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What was going on in the Labour camp in the last few months? dunno

i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:
So this was obviously right then....but more importantly was no joke.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
Quote by kentswingers777
So this was obviously right then....but more importantly was no joke.

Rhetoric
:giggle:
Quote by Bluefish2009
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying off
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying offrepudiate the debt. it was a con by international bankers and bears down on all countries regardless of which political party is in government and the condems would have done exactly the same during that period.
It was a joke ffs just like the torys' parting gift to Labour....The millenium dome.
Of course the papers are going to misrepresent it that's what they do.
*Looks for head in hands emoticon*
Quote by gulsonroad30664
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying offrepudiate the debt. it was a con by international bankers and bears down on all countries regardless of which political party is in government and the condems would have done exactly the same during that period.
there i was my best DM`s on kicking new labour when they was down and enjoying the moment when you tied my laces together :kick:
"He said he did not know which departments had asked for the letters but they would become public in due course."
I'll tell you ....defence. They commissioned several new destroyers and a couple of subs...just what the right wanted...oh the irony
Quote by gulsonroad30664
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying offrepudiate the debt. it was a con by international bankers and bears down on all countries regardless of which political party is in government and the condems would have done exactly the same during that period.
Guls you do make me chuckle.
You will never make a good banker ya know. lol
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
"He said he did not know which departments had asked for the letters but they would become public in due course."
I'll tell you ....defence. They commissioned several new destroyers and a couple of subs...just what the right wanted...oh the irony

Shame the troops in Afghan were so under equipped.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying offrepudiate the debt. it was a con by international bankers and bears down on all countries regardless of which political party is in government and the condems would have done exactly the same during that period.
there i was my best DM`s on kicking new labour when they was down and enjoying the moment when you tied my laces together :kick:
You don't, by chance drive 10 year old golf gti with a dodgy exhaust do you? :giggle:
Quote by Bluefish2009
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying offrepudiate the debt. it was a con by international bankers and bears down on all countries regardless of which political party is in government and the condems would have done exactly the same during that period.
there i was my best DM`s on kicking new labour when they was down and enjoying the moment when you tied my laces together :kick:
You don't, by chance drive 10 year old golf gti with a dodgy exhaust do you? :giggle:
couldn`t afford one of those i work for myself you know taxed to death so that the guy next door and his 5 kids can have 2 new merc`s on the state benefit lottery
a mk3 cortina for me with rostyles :giggle:
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying offrepudiate the debt. it was a con by international bankers and bears down on all countries regardless of which political party is in government and the condems would have done exactly the same during that period.
there i was my best DM`s on kicking new labour when they was down and enjoying the moment when you tied my laces together :kick:
You don't, by chance drive 10 year old golf gti with a dodgy exhaust do you? :giggle:
couldn`t afford one of those i work for myself you know taxed to death so that the guy next door and his 5 kids can have 2 new merc`s on the state benefit lottery
a mk3 cortina for me with rostyles :giggle:
That's rubbish because the Guardian says so. lol
Quote by kentswingers777
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying offrepudiate the debt. it was a con by international bankers and bears down on all countries regardless of which political party is in government and the condems would have done exactly the same during that period.
Guls you do make me chuckle.
You will never make a good banker ya know. lolwell bankers dont make good bankers either, do they ? the credit that was given that has become our debt was created out of thin air at interest and can never be repaid so repudiate it. it was and is a fraud. politicians accept the fictitous credit/debt because they do so well out of it.
when the hyenas of the city and wall street start shorting sterling like they are or have done greece, latvia, estonia, ukraine, portugal, spain, ireland, thailand, italy and any other soveriegn debt, they will bend us all over and roger us with a big financial stick. watch this space.
Quote by gulsonroad30664
i did see this
just goes to show you really couldn`t trust labour with your taxes and just how serious they took looking after our country :upset:

This was the bit that really got me;
It also puts into context the so-called jokey letter left by Liam Byrne to David Laws, his successor as Treasury chief secretary. Byrne quipped that there was no money left and wished Laws good luck.
its enough to make every tax payer weep lets hope that cameron is up to the job and the labour party is held solely responsible for the debt that our children will be paying offrepudiate the debt. it was a con by international bankers and bears down on all countries regardless of which political party is in government and the condems would have done exactly the same during that period.
Guls you do make me chuckle.
You will never make a good banker ya know. lolwell bankers dont make good bankers either, do they ? the credit that was given that has become our debt was created out of thin air at interest and can never be repaid so repudiate it. it was and is a fraud. politicians accept the fictitous credit/debt because they do so well out of it.
when the hyenas of the city and wall street start shorting sterling like they are or have done greece, latvia, estonia, ukraine, portugal, spain, ireland, thailand, italy and any other soveriegn debt, they will bend us all over and roger us with a big financial stick. watch this space.
Schhhh...........don't let Bloke know. wink
Hopefully if all this can be shown to have been wilful then the said ex ministers should be up in court charged with neglect of office or whatever they call it.
And what about the letter left saying Labour have spent all the money.
Quote by kentswingers777
"He said he did not know which departments had asked for the letters but they would become public in due course."
I'll tell you ....defence. They commissioned several new destroyers and a couple of subs...just what the right wanted...oh the irony

Shame the troops in Afghan were so under equipped.
You're right.
And who wrote the specs for what the Army needs? The Chiefs of Staff.
Who've spen tthe last 20 years since the end of the cold war still equipping our armed forces to fight a war against a Warsaw Pact that no longer exists? The Chiefs of Staff. In the real wars we've fought since 1989 Trident subs, aircraft carriers and Typhoons have been just so much bling, expensive toys for the boys who never grew up in Whitehall.
But when the shit hits the fan, and the poor bloody infantry start bearing the brunt of war what o the chiefs of staff do? Do they say 'honest guv, we didn't see that one coming?' Or do they bluster and blame the politicians.
Change the record Kenty - the politicians aren't there any more, the generals still are, and we're still wasting billions on extravagant, wasteful, fighting a war that will never happen kit. Orwell said something along the lines of 'we go into every war with equipment and plans designed to fight the last war.' It's time the military started doing some of the honest bit, and admitting they're pissing our money up the wall on the wrong kit in the wrong place for the wrong battles.
Quote by croydoncouple38
Hopefully if all this can be shown to have been wilful then the said ex ministers should be up in court charged with neglect of office or whatever they call it.
And what about the letter left saying Labour have spent all the money.

CHange the record FFS. The letter was a bad joke by a man not renowned for his sense of humour.
The letters that civil servants had signed are simple notes covering the civil servants arses, so that when the Tories got into power they wouldn't have to take the blame for anything Dave Nasty and the Provisional wing of the Eton Rifles didn't like the look of.
Listen very carefully, I will say this only once.
Dave Nasty and his gang want you to believe the crisis is worse than it is. They want to drive through larger cuts than necessary for the next two years, so they can buy your vote in the following three years with superficial tax cuts that might just get you back to where you were in the first place, if you're lucky and you've still got a job and a house. Big companies, in the meanwhile, big companies will have had their corporation tax rate reduced even further, and will be immune from the increases in VAT and indirect taxes that will fund the income tax cuts you'll be supposed to frig yourself into ecstasy over.
All of this will be cheered to the rafters b y the paper that said hooray for Hitler, Mr Top Shelf's Daily Express and of course every media outlet owned by Rupert 'only little people pay taxes' Murdoch.
Quote by croydoncouple38
Hopefully if all this can be shown to have been wilful then the said ex ministers should be up in court charged with neglect of office or whatever they call it.
And what about the letter left saying Labour have spent all the money.

the tories just wanted it in writing and the scrap of paper was all the country could afford after browns last shopping spree wink
what you are about to suffer is the result of browns spendthrift polices
grand caymen have some very nice banks you know and if you can find the right property then it makes a very good pension all tax free too :wink:
Everyone suffers in a spending-cuts government.
Loads of IT projects cancelled (but still have payments to be made on them)
Loads more road improvements cancelled (but still have penalty payments to make...)
Front-line public services ringfenced, but loads of PFI hospital (etc) projects to be re-negotiated (penalties etc)
Loads of workers soon to be non-workers, but since benefits are going to be made conditional on community projects undertaken there will soon be a raft of people who CURRENTLY do the work unemployed...
Noted that this government is to make receipt of incapacity benefit conditional on a medical assessment.....incapacity benefit was renamed Employment Support Allowance several years ago, and hence no longer exists (as such) and the medical assessments have been going-on for 3 years now...those rated as disabled will not be assessed anyway...
IR35 to be reformed.....so loads of workers who currently cannot be self-employed will qualify for self-employment soon..
Etc..
Lets look at what history teaches us shall we do not learn from it we are bound to repeat it.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
It was a joke ffs just like the torys' parting gift to Labour....The millenium dome.
Of course the papers are going to misrepresent it that's what they do.
*Looks for head in hands emoticon*

The Tories proposed a smaller one, but when Labour came to power Blair decided to increase the project on a grand scale.
Blair could have said no, he didn't, so I wouldn't have called it a parting shot by the Tories, it is not as though they 'lumbered' Labour with it.
And rather than the dome, the Government should have picked a national arena as their millenium project, and that could have done away with 2 needless projects, the millenium dome, and Wembley stadium rebuild.
The national stadium should also have been relocated, and I would say the best place would be roughly where the Ricoh stadium in Coventry sits. Good road access, and centrally placed for people north of London.
Do people "north of London" matter ?
Quote by essex34m
It was a joke ffs just like the torys' parting gift to Labour....The millenium dome.
Of course the papers are going to misrepresent it that's what they do.
*Looks for head in hands emoticon*

The Tories proposed a smaller one, but when Labour came to power Blair decided to increase the project on a grand scale.
Blair could have said no, he didn't, so I wouldn't have called it a parting shot by the Tories, it is not as though they 'lumbered' Labour with it.
And rather than the dome, the Government should have picked a national arena as their millenium project, and that could have done away with 2 needless projects, the millenium dome, and Wembley stadium rebuild.
The national stadium should also have been relocated, and I would say the best place would be roughly where the Ricoh stadium in Coventry sits. Good road access, and centrally placed for people north of London.
The notion that Coventry is convenient for those of us in the north is pants wettingly funny....