I think you should probably tell us what software you were running that didn't pick these keyloggers up..... :shock:
p.s. MS now have a free anti-spyware beta available, although it seems to be more of an activity monitor than a signature finder, if you know what I mean. So far its' reports have seemed honest and non-scaremongering but I'm sure that'll change in time....
I'm running it anyway alongside 2 other spyware detectors, a/v and a hardware firewall.
Scary place, t'internet !!
Ant.
just a note that I've been using mozilla for ages and have none of that rubbish on my machine. internet explorer is responsible for installing most of the stuff, as are outlook and outlook express. a firewall and a good browser are the best start.
I have a prog called hijackthis which points out most stuff, but being a techie I know where the evil stuff puts itself too, and I have none of it.
I could tell the more tech literate people where to look, but won't post it here as it requires knowledge of the registry so you could destroy your machine if you go wrong :twisted:
No, not like a snail, although the home pc is only a lowly P3, albeit with bags of ram. Not noticeably slower than the brand new P4 at work, but then that is loaded down with bl**dy Netware.....
The 2 spyware detectors are not permanently running, just cron jobs and the a/v seems fairly well behaved.
But yes, I don't have much trust in MS either - was just trying it out to see if it was better than nothing.
Ant.
I've given up with my wireless network at home. Internet access through my laptop was worse than dial-up, not to mention the lost MSN messages and frequent disconnection/reconnection issues with it. The connection was even worse when the laptop was running on battery power.
I usually run through a router that acts as a firewall, I also use a software firewall as well as adaware and another spyware thing I forget the name of.
Be careful with your wireless routers. I've heard of a number of people who get free broadband because their neighbours didn't know how to (or couldn't be arsed to) change their admin passwords.
its gods way of saying buy a mac
there's no spyware and I haven't heard of a mac virus of any note since 1997
ok, probably not a sensible option for most, but as everyone else says, stop using MS software. Especially explorer and outlook.
Firefox is the mutz nutz for you windoze people and anything that diverts a few shillings away from uncle bill can't be a bad thing
feed his children??
nah can't see it, that would mean spending some of his money!
nobody really likes the man, but it doesn't seem to bother him, he could happily stick his hand down the couch and pull out $50 million for the tsunami appeal and not even notice!
ho hum, OT rant over, best go take a sensible pill
A word of Warning.
HijackThis is an excellent program in the hands of a geek.
If you use HijackThis do not just tick every box and click "Fix Checked". A lot of the items it finds are needed to make your internet connection and other parts of your computer system work.
Use HijackThis with extreme care. It is a very powerful tool maybe even too powerful.
Spybot is good, but just doesn't spot nearly enough in my experience. :uhoh:
Spy Sweeper (by Webroot) found an absolute hoard after I installed it. (PC now goes quite a lot faster too.)
Spy Sweeper is available free or you can pay after 30 days i think - the freebie period is enough to do a major clean up but I thought it proved itself well worth the tenner or whatever as an investment.
OK, some 'spyware' is not that harmful, but most of it really slows your PC down or much worse still.
Most programs that claim to remove Spyware actually install it. (Do a bit of research online and you can easily verify this.)
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Good luck!
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ps Webroot also do an excellent proggie called Washer (wish I could install it in my kitchen after a dinner party)
Its funny you should say that, it was Spybot and Adaware that missed all the stuff on my machine, and Spy Sweeper by webroot that found it all.
You can buy the download, full version for on eBay at the moment.
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I run Spybot regularly, but as with all spyware detectors and virus scanners you must keep it up to date with the regular update downloads from the makers... New spyware is invented every day to invade your machine, and if the detector can't recognise it cos it's not been told about it, it won't catch all, just the obvious.
I too run Firefox, but it kept playing up every so often a while back so I tried Avant browser which has built in blockers for just about everything and have not picked up a single spy since beginning using Avant.
One other trick is turn off the Automatic Cookie Handling and set it to Prompt with always deny 3rd Party Cookies and accept Session Cookies.
Turning off Cookies can be a bit of a pain and is not recommended for the novice as you have to decide whether to block or accept cookies on virtually every site you visit and also whether permanently block the cookies. You also need to know how to edit the Blocked and Allowed lists.
Don't forget to clean out your browser history, cookies, download temp files, etc regularly as well, especially in IE... I do it manually every evening before I log off, it's surprising how much temp crap you can build up in the internet files department... I checked my brother's PC the other week cos he hates touching anything not on the desktop... He'd built up 4700 files in the temp internet file folder, I don't think he needed that lot to re-visit sites he'd been to somehow.
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