Latest manufactured Govt Stats show us at zero inflation? On whose radar?
They're always keen to use 'lower petrol prices' as an indicator and yet since the last
time they rolled out the inflation figures petrol prices have crept back up and by quite a bit, ok not as high as a year ago but higher than a few weeks/months ago.
Also, they quote lower food prices but what regard is paid to same product/same price but lower quantity? the so called 'shrinkflation' and where percentages in inflation are measured in increments of 0.1% the products being downsized are usually over and above 5%.
I'd go with the idea that consumers don't like the downsizing and would rather pay more for the same rather than pay the same for less, informed choices and all that.
Of course manufacturers will quote rising production costs, which is to a degree probably right but then those 'rising costs' would if filtered through have n affect on inflation.
I haven't noticed any difference in energy bills, what they're supposed to be giving you back is then countered by hidden costs/fees.
In this 2013 link you can see just how much some products were reduced by percentage wise
Inflation at zero? Nice try but defo no cigar.
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Zero Inflation - As if
Sex God
So if it aint goin' up how the fuck is it inflation ?? Or is sinking the new floating in political speak?
Of course we don't believe the shite they tell us anyway.
Of course we don't believe the shite they tell us anyway.
petrol should be much lower than it is. i have noticed its stuck at the current price at the pumps but what can you do, you need to use the stuff.
lower food prices?
not in my basket. what was a daily trip to get food for work has increased by 90 pence yet i am buying the same items.
it doesnt matter which supermarket you use what is cheaper this week in asda is next week in sainsburys.
talking of sainsburys they are cheeky. i was buying a drink from them which was £2. this week i went to purchase the same drink and at the checkout it was now
how does that happen?
lower food prices?
not in my basket. what was a daily trip to get food for work has increased by 90 pence yet i am buying the same items.
it doesnt matter which supermarket you use what is cheaper this week in asda is next week in sainsburys.
talking of sainsburys they are cheeky. i was buying a drink from them which was £2. this week i went to purchase the same drink and at the checkout it was now
how does that happen?
Quote by SansSouci
According to the RAC diesel is even worse. Fortunately I run mine on veg oil...
Diesel was the fuel to use on a car, good value, engines last longer blah blah, how much money the manufacturers must have invested in diesel technology and customers/fleet owners/business only for the Govt now rolling out the notion that Diesel is almost as evil as the devil himself and falls on the wrong side of all the various pollution/greenhouse gases/carbon footprint or whatever they decide to call it.
Handy that, lets rid the country of diesels and bankrupt half of those running fleets with the woman man in the street finding their vehicles worth nothing and suffering more by way of Road Tax and fuel prices.
Sex God
LPG at 60p/litre, I cant see why any company would run diesel cars or vans 
Quote by Lizaleanrob
LPG at 60p/litre, I cant see why any company would run diesel cars or vans
It would go the same way as Diesel, become popular, up goes the price. At the same time as this Most company cars are used for what? 3yrs? 5 yrs? LPG conversion 2K? (decent one) I costed one/ had one for fitted for my pops, it wasn't cheap and he wont get his money back given the miles he does but he thinks cos he's paying less at the pump he's doing himself a favour.
In this link on 16,000 miles 3 years and you get your money back? (not accounting for the below links)
Also, why not to convert
I would still favour LPG, but increased popularity will eventually result in paying more at the pump to the point where like diesel it ends up becoming more expensive.
Sex God
Quote by Toots
LPG at 60p/litre, I cant see why any company would run diesel cars or vans
It would go the same way as Diesel, become popular, up goes the price. At the same time as this Most company cars are used for what? 3yrs? 5 yrs? LPG conversion 2K? (decent one) I costed one/ had one for fitted for my pops, it wasn't cheap and he wont get his money back given the miles he does but he thinks cos he's paying less at the pump he's doing himself a favour.
In this link on 16,000 miles 3 years and you get your money back? (not accounting for the below links)
Also, why not to convert
I would still favour LPG, but increased popularity will eventually result in paying more at the pump to the point where like diesel it ends up becoming more expensive.
popycock
duel fuel is availible on most new vehicles, add the tax savings and at the moment its still half the price of diesel ??
if you think a 100k mile motor over 3 years doesn't save over a deisel then you been listening to JC with a twinkle in your eyes for too long
((((((sniggers))))))
Quote by Lizaleanrob
duel fuel is availible on most new vehicles, add the tax savings and at the moment its still half the price of diesel ??
Of course it's available but unless you have a deal the price of a bi-fuel car against it's petrol equivalent is somewhat higher
Quote by Lizaleanrob
if you think a 100k mile motor over 3 years doesn't save over a deisel then you been listening to JC with a twinkle in your eyes for too long
((((((sniggers))))))
Where did I say that? *vacant look*
What I did say is that I still favoured LPG ...The benefits are obvious but tis my belief that the costs associated with LPG such as conversion (after market) or from the factory, along with just a little bit extra servicing each year (this would cancel out most of the tax savings) along with the drop in performance thus fuel efficiency and with the price most likely increasing disproportionate to that of diesel/petrol and the fact that you still have to use petrol when owning an LPG...well they all need to be factored in, what may look from the outset to be a bargain way to drive, when studied in a little more detail may not quite be quite the 'snip that it seems.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
then you been listening to JC with a twinkle in your eyes for too long
and now he's gone, my moist spot also....
Quote by SansSouci
I'm thinking about converting my diesel to run on LPG. It depends on the price of LPG in the next few months.
Ridiculous notion, diesels don't have a spark ignition circuit and the compression ratio in a diesel engine is way to high. By the time you have paid for reducing the CR and the addition of an ignition circuit you would do better to purchase a second hand petrol engine complete!
Ah, well you see, I didn't say I was going run purely on LPG. If I fit LPG it will be as an induction kit to improve combustion of the diesel. Diesel engines burn approx 85-90% of the fuel; by adding LPG to the diesel/air mixture you can improve that to 95%, so you extract more power/energy from the diesel, plus the engine runs a lot cleaner.
Sex God
Quote by Rogue_Trader
I'm thinking about converting my diesel to run on LPG. It depends on the price of LPG in the next few months.
Ridiculous notion, diesels don't have a spark ignition circuit and the compression ratio in a diesel engine is way to high. By the time you have paid for reducing the CR and the addition of an ignition circuit you would do better to purchase a second hand petrol engine complete!
Trucks can run with gas conversions as well as normal every day cars....
They will use gas and diesel together....
We've carried out many such gas conversions on trucks where I work..
Sex God
Quote by Rogue_Trader
you could use N2O to do exactly the same thing, a cleaner burn with greater fuel efficiency i.e. more bang for your £....
Top fuelers at drag racing are notorious for running N2O and they are very efficient...... :-)
But only available in short bursts really....
Used too much can and does melt engines :shock:
Quote by Steve
I'm thinking about converting my diesel to run on LPG. It depends on the price of LPG in the next few months.
Ridiculous notion, diesels don't have a spark ignition circuit and the compression ratio in a diesel engine is way to high. By the time you have paid for reducing the CR and the addition of an ignition circuit you would do better to purchase a second hand petrol engine complete!
Trucks can run with gas conversions as well as normal every day cars....
They will use gas and diesel together....
We've carried out many such gas conversions on trucks where I work..
he said on and not with...if you go into a garage and as a motor engineer to run a diesel on lpg he will tell you the same as I pointed out.
I know its a little pedantic, but we need to avoid confusion when it can all end in tears.
inflation :- an increase in the money supply by the central bank (b.o.e.)
deflation :- a decrease in the money supply by the central bank (b.o.e.)
it would be correct to say that we are in a deflationary period, a general fall in prices worldwide but the immediate benefit of which are not filtering through to the average consumer due to monopolisation of basic necessities by big business and their protection by the best politicians money can buy. i.e. transportation and energy supply.
the immediate benefits will be offset by production job losses anyway.
any fool who believes that we came out of recession after the 2007 crash of the financial markets is living in mainstream propaganda land.
the only increase in production (generally, although there will be isolated pockets i.e. jaguar landrover) will be arms production for the next war they will want to tax us for and send our kids off to die in.
there will likely be more benefits doled out to finacial institutions (too big to fail) and more austerity for the rest of us (too small to save)
we will have 12 billion in cuts and they will have more taxpayers money. funny kind of capitalism for the majority and socialism for the banks and big business.
so expect more demonisation of foreign governments and their leaders in order to justify regime change and drop democracy/peace bombs on them and expect your selected members of parliament to promise you the promised land until there are elected. just like your pensions really, disappear the day you go to collect.
unfortunately, with so many regimes armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons and washington and london hell bent on suppressing every other nation into vassel states and cash cows, we are in for a rough ride to reset the debt burden and pass it on to others.
we no longer have a commonwealth to exploit and the american empire is at overstretch militarily so they will probably opt for the nuclear option if russia and china refuse to roll over and accept western dictat.
deflation :- a decrease in the money supply by the central bank (b.o.e.)
it would be correct to say that we are in a deflationary period, a general fall in prices worldwide but the immediate benefit of which are not filtering through to the average consumer due to monopolisation of basic necessities by big business and their protection by the best politicians money can buy. i.e. transportation and energy supply.
the immediate benefits will be offset by production job losses anyway.
any fool who believes that we came out of recession after the 2007 crash of the financial markets is living in mainstream propaganda land.
the only increase in production (generally, although there will be isolated pockets i.e. jaguar landrover) will be arms production for the next war they will want to tax us for and send our kids off to die in.
there will likely be more benefits doled out to finacial institutions (too big to fail) and more austerity for the rest of us (too small to save)
we will have 12 billion in cuts and they will have more taxpayers money. funny kind of capitalism for the majority and socialism for the banks and big business.
so expect more demonisation of foreign governments and their leaders in order to justify regime change and drop democracy/peace bombs on them and expect your selected members of parliament to promise you the promised land until there are elected. just like your pensions really, disappear the day you go to collect.
unfortunately, with so many regimes armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons and washington and london hell bent on suppressing every other nation into vassel states and cash cows, we are in for a rough ride to reset the debt burden and pass it on to others.
we no longer have a commonwealth to exploit and the american empire is at overstretch militarily so they will probably opt for the nuclear option if russia and china refuse to roll over and accept western dictat.
