Quote by kentswingers777
Can you not expand the logic?
I, and other forumites fought a 4/5 day long running battle on a thread in 'nillaville recently with a bunch of people- one in particular likened swinging to Paedophillia- who considered "us" to be lesser people, lesser parents, and lesser partners.
I think to say swinging is likened to paedophillia is a strange one indeed, and one I think is a comment of a mad person.
Mad people in your eyes, but they are living the so called normal life.
You need to ask yourself why you would not tell family and friends why you swing or let Mrs play with other men.
Or are the people you know mad too?
Or do you think they would judge you as you are judging others as you believe what you are doing isn't normal?
This is simply another side to the same coin.
Yes it is but on a slightly stranger scale
It is only a stranger scale because what you believe you are doing is ok
Consider this, your kids are still at school- and your nocturnal activities get found out by the local busybody. It gets out. It spreads around the school like wildfire. Your kids are ostracised. Suddenly, the sleepover is off. They're bullied. The party invitation is withdrawn...their lives are hell.
Whats to blame? Your sexual choices, surely? Or the small mindedness of the people and their reactions?
A bit of everything I think. I do not bother too much about peoples small mindedness or their reactions. Our sexual choices are ours to make, but obviously do not expect others to think it is ok. I do not think that being a swinger will result in sleepover being cancelled, or my kids being sent to Coventry...I may be wrong though but think most people would just wish they were swingers.
You do bother about small mindedness or you would tell people what you do, instead of hiding it.
I had a thread going once about telling our children that we swing. I said I would when they get to an age of understanding and can explain the reasons and why we thought it would be good for us. I seem to remeber you totally disagreeing with me at that time. As what impact that would have on them.
I know my children would not judge us as my mum and a couple of friends I have told haven't.
How do I know that I guess you would ask, because I have raised my children to accept people in life, not to judge others but ask themselves why someone would react the way they have, by finding out about people and not to think all peopla are like ourselves.
With gay people- they haven't even chosen to be gay. They just are. Are they lesser people for it? Less able to parent?
I never said they were less able to parent, nor are they lesser people because of it.
Mother nature intended than the product of M + F = B. Mother nature also made gays. I'd prefer, as it happens, that Fred & Bob took on a child from within the care system- but I'd also prefer Arthur & Sally to do that too.
That's a fair comment
You can't say in one breath that you're not homophobic- but deny two gay people the right to procreate with "help" that you'd give to straight people.
Yes I can. It does not make me or anybody else homophobic just because we do not agree with a child being brought up in a gay relationship. I simply asked will the child suffer because of it? I stand by what I said and I think they will. That may make me homophobioc is some peoples eyes, but I think that if you do not agree that is what people will label me, and so be it.
We can all have our own preferances what we ourselves like and how we conduct our own lives, but we can not expect everyone to be like us.
The child will grow up thinking their live is normal until someone points out it isn't. The person that points that out will be the person that expects everyone to be like them, they will be the person that has been bought up to think they are right as seeing it as wrong. I am thankful that it would not be one of my child that points that out, as they know not everyone is like them and dont expect them to be.
I have gay friends who'd make fab dads. I have straight friends who would make lousy parents. I have straight friends who'd make fab parents. If they fell into the "fab" category, I'd donate eggs etc to them regardless of gender. My decision would be based on their ability to parent.
I never said about parenting skills, purely that the child will suffer from bullying and horrid comments because of it. How do I know who would make good parents....look at baby P's Mother.
Would you advocate people not breeding because they were likely to have kids with ginger hair? Be too tall? Too short?
That is a silly comment as well you know and one which I will not bother to comment on.
I would have thought you would have said you would expect parents to parent and take responsibily for their own child. After all a parent is the person that is there for their children, through their lives, that loves them, cares for them, is intrested in making sure they conduct themselves well in society. As you know there does not have to be a blood tie to be a real Mum or Dad you just have to want to be a parent for the sake of the child, with the childs best intrests at heart.
All of these things are as likely to result in bullying as having gay parents. Extend the logic.
Yes they are and on that comment, you obviously class being brought up by gay parents as a possible means for that child to be bullied?
Phew......there were a few there Witchy.
Anything else let me know.
I just thought I would join this debate, sorry for sticking my nose in witcy and 777.
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