
Allowing people the vote is democracy in it's purest form. What are you so afraid of Rogue? :bounce:
I presume that you are like Flower where only the smart ones can vote? But what is so scary is that people like you two get to choose who votes and who gets thrown into the garbage bin? Nope that is not how it works in the UK, that may work in Columbia or Cuba, but here in the West we have a way of deciding who is in and who is out, and that word is democracy. Don't tell me that a good old rockin and rollin Tory wants something else other than democracy??? Shame on you Rogue.

You are going to feel really, really silly when UKIP finally do come clean about their economic policies Star. Of that I have no doubt at all.

3 May 2013

Quote by flower411
It was posted on a public forum . I wondered what you meant by it but as usual you won't answer a simple question.

Yes it was posted on a public forum, and your point is what exactly? Oh that I have to answer a question just because YOU ask it? Yeah right. :notes: Will make a little note of that.
It is still a no though.:grin:

3 May 2013

Quote by Too Hot
You are going to feel really, really silly when UKIP finally do come clean about their economic policies Star. Of that I have no doubt at all.

Well they seem to be making all the right noises TH, have you seen the gains today? Oh have you seen the losses of the Tories today?
Wait until the Euro elections next year TH, I reckon they will do even better. If they have no economic policies and are a bunch of fruitcakes and racists, I really do not see why you are getting all worked up about them, unless of course you are a tad worried like Cameron and his mates are. lol

4 May 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

You are going to feel really, really silly when UKIP finally do come clean about their economic policies Star. Of that I have no doubt at all.

:lol:
Smears and lies about UKIP, whilst the Tories make out they are the party to save the world...........No sorry that was Gordon Brown who said that I think. Another delusional politician who treated the voters as bigots and idiots, where Cameron just treats them like idiots.
You must have missed it in my earlier posts...
You seem to feel that UKIP have an economic policy but you are not telling us what it is or even where we can find it. Perhaps you are one of rabble rousers who voted on soundbytes simply because there is no economic policy.
All I know from leaks and slip ups is that:
1) They propose more and severe austerity cuts (good idea)
2) They plan to cut the highest rate of tax (good idea)
3) They plan to abolish NI (good idea)
What else?......... Please enlighten me.
Edited to add....
Just been on the UKIP web site and the tax policy has been changed to a tax "proposal"?
.....Taxation needs to be drastically reduced but only alongside equally drastic cuts in public spending......
....The burden of taxation must be lifted from the middle Britain wealth creators.....
...... The flat rate of 25% ensures people are motivated to work as hard and as long as they wish without seeing confiscatory levels of government tax..........
(about flat rate tax).....Why is it not applied by every government? The main reason is the popular notion that the rich should pay more tax. This blunt notion causes government to adopt popular rather than rational policies.......
... High tax rates that discriminate against the most successful entrepreneurs cause shrinkage of the tax base together with a rising tax requirement for welfare etc. the result is a spiral of decline and an inevitable economic crisis – excessive government borrowing, high inflation and high unemployment.....
I must say that a tax cut (for me) of about 20% will be very welcome indeed. I just wonder why Cameron has been slated for giving a 5% tax cut from the higher rate when this would be effectively a 20% cut? Also I thought that UKIP had recently gone away from flat rate back to tier? maybe flat rate is back on the agenda again.

4 May 2013

Quote by Too Hot
All I know from leaks and slip ups is that:
1) They propose more and severe austerity cuts (good idea)
2) They plan to cut the highest rate of tax (good idea)
3) They plan to abolish NI (good idea)

Leaks and slips ups from their political opponents no doubt. rolleyes

Probably the same ones that were doing the smears as well eh? It is bloody hilarious.

:rotflmao::rotflmao:

Quote by Too Hot
What else?......... Please enlighten me.

Blimey TH I am impressed that immigration was not at the top of your list this time but....Don't forget the biggest vote winners of all and why they have done so well recently, to stop further immigration and to get the hell out of that madhouse that is the European Union. Union my arse, just a collection of money grabbing swindlers who revel in their own PR.
You highlight some bits above which you seem to agree with, but why post anything if you have only heard "leaks and slip ups ", remember talk costs lives my friend. I thought you was only interested in facts TH??? Tut tut listening to pure gossip. wink

Oh I wish they would abolish NI as the money I contribute every month into the system, would get me a damn site better cover privately.

4 May 2013

Quote by star
Oh I wish they would abolish NI as the money I contribute every month into the system, would get me a damn site better cover privately.

Would it?
Don't for one moment think that 'abolition of NI' means that people would be 'free' to choose their own private health care for the cost and 'opt out' of State provided benefits like the NHS.
What is actually meant by this is that the currently separate NI And Taxation Departments would be merged (in the same way that VAT and Tax were a few years ago) to save administration costs and duplication. To say that this would reduce the amount of tax paid by individuals would indicate a degree of naively.
People already have the opportunity to arrange private health cover (as indeed private education for their kids) but AFAIK they receive no tax credit for doing so.
Just as an aside, not long after tax and VAT were merged, the rate went up...
Merging Tax, VAT and NI into one Department would make one very huge and almost unmanageable machine of government.

4 May 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Blimey TH I am impressed that immigration was not at the top of your list this time but....Don't forget the biggest vote winners of all and why they have done so well recently, to stop further immigration and to get the hell out of that madhouse that is the European Union. Union my arse, just a collection of money grabbing swindlers who revel in their own PR.

Are you deliberately attempting to look silly?
ECONOMIC POLICY
Not immigration or Europe - what is their ECONOMIC POLICY?
You and seemingly many other sheep have followed a shepherd who says that if we deal with the immigrant problem and get out of Europe all of our economic problems will magic away. Anyone with even a few remaining brain cells know that this is not the answer to the economic crisis - so what is the ECONOMIC POLICY to fix the economy?
Their tax proposal is deliberately vague because they have no idea. How bizarre that so many sheep follow a shepherd who has no economic plan to fix this shattered economy?....
I might not agree with what Cameron is doing, I certainly don't like the Labour and Liberal alternatives - but at least they are open about their economic proposals - but what about UKIP? - NO ECONOMIC POLICY! No way to fix the economy therefore a waste of time - until such time as they open up.
BTW - I take it you are aware of their current statement that immigration is under review? The previously suggested cap of 50,000 a year is suggested to be raised to 100,000 a year - more than what we have at the moment.

4 May 2013

Quote by flower411
. Best start packing TH.

What's that supposed to mean ?
He can't help himself Flower... Don't worry, I dont think that is suggesting that my wife is going to be chased out of the UK by brown shirted UKIP supporters.

4 May 2013

Quote by Too Hot
Are you deliberately attempting to look silly?
ECONOMIC POLICY
Not immigration or Europe - what is their ECONOMIC POLICY?

I am not going to do the searching for you TH........it is out there so find it.

Quote by Too Hot
You and seemingly many other sheep have followed a shepherd who says that if we deal with the immigrant problem and get out of Europe all of our economic problems will magic away. Anyone with even a few remaining brain cells know that this is not the answer to the economic crisis - so what is the ECONOMIC POLICY to fix the economy?

Well it may not sit well with you politically but it sits very well with lots of other people. If YOU don't like it then you also have the vote, so I really cannot see why you constantly throw your dummy out of the pram over UKIP. You yourself and indeed your own party used smear tactics and scaremongering, to try and stop the UKIP votes, but sadly after years of being in power the electorate in huge numbers, have at last seen the three parties for what they really are....Thieves and liars and frauds.

Quote by Too Hot
Their tax proposal is deliberately vague because they have no idea. How bizarre that so many sheep follow a shepherd who has no economic plan to fix this shattered economy?....

Yes and who fecking broke it is the first place? Now you're not going to blame UKIP for that one as well are you? Labour broke it big time and the Tory's have done nothing new other than to stick it to the poor in the way of " pastie tax " and "bed room" tax. Maybe they should instead of sorting out the welfare system, make a bid to stop big businesses like N Power etc from with holding their taxes through tax evasion/ avoidance helped by their accountants, which makes the savings through welfare look a drop in the Ocean.

Quote by Too Hot
I might not agree with what Cameron is doing, I certainly don't like the Labour and Liberal alternatives - but at least they are open about their economic proposals - but what about UKIP? - NO ECONOMIC POLICY! No way to fix the economy therefore a waste of time - until such time as they open up.

Open about what exactly TH? They are all liars and thieves. Did Brown promise us a referendum on Europe? Is all that is in the Tory manifesto going to come to fruition? Are you really that naive or like making yourself look rather a silly billy. lol

Quote by Too Hot
BTW - I take it you are aware of their current statement that immigration is under review? The previously suggested cap of 50,000 a year is suggested to be raised to 100,000 a year - more than what we have at the moment.

Yada yada TH. I really cannot understand a person who thinks they have no plans, no economic policies, and a closet full of racists and fruit cakes, and yet seem hugely worried by them. I cannot understand why people voted Lib Dem, but I don't go on and on about it. I do not see many Labour supporters running scared of UKIP, it seems only the Tories and their supporters that are doing the slagging off, until yesterday of course when your party leader said no point slagging them off, as you have to respect why people voted for them. Maybe you should take heed of that point TH eh? Oh no you won't as you like others think the vast majority should not have the right to vote as they are thickos. Same old mate to be honest.
A bit like the Tory party, same old stories and full of hot air and very little else.

Take a long hard look Cameron as for a Eaton educated guy, you can be a bit thick at times also.

4 May 2013

just thought I'de add my point of view (or do you want us to go back and sit in the corner), and apologies if these points have already been raised, I did get to page 4 before I zipped to the end.
I am unsure of any political party that wants to pull us out of Europe. The EC is our biggest trading partner, if we pull out of Europe we will still have to comply with EC rules on trade if we want to continue to trade with them, but would have no say on those rules. Whilst we are part of the club we at least have some influence and veto's to protect our interests.
There is a sizable number of people in the UK that have sat up and listened to the UKIP message and more might look and listen if the BBC stopped using photo's of Mr Farage as grinning idiot, same type of photo's each time. BBC left wing motives ?
MrG

4 May 2013

Perspective time as only 34 council elections mid-term, out of 468 local councils across the UK and some 21,000 local councillors.
(There are 34 county councils, 32 London boroughs, 36 metropolitan councils, 238 district councils, 47 English unitary councils and the Corporation of London, 2 Scottish unitary councils, 22 Welsh unitary councils and 26 Northern Irish district councils).
Tories - 1116 elected, lost 335 councillors
Labour - 538 elected, gained 291 councillors
LibDems - 352 elected, lost 124 councillors
UKIP - 17 elected, gained 139 councillors
Greens - 22 elected, gained 5
Others - 187 elected, gained 24
In answer to these results Theresa May insists the Tories can win back all those that deserted them by telling other Tories, calling for their 'planned' EU Referendum to be brought forward, they were wrong and that the public just wanted greater certainty that a Referendum would happen by the end of 2017 if they won the next general election, though that's only a pledge and not a promise (For definition of a pledge just ask Nick Clegg on tuition fees). However Sarah Newton, the Conservative Party deputy chairman, said the government should consider bringing forward the legislation in this parliament that would guarantee a referendum.
Like their economic policy, do they actually have a policy ?
Granted speaking of policy, can see very little mention of '2 jobs Osborne' in the news, so is he distancing himself from his unofficial role as Cameron's most trusted political stragegist and advisor and leaving all this to Grant Shapps and Lynton Crosby ?
(To be honest making him have that role officially instead of Chancellor might be an improvement, economically and politically)

4 May 2013

Quote by HnS
Granted speaking of policy, can see very little mention of '2 jobs Osborne' in the news,

Is that the man who said it would be a " devastating blow to Britain " to lose it's triple AAA rating? The guy is a gambler and nothing else really. The economy just by a smidge escaped a triple dip recession last week, and he is gambling on the austerity package being his get out of jail card.
It may work but then again it may not work, only time will tell but the borrowing of the UK is forever going skywards no matter what he says.

4 May 2013

Star...
You don't want to point me to the UKIP economic policy ... Why don't you just tell me what it is...
Just a quick summary.
Thanks
PS has it not occurred to you that as a person with pretty extreme right wing views UKIP "should" be a natural Party for me to support? Until they come up with credible economic policies they are nothing more than an irritation to the conventional political landscape. When they get serious, so will I. Until then UKIP can gloat in the satisfaction that they are fooling only the fools.

4 May 2013

Quote by Too Hot
Star...
You don't want to point me to the UKIP economic policy ... Why don't you just tell me what it is...
Just a quick summary.
Thanks

:laughabove:

Quote by Too Hot
PS has it not occurred to you that as a person with pretty extreme right wing views UKIP "should" be a natural Party for me to support? Until they come up with credible economic policies they are nothing more than an irritation to the conventional political landscape. When they get serious, so will I. Until then UKIP can gloat in the satisfaction that they are fooling only the fools.

Well Cameron is worried and that's a fact matey. For the leader of the Tory party who not long ago dismissed them as nothings, he certainly has changed his flipping tune after yesterdays results.

:rotflmao::rotflmao:
I think they have shown how serious they are, it is just people like you dismiss them with contempt. You have been warned. I think the people who voted for them would find it very offensive being labelled " fools ". Got a smear to add there as well TH? :bounce::bounce:

4 May 2013

Ukip is only being voted for in the main by those that are pissed off with the other three/
The party I voted for was the green party for exactly the same reason and the last thing I am is a supporter of the green party and its loony policies but its my way of trying to say fuck off to the others

4 May 2013

I finally found someone prepared to analyse UKIP economic policy - Nick Tyrone from Total Politics said...
"Let’s quickly look at what UKIP economic policy is exactly. In their 2010 manifesto Nigel and his crew said that if they won a majority in the House of Commons they would eliminate progressive tax codes and replace them with a flat tax of 31 per cent to kick in on all personal income over £11,500. They would get public spending down to pre-1997 levels by eliminating two million jobs in the public sector..
The other million receiving their P45s from the public purse would go on to find jobs in the private sector “created as a result of lower personal taxes and reduced business taxation and regulation”. UKIP have bought into the economics of the far right of the Conservative party, the Tories at their most nakedly neo-liberal. "
So the leaks were right:
1) massive tax cut for the rich
2) massive austerity measure - cutting 2,000,000 jobs from the public sector
3) assume that the two measures above will create a huge private sector expansion
Now if they could just prove to us that leaving the EU would not damage our exports... As an earlier poster said, we would still want to trade with EU but would not have any further influence on trade negotiations. Tough call.

5 May 2013

Quote by flower411
To be honest ....I wasn't entirely sure about the brownshirts... but sometimes it's best to ask when people make comments like that !!

Like that???? What the feck you on about? Looking for trouble when none is there as per.

Quote by flower411
Weirdly, he has refused point blank to explain what he meant !!

Nothing weird about it, just not explaining anything to YOU. Can't be any clearer than that.

5 May 2013

One hundred and twenty thousand million a year (120 billion) shortfall in UKIP economic plan. The response - more savings through Government spending.
Austerity? You ain't seen nothing yet!
Then again Neil Hamilton did say exactly this on Question Time a few weeks ago.

5 May 2013

Quote by Too Hot
One hundred and twenty thousand million a year (120 billion) shortfall in UKIP economic plan. The response - more savings through Government spending.
Austerity? You ain't seen nothing yet!
Then again Neil Hamilton did say exactly this on Question Time a few weeks ago.

Where did you get these " facts " from TH? Not more smears and scaremongering tactics? If this were true don't you really think Cameron and the Tories would have used this information last week BEFORE the local elections, and more importantly why you have not picked up on that before now, coming from someone who could find nothing over the last week. lol

5 May 2013

The UKIP PR firm have to be commended, they've certainly done their job this time round with all the 'furore' Nigel Farage and his motely crew have created, this thread being no exception.
Essentially I see it as UKIP although not a party of power (if ever they will be) but one who who will determine by virtue of the 'protest vote' that the next Govt will again be a coalition and again with the Lib Dems cos Cons/Labour wont happen....in fact I'd go so far as to say the Lib Dems must be secretly sitting back and loving the current UKIP debate.
2015 will be an interesting year in UK Politics

6 May 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
One hundred and twenty thousand million a year (120 billion) shortfall in UKIP economic plan. The response - more savings through Government spending.
Austerity? You ain't seen nothing yet!
Then again Neil Hamilton did say exactly this on Question Time a few weeks ago.

What we do know is getting out of Europe will mean a saving of 6.5 billion pounds a year. Obviously if Cameron was not focusing on UKIP's policies, he was probably spending his energy on getting gay marriage through Parliament, and more wind farms and clawing back a few pennies from people with a spare bedroom. He has certainly got his priorities a bit skewed, and the voters have clearly and concisely let him know in no uncertain terms .
It was on Sunday morning politics and indeed the main Parties were being chastised by the journo for allowing UKIP to get away with unsubstantiated policies so easily.
It is evidenced through history that a swathe of the population will jump on the bandwagon of populist politics because they don't have the mindset capable of understanding the policies. It should be the job of the journalist and not the job of politicians to expose shortcomings in my opinion. That is the whole problem with British politics one party criticising another instead of focusing on their own issues.
The saving of 6.5 billion is a drop in the ocean of the 1 we spend. Don't spare too many thoughts about austerity measures yet Star... You will see soon enough that bedroom taxes and pasty taxes are an irrelevance compared to what UKIP have in store. Just the sacking of 2,000,000 civil servants will be bad enough... But that is only the beginning.

6 May 2013

Thing is....the economic policy of UKIP is irrelevant as they are not a serious party that thinks it will ever have power.....it is simply a pressure group, that is trying and it seems succeeding to highlight the publics disenchantment with immigration and Europe.
To be honest it is always the same in difficult times, we all turn and blame Jhonny foreigner. The worst thing that can be done is a knee jerk reaction , and try and copy the policys to be popular. I saw " on your bike " Tebbitt " saying that UKIP were 99% full of real Tory policys and they should take them on board. Mr Cameroon needs to hold his nerve, and it is one time I am glad there is Mr Clegg there and his Liberals who will be slowing that move down.
Come the general election...people will say " UKIP " who !!!

6 May 2013

I agree with you Dean but what scares me is that UKIP is popular enough to make a difference to how people think and approach party policies. What I mean is that UKIP I think its fair to say are quite right of centre hmm maybe even quite right of the current right you could say.
In all honesty the likelihood of them ever governing this country is negligible to insignificant in the extreme but their ability to influence the policies of those which will be governing us is substantial as the other parties will have to court those now voting UKIP with something that sounds akin to UKIPS policies to entice them back to the mainstream,.
All sort of garbled this I know, so in a nutshell, it looks like all relevant British political parties could take big step to the right, through the influence of UKIP, and THATS scary. The one thing that this country doesn't need is UKIP

6 May 2013

As someone with pretty right wing views I like much of UKIP policy apart from that which is said to be populist - immigration and Europe. I think that ithey are ill thought out but the economic policies of big tax cuts and big austerity cuts sit with my naturally Thatcherite mentality. I just wish that they would publish something concrete so that their policies can be properly scrutinised and costed out. No point in cheering about massive tax cuts and more spending on the NHS and Defence if it means that most of the public sector workforce is going to be out of work and unemployment touching 5,000,000.