So St. Georges day is nearly upon us.
This survey suggests that we are the least patriotic in Europe?
Well I will be flying the flag from my car as am proud to be English.
Lets hope we do not get to hear abour barmy councils banning anything this year, as nobody I know is the least bit offended by this day.
Fly the flag and be proud and rejoice, lets be fair not much to be happy about at the moment. So will YOU fly the flag?
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Will YOU be flying the flag?
Sex God
Yes....
I have some flags to attach to the car windows :-)
I have some flags to attach to the car windows :-)
Sex God
Flying a flag on St George's day is the same as buying flowers for your wife on St Valentine's Day. Why just that day? If that day, why not every day?
I personally don't feel any need to fly a flag on any day. I know where I live - I don't need to remind myself every day and I certainly wouldn't consider standing there with my hand on my heart singing to it. (wtf is THAT all about anyway?)
I feel absolutely NO affinity with this George feller, we have a number of far more suitable saints - St Edmund being one of the more appropriate candidates.
So, no I won't be flying any flags and it is nothing to do with any lack of patriotism.
I personally don't feel any need to fly a flag on any day. I know where I live - I don't need to remind myself every day and I certainly wouldn't consider standing there with my hand on my heart singing to it. (wtf is THAT all about anyway?)
I feel absolutely NO affinity with this George feller, we have a number of far more suitable saints - St Edmund being one of the more appropriate candidates.
So, no I won't be flying any flags and it is nothing to do with any lack of patriotism.
Sex God
I shall fly this one, there I have done it!
Sex God
no but only because i think the car ones look tacky and childish not judging anyone who does just i don't want them on our car
but i will be wearing a red rose and i will wish anyone i talk to friend or stranger and friends via txt happy st georges day
i don't buy into the sending cards bit either thats just blatant comercialism
i do think we should mark it in some way but not going out n just gettin pissed we aren't irish so why try and compete in the gettin pissed stakes we will never win that one as i'm certain they would love pointing out
i don't buy into all this we should have a diff saint he is who we were saddled with so just get over it and embrace who we got
i do agree you don't have to shout it from the rooftops or wave flags to be patriotic you can be incredibly proud of who you are and where your from without all that
but i will be wearing a red rose and i will wish anyone i talk to friend or stranger and friends via txt happy st georges day
i don't buy into the sending cards bit either thats just blatant comercialism
i do think we should mark it in some way but not going out n just gettin pissed we aren't irish so why try and compete in the gettin pissed stakes we will never win that one as i'm certain they would love pointing out
i don't buy into all this we should have a diff saint he is who we were saddled with so just get over it and embrace who we got
i do agree you don't have to shout it from the rooftops or wave flags to be patriotic you can be incredibly proud of who you are and where your from without all that
(got to buy one tho cus i cant find any iv had in the past)Can someone please define for me what "being patriotic" actually means?
Does it mean slagging off the Nation and its governments?
Does it mean moaning about the laws and rules in the country?
Does it mean picking fault in everything thats happened and finding someone to blame?
Does it mean disagreeing with who the actual "Saint for the day" is
If so, there are people in this forum who are so patriotic it must hurt!!!
Why do people feel that waving a flag and saying they are patriotic for 1 day a year actually makes them patriotic, when the rest of the time the self same people are running down everything to do with England and saying how they wish they lived elsewhere or even do live elsewhere it just stinks to me!
I wont be going out getting pissed, putting a cheap tacky flag on my car or wearing a ridiculous hat but that does not mean i am not patriotic, i love my country and would without hesitation die for my country and i dont need 1 day a year to show it.
Maybe if the oh so patriotic of this country got off there arses and did something to make the place we live in a better more friendly place to live, maybe did some volountry work or work in there community with people who need it, without recompense, others would follow and patriotism would then strengthen?
Does it mean slagging off the Nation and its governments?
Does it mean moaning about the laws and rules in the country?
Does it mean picking fault in everything thats happened and finding someone to blame?
Does it mean disagreeing with who the actual "Saint for the day" is
If so, there are people in this forum who are so patriotic it must hurt!!!
Why do people feel that waving a flag and saying they are patriotic for 1 day a year actually makes them patriotic, when the rest of the time the self same people are running down everything to do with England and saying how they wish they lived elsewhere or even do live elsewhere it just stinks to me!
I wont be going out getting pissed, putting a cheap tacky flag on my car or wearing a ridiculous hat but that does not mean i am not patriotic, i love my country and would without hesitation die for my country and i dont need 1 day a year to show it.
Maybe if the oh so patriotic of this country got off there arses and did something to make the place we live in a better more friendly place to live, maybe did some volountry work or work in there community with people who need it, without recompense, others would follow and patriotism would then strengthen?
Sex God
Quote by Kaznkev
Can someone please define for me what "being patriotic" actually means?
Does it mean slagging off the Nation and its governments?
Does it mean moaning about the laws and rules in the country?
Does it mean picking fault in everything thats happened and finding someone to blame?
Does it mean disagreeing with who the actual "Saint for the day" is
If so, there are people in this forum who are so patriotic it must hurt!!!
Why do people feel that waving a flag and saying they are patriotic for 1 day a year actually makes them patriotic, when the rest of the time the self same people are running down everything to do with England and saying how they wish they lived elsewhere or even do live elsewhere it just stinks to me!
I wont be going out getting pissed, putting a cheap tacky flag on my car or wearing a ridiculous hat but that does not mean i am not patriotic, i love my country and would without hesitation die for my country and i dont need 1 day a year to show it.
Maybe if the oh so patriotic of this country got off there arses and did something to make the place we live in a better more friendly place to live, maybe did some volountry work or work in there community with people who need it, without recompense, others would follow and patriotism would then strengthen?
:thumbup:
can't mean me cause i is perfect :smug:
Quote by kentswingers777
Now how did I know this thread was going to go down this route....no suprises at all.:shock:
What route? i asked a question.............. define patriotic? you started the thread so i assumed i would get an answer from you with regards my question?
Or do i assume that patriotism is indeed sticking a tacky flag on my car/house and pretending to be a true Englishman/woman for the day???????!?!?!?!?!!?
Quote by bouncy332
Can someone please define for me what "being patriotic" actually means?
Does it mean slagging off the Nation and its governments?
Does it mean moaning about the laws and rules in the country?
Does it mean picking fault in everything thats happened and finding someone to blame?
Does it mean disagreeing with who the actual "Saint for the day" is
If so, there are people in this forum who are so patriotic it must hurt!!!
Why do people feel that waving a flag and saying they are patriotic for 1 day a year actually makes them patriotic, when the rest of the time the self same people are running down everything to do with England and saying how they wish they lived elsewhere or even do live elsewhere it just stinks to me!
I wont be going out getting pissed, putting a cheap tacky flag on my car or wearing a ridiculous hat but that does not mean i am not patriotic, i love my country and would without hesitation die for my country and i dont need 1 day a year to show it.
Maybe if the oh so patriotic of this country got off there arses and did something to make the place we live in a better more friendly place to live, maybe did some volountry work or work in there community with people who need it, without recompense, others would follow and patriotism would then strengthen?
:thumbup:
can't mean me cause i is perfect :smug:
You sure is perfect lady!X!X
The irony of this is that England is different from the other home countries - the English in effect took them over and then a large part of the farther away world too, but in recent years that has rebounded.
Further, very few people are now pure English (I have Scots and Irish blood as well as English) and it seems pointless to celebrate St Georges day to me - so NO.
Plim
Further, very few people are now pure English (I have Scots and Irish blood as well as English) and it seems pointless to celebrate St Georges day to me - so NO.
Plim
Sex God
It would seem that my blood line arrived here following the Norman Conquest of 1066, but it seams a life time ago now and we hardly ever make reference to it these days 
Sex God
Quote by Plimboy
The irony of this is that England is different from the other home countries - the English in effect took them over and then a large part of the farther away world too, but in recent years that has rebounded.
Further, very few people are now pure English (I have Scots and Irish blood as well as English) and it seems pointless to celebrate St Georges day to me - so NO.
Plim
There's no such thing as 'pure English'. The earliest dwellers of this country (Celts) came through Europe and the Middle East from Africa originally. And everyone since has arrived from somewhere - wave upon wave of people coming to this (and pretty well every other) country to enrich it and change it.
Unless we are going to say - for instance - 7 generations on both sides have been born here defines you as English. Or some such other totally arbitrary measure.
That's daft. For me, English is a personal choice not defined by anyone else's rules. Born here is ample. Lived here a long time is enough. Preferring to live here rather than anywhere else will do - so long as it goes with a sense of 'joining in'. And it doesn't need to be joining in with what I do - it's about joining in with whatever local or wider community they choose. A very broad definition granted - but I'm happy with it.
And I still reckon St George is a meaningless patron saint simply because he had absolutely nothing to do with England in his life.
Sex God
Quote by foxylady2209
The irony of this is that England is different from the other home countries - the English in effect took them over and then a large part of the farther away world too, but in recent years that has rebounded.
Further, very few people are now pure English (I have Scots and Irish blood as well as English) and it seems pointless to celebrate St Georges day to me - so NO.
Plim
There's no such thing as 'pure English'. The earliest dwellers of this country (Celts) came through Europe and the Middle East from Africa originally. And everyone since has arrived from somewhere - wave upon wave of people coming to this (and pretty well every other) country to enrich it and change it.
Unless we are going to say - for instance - 7 generations on both sides have been born here defines you as English. Or some such other totally arbitrary measure.
That's daft. For me, English is a personal choice not defined by anyone else's rules. Born here is ample. Lived here a long time is enough. Preferring to live here rather than anywhere else will do - so long as it goes with a sense of 'joining in'. And it doesn't need to be joining in with what I do - it's about joining in with whatever local or wider community they choose. A very broad definition granted - but I'm happy with it.
And I still reckon St George is a meaningless patron saint simply because he had absolutely nothing to do with England in his life.
I have a very simple test to see if one is English, I suspect people will jump all over me for this but here goes;
If born in England you are English....too simplistic?
Sex God
I may be wrong Foxy but I was under the impression that the picts were the earliest occupants of our fair country...and that ironically the purest pictish blood is to be found in Wales
Of course I shan't be flying the flag....it is a piece of cloth and has little or nothing to do with the country I live in,and latterly laden with symbolism that I have no wish to support.
Of course I shan't be flying the flag....it is a piece of cloth and has little or nothing to do with the country I live in,and latterly laden with symbolism that I have no wish to support.
Sex God
Quote by jumptoit
Or do i assume that patriotism is indeed sticking a tacky flag on my car/house and pretending to be a true Englishman/woman for the day???????!?!?!?!?!!?
Just because you think it's tacky doesn't mean it is......
