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stormy I'll take fire off your hands then you'll be single and able to attend......sorted.....
would that it were that simple :roll:
I don't even want to go....
spoilsport......... :roll:
indeed :roll:
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SERENDIPITY - THANKYOU 
To the negative others----
I refused to change the idea's here for this particular meet. If you see that as discrimination then so be it. Please... Complain to whatever powers that be. If I ever find an official reason not to hold a singles meet I wont do it but if your only thought of reasoning is that 'what you say should be right' then Im happy to leave you with that thought. Please go ahead and organise a social for 'couples that play seperate as singles'... There, Your very own night too.. But I do wonder IF you were actually single, without anyone to go home to, wether the idea of finding a regular person that you could maybe spend whole nights of playing with to fill the sometimes lonely gap we SOMETIMES experience, wether you'd actually like this idea... but until that should happen, you've made your point that you dont like this idea & feel left out.
As well as a swinger, I am also a human being.. Are the 2 not allowed to mix? I often wanna play naughty but sometimes I feel lonely too. Will any of those attached let their man stay overnight when I feel like asking? Single people are more likely to be available for each other, more often.
Ive had a lot of positive response though and so will continue whatever is said on here.
I'll now leave you to repeat yourself again or find another little bit that you find unable to understand.
To the negative others----
I refused to change the idea's here for this particular meet. If you see that as discrimination then so be it. Please... Complain to whatever powers that be. If I ever find an official reason not to hold a singles meet I wont do it but if your only thought of reasoning is that 'what you say should be right' then Im happy to leave you with that thought. Please go ahead and organise a social for 'couples that play seperate as singles'... There, Your very own night too.. But I do wonder IF you were actually single, without anyone to go home to, wether the idea of finding a regular person that you could maybe spend whole nights of playing with to fill the sometimes lonely gap we SOMETIMES experience, wether you'd actually like this idea... but until that should happen, you've made your point that you dont like this idea & feel left out.
As well as a swinger, I am also a human being.. Are the 2 not allowed to mix? I often wanna play naughty but sometimes I feel lonely too. Will any of those attached let their man stay overnight when I feel like asking? Single people are more likely to be available for each other, more often.
Ive had a lot of positive response though and so will continue whatever is said on here.
I'll now leave you to repeat yourself again or find another little bit that you find unable to understand.
Warming the Bed
Ms Minxie - stick with it.
I'm with Fabio on this one, by the way.
I'm with Fabio on this one, by the way.
so...this singles social, is it a dating social for those singles that feel lonely and would like to find a significant other?
i would much rather meet a significant other from sh than from some conventional dating site, coz at least then theres some sort of common ground. however, ive never looked at socials as a way of meeting that person.
i think you should go for it and see how it goes personally! there are enough people around these parts to fill up your list of attndees, so do it
minxie can i suggest you ask admin to move this thread to "the cafe" and then actually sort a date and venue out and advertise the "singles socials" in "lets meet up" may i ask everyone including myself let the lets meet up advert run without any more comments from us thus maybe putting some people off as we've all had our say on this interesting
Quote by Ms_minxie
SERENDIPITY - THANKYOU
To the negative others----
I refused to change the idea's here for this particular meet. If you see that as discrimination then so be it. Please... Complain to whatever powers that be. If I ever find an official reason not to hold a singles meet I wont do it but if your only thought of reasoning is that 'what you say should be right' then Im happy to leave you with that thought. Please go ahead and organise a social for 'couples that play seperate as singles'... There, Your very own night too.. But I do wonder IF you were actually single, without anyone to go home to, wether the idea of finding a regular person that you could maybe spend whole nights of playing with to fill the sometimes lonely gap we SOMETIMES experience, wether you'd actually like this idea... but until that should happen, you've made your point that you dont like this idea & feel left out.
As well as a swinger, I am also a human being.. Are the 2 not allowed to mix? I often wanna play naughty but sometimes I feel lonely too. Will any of those attached let their man stay overnight when I feel like asking? Single people are more likely to be available for each other, more often.
Ive had a lot of positive response though and so will continue whatever is said on here.
I'll now leave you to repeat yourself again or find another little bit that you find unable to understand.
Ah, the mists lift, this is a dating social not a swinging social, why did you just not call it that in the first place, I would have understood from the start why an attached swinger who plays as a single on occasion would have been unwelcome.
I wish you every successes with the event, and hope it helps you find the relationship you are looking for .
Warming the Bed
Hi i think it would be a great idea i like social meets and it would be great to think that all there is available so please count me in
Andy xxx
Andy xxx
Quote by Ms_minxie
Right...
This will be a SINGLES night. If your married or attached then your not available SHOULD someone be looking for a swinging or other relationship. You have someone, a real single person doesn't.
So Mallock2006 as you fall into this catagory and you have been unquestionally honest about it, thankyou, this particular social would not be open you.
Please try not to enter into 'ruts' about this subject. You are all entitled to your opinions but at the end of the day, this one will be for singles only not matter what that opinion is.
As I've said before - It'll either fall flat or be a success. It's all trial and error & for at least one time only I am prepared to take a chance.
Minxie xx
Here I am now quoting my own quotes **sigh**
Repeating myself---Note the SHOULD above.
Stormwalker
You've delved & delved to try and find a reason why you personally are not 'welcome'<< Your words.
Ive gone through as many explainations as I can as to why a single would want an uncomplicated chance to meet another single with the same interest (swinging) From pure fun to a relationship.
However you try to belittle me or my idea's & thoughts, this meet is not open to anyone with a permanent partner. If you see that as 'unwelcome' again your words... then so be it.
Thankyou for you advice cockslut... I will do just that xx
The Minx xx
Sex God
Quote by Ms_minxie
Right...
This will be a SINGLES night. If your married or attached then your not available SHOULD someone be looking for a swinging or other relationship. You have someone, a real single person doesn't.
So Mallock2006 as you fall into this catagory and you have been unquestionally honest about it, thankyou, this particular social would not be open you.
Please try not to enter into 'ruts' about this subject. You are all entitled to your opinions but at the end of the day, this one will be for singles only not matter what that opinion is.
As I've said before - It'll either fall flat or be a success. It's all trial and error & for at least one time only I am prepared to take a chance.
Minxie xx
Here I am now quoting my own quotes **sigh**
Repeating myself---Note the SHOULD above.
Stormwalker
You've delved & delved to try and find a reason why you personally are not 'welcome'<< Your words.
Ive gone through as many explainations as I can as to why a single would want an uncomplicated chance to meet another single with the same interest (swinging) From pure fun to a relationship.
However you try to belittle me or my idea's & thoughts, this meet is not open to anyone with a permanent partner. If you see that as 'unwelcome' again your words... then so be it.
Thankyou for you advice cockslut... I will do just that xx
The Minx xx
So whats the difference between "not open to you" and "not being welcome"
A man walks into an office.
Man: (Michael Palin)
Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
Receptionist:
Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
Man:
No, this is my first time.
Receptionist:
I see. Well, do you want to have the full argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
That'll be the full course then
Surely there are enough socials happening that no one would feel that this is THE one that they just HAVE to attend if they don't fit the criteria of the organiser.
If you don't like it then don't go. I wouldn't want to go to something that was clearly not aimed at me anyway. I could feel discriminated against that some couples only want to play with bi-fems, or a certain age group, or a certain size ... but isn't that just personal choice rather than discrimination?
If singles want to socialise with other singles, for whatever reason, then good luck to them. Why should that affect me as part of a couple? If it does affect me, then tough. I could always arrange an alternative social if I felt that strongly about it.
Go for it and good luck.
over the years on being on this site, ive seen Couples only Socials, Parties. Ladies only Socails and parties, so i cant see the why there cant be a Singles only one. everyone on this site is here for different reasons.. some to meet couple, some to meet singles... each to there own.
i'm all for a singles only Meet, and as long as i can make it i will support it as i can get the weekend off.
oh.. and if you do need any help in the orgainsing just give me a bell.
Jonathan
i'm all for a singles only Meet, and as long as i can make it i will support it as i can get the weekend off.
oh.. and if you do need any help in the orgainsing just give me a bell.
Jonathan
Thankyou also to
Northwestcple nice to have a normal unbegrudging couples outlook, thankyou
Jiggle :kiss: I just may call on you x
Mallock2006 - Unwelcome are people we dont like personally in my book - yours... ??
Not Open to you - A bit like a ladies toilet to the male species
Or a mirror shop for the blind...
Or a pub closed for refurbishment.. you could go in but nothing there is available to you at this time!
Northwestcple
nice to have a normal unbegrudging couples outlook, thankyou Jiggle :kiss: I just may call on you x
Mallock2006 - Unwelcome are people we dont like personally in my book - yours... ??
Not Open to you - A bit like a ladies toilet to the male species
Or a mirror shop for the blind...
Or a pub closed for refurbishment.. you could go in but nothing there is available to you at this time!
Reading this has made me quite sad.
For those of you who didn't know, the premise for the single's night came about after a thread in the cafe forum;
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/216181.html.
If you read that you may have a better understanding of what the whole thing is about. An evening where singles can attend without feeling like they're intruding on what is, on the whole, a couple's oriented activity ie swinging. Having an evening where you can go, as a single person and not feel like the odd one out or you're intruding or out of place.
Personally I think it quite selfish of someone who's part of a couple to think themselves hard done by by not being able to attend. What started out as a nice idea has turned into a major debate and slanging match.
As a single person I do find it quite hard to attend socials and munches without feeling like the odd one out. When I can I arrange to go with someone but that's not always possible. Being able to attend an event where everyone is on the same starting point, ie there on their own, would be lovely.
Yes, in a ddition it would be nice to socialise with guys that, if we hit it off, might lead to something further. If the majority of the attendees there are married that narrows the posibility somewhat. Yes, I appreciate that some may go under false pretences, there's no way of getting round that, there'll always be those who want their cake and eat it.
Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of saying, 'oh that's not fair, I can't go.' Saying, 'Oh that's a lovely idea, I hope you all enjoy yourselves.'
H.x
For those of you who didn't know, the premise for the single's night came about after a thread in the cafe forum;
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/216181.html.
If you read that you may have a better understanding of what the whole thing is about. An evening where singles can attend without feeling like they're intruding on what is, on the whole, a couple's oriented activity ie swinging. Having an evening where you can go, as a single person and not feel like the odd one out or you're intruding or out of place.
Personally I think it quite selfish of someone who's part of a couple to think themselves hard done by by not being able to attend. What started out as a nice idea has turned into a major debate and slanging match.
As a single person I do find it quite hard to attend socials and munches without feeling like the odd one out. When I can I arrange to go with someone but that's not always possible. Being able to attend an event where everyone is on the same starting point, ie there on their own, would be lovely.
Yes, in a ddition it would be nice to socialise with guys that, if we hit it off, might lead to something further. If the majority of the attendees there are married that narrows the posibility somewhat. Yes, I appreciate that some may go under false pretences, there's no way of getting round that, there'll always be those who want their cake and eat it.
Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of saying, 'oh that's not fair, I can't go.' Saying, 'Oh that's a lovely idea, I hope you all enjoy yourselves.'
H.x
Sex God
Quote by redwine_lover
Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of saying, 'oh that's not fair, I can't go.' Saying, 'Oh that's a lovely idea, I hope you all enjoy yourselves.'
H.x
I think its fair to say that that has been the reaction of the majority except say 1 or 2 individuals/cples
RWL
xx
And if you bother to read the thread you will see even they have said they hope it goes well
Quote by redwine_lover
Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of saying, 'oh that's not fair, I can't go.' Saying, 'Oh that's a lovely idea, I hope you all enjoy yourselves.'
H.x
I think its fair to say that that has been the reaction of the majority except say 1 or 2 individuals/cples
RWL
xx
Quote by Stormwalker
I wish you every successes with the event, and hope it helps you find the relationship you are looking for .
Quote by Mallock2006
Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of saying, 'oh that's not fair, I can't go.' Saying, 'Oh that's a lovely idea, I hope you all enjoy yourselves.'
H.x
I think its fair to say that that has been the reaction of the majority except say 1 or 2 individuals/cples
RWL
xx
And if you bother to read the thread you will see even they have said they hope it goes well
i have in fact read the whole thread as this is one thread of interest to me... but the one liners of support that u highlight have been drowned out by the larger number of alledged "discrimination/unhappy" posts, so they hardly give me any feelings of sincerity...
i just dont get the big issue that has been raised questioning the validity of this thread subject...
RWL
Sex God
Quote by Sarah
We currently have rules governing how Munches are run and organised on here. Where people wish to organise a social event, we allow you to do your own thing, which is correct. Why should we dictate how you want to enjoy yourselves? However, due to recent circumstances, we have decided that certain conditions will apply to social events and parties publicised through Swinging Heaven. These are as follows:
1. The event is the responsibility of the organiser and a list of attendees is to be made available if requested.
2. If you know that banned people are attending you should state that this is the case as soon as known in the opening post.
Swinging Heaven is run for the good and benefit of its members, not anyone else. Wherever possible we endeavour to ensure that when you go to either a Munch or a Social, you can go knowing you will feel safe in the company of those attending.
The Social arranger can do what ever they like as long as 1 and 2 above are noted.
What ever you do you are not going to please everyone.
Minxie
You set a date and a location and your rules / guidelines for this and you go for it.
And I hope you all have a wonderful evening.
requoted from Thursday.
Sex God
It's been suggested a singles only social meet might be a good idea. :thumbup: So before anythings arraned I'd like to sound you out, see how much genuine interest there is.
Not all responses may have been the ones that you were hoping for, but they were asked for all the same.
As a single woman not looking for couples its sometimes hard to start talking to a man at a social only to find he has a wife/partner.
Yep this can happen to many folk. Not just single women.
I really dont want anyone else's guy
Why not as long as they are prepared to play alone? it's swinging we are talking about isnt it? not relationships?
so maybe it would be easier to know that everyone who attended is available for meets as a single.
I understand that Mallock although married IS available to meet as a single with his wifes blessing. Why is this not open to him or others like him.
Would be open to Straight, Bi, Gay. Any single would be welcome.
Any single except....one that is not available for a relationship?
So, what do you think?... Would you attend??
MINXIE xx
I'm not as you know a single but if I were no I probably wouldn't attend as I would now be worried that anyone I met may think I'm available for more than just swinging.
Please let me clarify. If this social goes ahead and is brilliant for everyone involved then I am very very happy about that as this site is about people meeting each other for fun and has a very successful social side to it. However picking and choosing what type of single you want at your singles social is treading on peoples choices abit surely?
If you want it to be a social for singles who are available for more than swinging...just say so and there wouldnt have been a need for this thread to get so complicated as it has done.
I did try to read the thread link that was posted but it's disappeared :cry:
Anyway have a lovely time all!
Love
Fire xx
Not all responses may have been the ones that you were hoping for, but they were asked for all the same.
As a single woman not looking for couples its sometimes hard to start talking to a man at a social only to find he has a wife/partner.
Yep this can happen to many folk. Not just single women.
I really dont want anyone else's guy
Why not as long as they are prepared to play alone? it's swinging we are talking about isnt it? not relationships?
so maybe it would be easier to know that everyone who attended is available for meets as a single.
I understand that Mallock although married IS available to meet as a single with his wifes blessing. Why is this not open to him or others like him.
Would be open to Straight, Bi, Gay. Any single would be welcome.
Any single except....one that is not available for a relationship?
So, what do you think?... Would you attend??
MINXIE xx
I'm not as you know a single but if I were no I probably wouldn't attend as I would now be worried that anyone I met may think I'm available for more than just swinging.
Please let me clarify. If this social goes ahead and is brilliant for everyone involved then I am very very happy about that as this site is about people meeting each other for fun and has a very successful social side to it. However picking and choosing what type of single you want at your singles social is treading on peoples choices abit surely?
If you want it to be a social for singles who are available for more than swinging...just say so and there wouldnt have been a need for this thread to get so complicated as it has done.
I did try to read the thread link that was posted but it's disappeared :cry:
Anyway have a lovely time all!
Love
Fire xx
This will be a SINGLES night. If your married or attached then your not available SHOULD someone be looking for a swinging or other relationship. You have someone, a real single person doesn't.
So Mallock2006 as you fall into this catagory and you have been unquestionally honest about it, thankyou, this particular social would not be open you.
I'm not interested in attending so I don't mean to add fuel to fire but I really don't understand the underlined part.
What you aren't accounting for are all the people who have open relationships, Morbius and I used to swing as a couple, at the moment it's impossible for us to do that together, but we "might" still have our own FB that we see, we have permission to do that. But we'd (in the sense that I mean either one of us not both) be excluded from your social, yet we satisfy the criteria. We'd be attending as a single and are available for swinging relationship.
Surely as long as a person meets the criteria they can't be discriminated against and told they can't attend. It doesn't matter that they have someone to go home to and a single doesn't!
This is a swinging website, not a dating one although I do understand that it occurs. I also know that some people chose not to swing but attend socials and that kind of blurs the lines.
As I say I do hope that there is a happy medium, but excluding part of the website just seems to be divisive
Quote by Calista
This will be a SINGLES night. If your married or attached then your not available SHOULD someone be looking for a swinging or other relationship. You have someone, a real single person doesn't.
So Mallock2006 as you fall into this catagory and you have been unquestionally honest about it, thankyou, this particular social would not be open you.
I'm not interested in attending so I don't mean to add fuel to fire but I really don't understand the underlined part.
What you aren't accounting for are all the people who have open relationships, Morbius and I used to swing as a couple, at the moment it's impossible for us to do that together, but we "might" still have our own FB that we see, we have permission to do that. But we'd (in the sense that I mean either one of us not both) be excluded from your social, yet we satisfy the criteria. We'd be attending as a single and are available for swinging relationship.
Surely as long as a person meets the criteria they can't be discriminated against and told they can't attend. It doesn't matter that they have someone to go home to and a single doesn't!
This is a swinging website, not a dating one although I do understand that it occurs. I also know that some people chose not to swing but attend socials and that kind of blurs the lines.
As I say I do hope that there is a happy medium, but excluding part of the website just seems to be divisive
Then please attend the many other wonderful socials that include all the lovely people who are available for what your looking for.
If people who are your class of
single dont agree with what Im sayin then they wont come to this social anyway...Percieve it as you wish or complain to whoever you think is the 'Rule' here.
Quote by firelizard
It's been suggested a singles only social meet might be a good idea. :thumbup: So before anythings arraned I'd like to sound you out, see how much genuine interest there is.
Not all responses may have been the ones that you were hoping for, but they were asked for all the same.
A possitive debate is always healthy.
As a single woman not looking for couples its sometimes hard to start talking to a man at a social only to find he has a wife/partner.
Yep this can happen to many folk. Not just single women.
Then why not organise an event to make it easier?
I really dont want anyone else's guy
Why not as long as they are prepared to play alone? it's swinging we are talking about isnt it? not relationships?
It's personal choice, surely. I've learnt the hard way how complicated things can get if you meet with a married guy and it's a route I don't wish to go down again. I realsie this isn't being organised purely for my benifit but I can only speak from personal experience. .
so maybe it would be easier to know that everyone who attended is available for meets as a single.
I understand that Mallock although married IS available to meet as a single with his wifes blessing. Why is this not open to him or others like him.
If you say married people are allowed to come so long as they have thier partners permission, where do you draw the line? How do you prove it? And if both halves of a couple play on their own, can they both come? in which case they are coming as a couple and it may as well just be another social.
Would be open to Straight, Bi, Gay. Any single would be welcome.
Any single except....one that is not available for a relationship?
I can't speak for anyone else attending and I'm not trying to. From a personal point of view the only relationship I'm looking for is that of friendship/swing partner. I'm not looking for a husband, I'm not looking for a partner, I'm not looking for a boyfriend. I'm open to the idea that I might meet someone I'd like to spend some time with outside the bedroom. Would I think it fair to expect that from someone who was married, no.
So, what do you think?... Would you attend??
MINXIE xx
I'm not as you know a single but if I were no I probably wouldn't attend as I would now be worried that anyone I met may think I'm available for more than just swinging.
I'd like to attend because I think it might be a good evening, because it would be one evening I could attend as a single person without feeling intimidated by being surrounded by couples. I'm not attending to hunt for a man, if I meet someone I like then great, if I don't then I'll have had a fun evening anyway. I don't think anyone would be going with the assumption that everyone there would be available for marriage
Please let me clarify. If this social goes ahead and is brilliant for everyone involved then I am very very happy about that as this site is about people meeting each other for fun and has a very successful social side to it. However picking and choosing what type of single you want at your singles social is treading on peoples choices abit surely?
If you want it to be a social for singles who are available for more than swinging...just say so and there wouldnt have been a need for this thread to get so complicated as it has done.
I did try to read the thread link that was posted but it's disappeared :cry:
Anyway have a lovely time all!
Love
Fire xx
H.x
Quote by Ms_minxie
This will be a SINGLES night. If your married or attached then your not available SHOULD someone be looking for a swinging or other relationship. You have someone, a real single person doesn't.
So Mallock2006 as you fall into this catagory and you have been unquestionally honest about it, thankyou, this particular social would not be open you.
I'm not interested in attending so I don't mean to add fuel to fire but I really don't understand the underlined part.
What you aren't accounting for are all the people who have open relationships, Morbius and I used to swing as a couple, at the moment it's impossible for us to do that together, but we "might" still have our own FB that we see, we have permission to do that. But we'd (in the sense that I mean either one of us not both) be excluded from your social, yet we satisfy the criteria. We'd be attending as a single and are available for swinging relationship.
Surely as long as a person meets the criteria they can't be discriminated against and told they can't attend. It doesn't matter that they have someone to go home to and a single doesn't!
This is a swinging website, not a dating one although I do understand that it occurs. I also know that some people chose not to swing but attend socials and that kind of blurs the lines.
As I say I do hope that there is a happy medium, but excluding part of the website just seems to be divisive
Then please attend the many other wonderful socials that include all the lovely people who are available for what your looking for.
If people who are your class of
single dont agree with what Im sayin then they wont come to this social anyway...Percieve it as you wish or complain to whoever you think is the 'Rule' here.
why the :roll: and where have I stated that I'm looking for a class of single? why won't the type of person I'm interested in come to your single? I live in the midlands, I swing as a single.
I wasn't complaining, just asking for clarification and I don't appreciate the implications!
edited twice because I'm as cross as fuck with the implication in the post.
Quote by Calista
This will be a SINGLES night. If your married or attached then your not available SHOULD someone be looking for a swinging or other relationship. You have someone, a real single person doesn't.
So Mallock2006 as you fall into this catagory and you have been unquestionally honest about it, thankyou, this particular social would not be open you.
I'm not interested in attending so I don't mean to add fuel to fire but I really don't understand the underlined part.
What you aren't accounting for are all the people who have open relationships, Morbius and I used to swing as a couple, at the moment it's impossible for us to do that together, but we "might" still have our own FB that we see, we have permission to do that. But we'd (in the sense that I mean either one of us not both) be excluded from your social, yet we satisfy the criteria. We'd be attending as a single and are available for swinging relationship.
Surely as long as a person meets the criteria they can't be discriminated against and told they can't attend. It doesn't matter that they have someone to go home to and a single doesn't!
This is a swinging website, not a dating one although I do understand that it occurs. I also know that some people chose not to swing but attend socials and that kind of blurs the lines.
As I say I do hope that there is a happy medium, but excluding part of the website just seems to be divisive
Then please attend the many other wonderful socials that include all the lovely people who are available for what your looking for.
If people who are your class of
single dont agree with what Im sayin then they wont come to this social anyway...Percieve it as you wish or complain to whoever you think is the 'Rule' here.
why the :roll: and where have I stated that I'm looking for a class of single? why won't the type of person I'm interested in come to your single? I live in the midlands, I swing as a single.
I wasn't complaining, just asking for clarification and I don't appreciate the implications!
I only asked a sodding question!
OOOOOps a naughty-ish word
You may play as a single but you NOT single. There are many people who play like you that go to mixed socials...
We are just taking our choice of Real singles For REAL singles. You of course must make your choice to play as you like and there are many events that your free to do so.
This is for GENUINELY UNATTACHED SINGLE people who WISH to meet likewise. If ANY of us should feel we'd like more then why the heck not? Being a swinger does not mean your closed to love AND fun. Or is it the couples that like to play with singles dont want us to meet incase there are no singles left :lol:
Oh I dont know...
As I keep repeating... You will percieve as you wish, and good luck to you, I fully respect your arguments.
But this social will only be open to people without a partner of any kind...
Thankyou, Lurrrve Minxie xx
