Single guys are getting a bad deal in this site

10 Sep 2011

Put a note in the room to see what the response is to Single guys.
The details were Single clean,discreet,respectful,considerate interested in meeting a Couple.
Accomodation ,other than a hotel was offered26 views,not one taker
Can anyone indicate why Single guys get a hard time in this site.
james

11 Sep 2011

It's a bit simplistic to say single guys are getting a bad deal. Thier chances on the whole are slimmer as they tend to outnumber Couples/females. It is no different on other sites.
I would say the majority of couples are generally looking for a single female or failing that another couple. Females usually look for other females. Single men are way down the pecking order.
It's like the old joke about the mother asking her daughter why she was crying. She said that little Johnny had something extra between his legs that she didn't have.
Don't worry said mum, with what you've got you can get one of those anytime.

11 Sep 2011

Jane's hit the nail on the head there. Also an alarming number of single guys don't make things easy on themselves due to their behaviour on the forums, in the chatrooms and in person. Ask any couple or single fem who has been on the scene for a few months and they will all relate experiences of guys who are pushy, rude, arrogant, late or just plain weird. You can join a chatroom that states no whispering/directing in the title, and in a few minutes you'll be hit on by someone that hasn't even read your profile, ie the bit at the top that says no single males. Just last night I asked a guy to stop hassling Lily and he just got abusive and called me a 'nerd'. I found this startling coming from a guy sat in a darkened room masturbating furiously, alone.
Lily and I believe that swinging isn't just about meeting people for sex, it's about meeting new and exciting people, making friends...and then having sex with them. We know some amazing single guys that we regard as real friends because they've invested time in creating a reputation and a level of trust that's appreciated by a large number of people over a considerable time. Throwing up an ad is a start, but having an honest, detailed profile with more than just a picture of a penis, and good conduct in the chatroom will go a long way. This isn't aimed at you, WarriorMonk, you've raised a valid question and I hope this goes some way towards your answer. I hope you have a great time on this site meeting new people...and then having sex with them. wink

11 Sep 2011

well said

11 Sep 2011

Show us your wife's tits ,
Sorry could not let that pass ha ha. Proof in the pudding single male here ha ha

11 Sep 2011

Hi all..
I just wanted to add something after reading this. Its like the bad apple scenario.
I am a single female, I have my profile and ad etc and they have details of what I am looking for. When ppl dont read yr profile it just feels rude, I went into the chat rooms for the first time the other day and within 2 minutes I couldnt cope with the pms and the ones that didnt get a reply within seconds got rude and impolite. I am a polite person so maybe I just need to get a thicker skin but at the same time I dont see why I should have to so the ignore button will be getting used more. I reply to every mail or message where I can but I wont let a few hand friendly men put me off and Im sure others wont either.
If you are a single male, just bear it in mind that we are here, we just need to find each other. I dont like instant meet ups and I never will but thats just me, each to their own, if thats what yr into go for it but my profile shows Id reather get to know someone and chat and a pic is also kind of helpful.
If I could give any hints or tips, read profiles, fill out yr own and have pictures. Winks and id like to get you know you mails form a blank profile doesnt really help.
But, there are some real genuine guys on here. I have also had some lovely mails and am creating friendships in the hope of regular meets and mutual fun, it does happen but it can take time x

11 Sep 2011

I find the best way of standing out from the countless other single males is to go on camera in the chatrooms, get speaking to people in the chatrooms anyway and to personalise a private message if I send one after seeing a profile I like.
Couples and single females probably get bombarded with messages so it's a case of putting in a little effort, show them that you've read their profile, being yourself and seeing what happens.
Just my view and experience.

11 Sep 2011

Quote by WarriorMonk
Put a note in the room to see what the response is to Single guys.
The details were Single clean,discreet,respectful,considerate interested in meeting a Couple.
Accomodation ,other than a hotel was offered26 views,not one taker
Can anyone indicate why Single guys get a hard time in this site.
james

Some of them moan too much about how badly single males are treated. On a pretty regular basis too. Either that or they moan about the lack of doggers or the slow nature of the 'scene' in the NW. Oh, and when people point out to them that they should stop whining, they get all sniffy and sulk. Or complain that the 'pack' has descended on them - how very dare they make comment on such threads, hmmm? rolleyes

11 Sep 2011

I don't think single guys do get a hard time on here, unless of course they give others a hard time, and unfortunately most do.
Firstly if you mail anyone without reading thier profile first, be you a single or a couple you are giving others a hard time, at the very least you could easily be wasting thier time if you are not what thier profile says they are looking for.
I don't go with the theory that there are too many single guys in the scene or on the site that is making it difficult for guys.
First off a great % of the guys will never get a meet because they make no effort with thier profile, they make no effort with thier contact mails and they make no effort in the chatroom, so you can discount a lot of the guys as being "no chance"
Then there are the dreamers who think about a meet, enjoy the adrenalin rush of the chase but when it comes down to meeting they will not go through with it, some because they have wives and this is a bit of fun, some because they suddenly reallise how difficult it is to meet total strangers and have sex with a female while her husband is in the room, some because they start to think about how many others are going to be at the gangbang/bukake/party etc and simply get cold feet, whatever the reason they too can be eliminated from the "competition numbers"
Many of the single guys are only here because they can watch people have sex on cam for free, why pay to watch if you don't have to.
Let's be honest there are very few, genuine guys on here who know how to get meets, so the real numbers are very few.
Then look at what is available, many couples seeking a single male, a fair few single females seeking single males, many of the couples and single males don't just want one guy they want a whole team smile

one woman can take care of anything up to 20 guys in one session (some I know 20 is the starters before the main course)
What about couples, do they get a hard time, no, but some do find it harder to find a compatible couple than the guys do, it takes an average of 4-6 months for me and Sasha to find a compatible couple on here and to find a single females, we don't even bother looking because 98% of those we speak to turn out to be couples or single guys not single females at all.
When I was single, I got to play all the time through, meets or at clubs, as a couple it is very difficult to find 4 people that are totally compatible, am I picky, of course I am, I have Sasha, why on earth would I meet someone I dont find sexually attractive when I can stay at home with her. but that is the same for many couples, as a single guy I just needed to find a couple where the women likes the variety of more than one man ie more than her partner for sex, and a where the male half either enjoys 3somes or enjoys watching his partner having fun with other guys and there are lots of couples who like that.
Single females, they are easy to find as a single guy, either within the scene or outside it, (loads of women would love to try a club or a swingers party but wouldn't know where to start and love the idea when it is put to them)
Simple fact is, swinging is a hard time for everyone, it just isn't the quick fix shag many people believe it is.

12 Sep 2011

I don't give anyone a hard time, I'm really nice and I rarely visit the forums (that may be the issue) however I hardly have any replies ever! S'ok though.
It'll be because I've got a beard, I'm hairy and tattooed!

12 Sep 2011

I think there's been plenty said about single guys and I'm not disputing that you are probably a nice guy yourself...however, many of the single guys aren't even single, that kinda sets things on it's heels to begin with. The next sad fact is that when they arrange a meet they don't turn up...what can I say. I've been on here for years, made several good friends, had a number of sexy meetings with members of both sexes, and still enjoy meeting new people.
There are some basic golden rules which cannot be said too often. Go to socials and meet people and make friends is the first. Go to the chatrooms and get on cam and show yourself, your face of course. (Very few people will take an interest in guys who appear to wish anonimity....that wish will be granted.) Then make sure your profile is up to date and has a pic or two as well as a little bit about you.
Of course if you just want to get laid it's usually easier to just pop into a local bar and let the girls pick you up.

12 Sep 2011

oh your so unfair..... *shrug*

12 Sep 2011

There are basically two problems for single guys on the site:
- firstly, the fact that they often regard paying their SH subs as a licence to shag,
- and secondly, all the other single guys.
I have had some good meets off here - but along the way there are a lot (and I mean a LOT) of messages sent, chat conversations had, plans made - only to get rearranged, or cancelled, etc.
Fact is - there are loads more guys on here than there are couples & females looking for guys. So if you are to succeed, you have to be more than just a nice guy, you have to be head & shoulders above all the others. (Or perhaps I should have used another body part to emphasise the point wink

)
I've tried placing an ad in the Forum from time to time... and never heard a thing in reply. maybe too short notice, maybe my profile is not what people are looking for, or maybe it was just lost in the sea of single guys looking for the same as I was looking for.
I'd suggest make an effort with a few people, whose profiles suggest they are looking for someone like you. that is likely to be more effective than a random "mailshot" to the full membership.
And good luck - you are already one step on the way, in that you're open to listening to some advice!
PS - Any ladies looking for a bit of fun in Central London later this week, let me know!! lol

:lol: :lol:

12 Sep 2011

I would say single guys get an opportunity to have fun - not a guarantee
There are easier ways to sex, I just like the excitement of a new meet and the whole new world of naughtiness and the ability to quickly get beyond the basics into the good stuff without having to have that conversation! lol

Helps if you actually know what you want from this and also know what you can offer, beyond that be honest and respectful and you should make progress! boink

13 Sep 2011

Single guys do get shafted on the swinging scene and not in the way we are after lol

It is basic numbers and human nature.
Men as a rule have a higher sex drive than women as well as being more up for casual encounters and on the "scene" this means that there are LOADS more guys than girls hence we get ripped off for £50 to get in a club where for a single girl its £5 or even free. PLus when you get in the club you find it to be a total sausage fest anyways. bolt

No matter how nice, friendly attractive nor how much of an effort you make single guys are all after the tiny number of women who are actually looking for single men so therefore alot of the time it is an utter waste of effort. This of course leads to getting frustrated banghead

Still there is no point in bitching about it.
Sometimes I think it would be enlightening for the women on here to get the same treatment blokes get, ie no attention whatsoever coupled with rude rebuffs if you dare talk to anyone that is if they have the good manners to reply at all.
There you go mini rant over, I'm not complaining just stating the way things are!

13 Sep 2011

Quote by bayboy1664
Single guys do get shafted on the swinging scene and not in the way we are after
It is basic numbers and human nature.
Men as a rule have a higher sex drive than women as well as being more up for casual encounters and on the "scene" this means that there are LOADS more guys than girls hence we get ripped off for £50 to get in a club where for a single girl its £5 or even free. PLus when you get in the club you find it to be a total sausage fest anyways.
No matter how nice, friendly attractive nor how much of an effort you make single guys are all after the tiny number of women who are actually looking for single men so therefore alot of the time it is an utter waste of effort. This of course leads to getting frustrated Still there is no point in bitching about it.
Sometimes I think it would be enlightening for the women on here to get the same treatment blokes get, ie no attention whatsoever coupled with rude rebuffs if you dare talk to anyone that is if they have the good manners to reply at all.
There you go mini rant over, I'm not complaining just stating the way things are!

Christ... I'd hate to hear you when you WERE complaining...!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

13 Sep 2011

Oh. That old chestnut :undecided:

13 Sep 2011

Very well said Mike2Mike you gorgeous nerd you!!! xxxx
Unfortunately Warrior there are a lot of single guys who make it more difficult for the genuine guys on here, just need to perserve and chat.
Make friends.
Then have sex with them!! (see you sat mike2mike wink

) xxxx

13 Sep 2011

Quote by manchester_man
Single guys do get shafted on the swinging scene and not in the way we are after
It is basic numbers and human nature.
Men as a rule have a higher sex drive than women as well as being more up for casual encounters and on the "scene" this means that there are LOADS more guys than girls hence we get ripped off for £50 to get in a club where for a single girl its £5 or even free. PLus when you get in the club you find it to be a total sausage fest anyways.
No matter how nice, friendly attractive nor how much of an effort you make single guys are all after the tiny number of women who are actually looking for single men so therefore alot of the time it is an utter waste of effort. This of course leads to getting frustrated Still there is no point in bitching about it.
Sometimes I think it would be enlightening for the women on here to get the same treatment blokes get, ie no attention whatsoever coupled with rude rebuffs if you dare talk to anyone that is if they have the good manners to reply at all.
There you go mini rant over, I'm not complaining just stating the way things are!

Christ... I'd hate to hear you when you WERE complaining...!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
OK you pay more to get into a club BUT:
Many (but of course never all) men go to a club that is the nearest to them, for some guys the worse the club for couples the better it can be for them, ie those clubs that pay women to be on site and take care of the single guys like Retro club, Private club, Xstasia.
Many couples travel to a club they personally consider to be better, we for example tend to go to Chameleons (an hour away) rather than Atlantis (3 mins away) though we do use both clubs.
When couples visit clubs many need to pay a babysitter but only a very few single males have to pay for one
My partner and many others always want a new outfit for a club visit
Drinks of course cost us twice as much as does food because there are 2 of us
Because of the travel distance many couples stay at hotels for the visit, men traveling shorter distances dont (remember I said most but not all)
So it can be dearer to get in a club but the other costs can be less, it is not just an open and shut thing.
I know women friends who go to clubs and have fun with 20 guys in a night, I don't know any guys who are looking to play with 20 different women in one night no matter how much they claim to be a stud.
Of course we could make it cheaper for single guys to go to clubs and more for couples and single females but that might only help if your gay or bi cos I kinda think that there will be far less women at the clubs.
Such pricing exists all over, if your a woman try getting a haircut for the same price as a man, you are required to pay upto 10 times as much just because your a woman, the average cost of clothes for women is much higher than those for men, many bars and nightclubs have a happy hour for women giving cheaper drinks to them, some let them in nightclubs for free whilst men have to pay and so on.
But worst of all, Pensioners don't get any discount when they go to Swingers clubs and that is just WRONG smile

15 Sep 2011

Anyone going to show me there wife's tits or what. Ha ha , what's all the fuss about , met 3 couples on here , boom !!! Done the deed and after more , us bulls just get on with the job in hand , women , meat , club , caveman . Ha ha