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Quote by PoloLady
Could it be that it's not possible to seperate the people/attitude from the activity dunno

I think you can.
You are a tucker driver.
You may one day be driving a car - you are still a truck driver but you are not truck driving whilst doing that particular activity. And further more - the fact you are a truck driver will never make the act of driving the car truck driving.
class biggrin
Quote by PoloLady
Could it be that it's not possible to seperate the people/attitude from the activity dunno

I think you can.
You are a tucker driver.
You may one day be driving a car - you are still a truck driver but you are not truck driving whilst doing that particular activity. And further more - the fact you are a truck driver will never make the act of driving the car truck driving.
Ah - but I still drive like a truck driver, and more to the point (that's in my head) I still have the mentality/attitude of a truck driver.
Quote by Jas-Tim
Is the activity of meeting people for 1-2-1 sex swinging?

No
Jas
XXX
So the fact that I only meet other bi fems and one regular male for 1-2-1 and not 3somes means I'm not swinging? dunno
Edited wink
Quote by Fun Scottish Couple
So you can only be a swinger if you're part of a couple?
H.x

You tell me? what is a swinger? as everyone has different opinions of what swingers are but 2 single people having consentual sex isn't swinging to me but thats just my opinion your may differ but i'm only answering what polo asked which was peoples opinions on the subject and didn't reply to offend anyone.
No offence taken, a personal opinion can neither be right or wrong, it is an opinion - if we all shared the same opinions there would be no need for debate and where would be the fun in that biggrin
Apologies if this is long winded or convoluted. My opinion. If two people meet in a swinging situation (be it club or social, munch or a meet) and have sex, then they are swining. If two people meet in the real world (not the best term but you know what I mean) and have sex they are not swinging - even if, unbeknown to each other at the time they are both swingers, because of the circumstances underwhich they met.
H.x
yes your definition i'd say is swinging but polo never stated on here or at a munch or at a swinging club which is obviously gonna be full of swingers so the answer is yes i only answered to polo's wording on the original topic so our wires have crossed :D
I fail to see the importance of where the two singles made contact as being relevant as to what the activity is.
If two people meet for sex - no other reason (that they admit to anyway) - why does it make a difference if it was here, , after a munch, or the frozen veg section of Tesco - the act is still the same???
Quote by dambuster
Could it be that it's not possible to seperate the people/attitude from the activity dunno

I'd disagree with this purely because I am aware that some single people come on here looking for love and so the meets are designed to find their new ideal partner via the happy medium of sexual meets. confused

I think that would have me question whether they are indeed swinging/swingers at all
:shock: :shock: :shock: It never would, would it :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jas
XXX
Quote by dambuster
Could it be that it's not possible to seperate the people/attitude from the activity dunno

I think you can.
You are a tucker driver.
You may one day be driving a car - you are still a truck driver but you are not truck driving whilst doing that particular activity. And further more - the fact you are a truck driver will never make the act of driving the car truck driving.
Ah - but I still drive like a truck driver, and more to the point (that's in my head) I still have the mentality/attitude of a truck driver.
And that is why you will be a truck driver whatever you are doing - but it doesn't mean every time you drive you're trucking wink
Quote by Sassy-Seren
Is the activity of meeting people for 1-2-1 sex swinging?

No
Jas
XXX
So the fact that I only meet other bi fems and one regular male for 1-2-1 and not 3somes means I'm not a swinger? dunno
Only if you don't read all of the question lol :lol: :lol:
Quote by Sassy-Seren
Is the activity of meeting people for 1-2-1 sex swinging?

No
Jas
XXX
So the fact that I only meet other bi fems and one regular male for 1-2-1 and not 3somes means I'm not swinging? dunno
Edited wink
Quote by PoloLady
And that is why you will be a truck driver whatever you are doing - but it doesn't mean every time you drive your are trucking wink

I don't want to :wink:, but I have to agree.
I still can't get past this tho . . . . . . . . .
If I'm shagging a vanilla ( God forbid :scared: ) I'm shagging, but if I'm shagging alone with another (singular) swinger, then I'd see it as swinging dunno
Quote by PoloLady
I fail to see the importance of where the two singles made contact as being relevant as to what the activity is.
If two people meet for sex - no other reason (that they admit to anyway) - why does it make a difference if it was here, , after a munch, or the frozen veg section of Tesco - the act is still the same???

For me it's because swinging isn't just the act of people having sex, how ever many of them there are. It's the attitude that those people have towards the act of having sex and to those they have it with.
H.x
Quote by dambuster

And that is why you will be a truck driver whatever you are doing - but it doesn't mean every time you drive your are trucking wink

I don't want to :wink:, but I have to agree.
I still can't get past this tho . . . . . . . . .
If I'm shagging a vanilla ( God forbid :scared: ) I'm shagging, but if I'm shagging alone with another (singular) swinger, then I'd see it as swinging dunno
What would you be actually 'doing' that would make a difference between the two acts of sex?
Quote by PoloLady
What would you be actually 'doing' that would make a difference between the two acts of sex?

Ok, what if two people are having sex and a third is watching? Is that just shagging? The physicallity of it would be the same but there would be three people present, would that be swinging? If so then the actual physical act of two people having sex hasn't altered so what is the differenc?
H.x
Quote by H-x

I fail to see the importance of where the two singles made contact as being relevant as to what the activity is.
If two people meet for sex - no other reason (that they admit to anyway) - why does it make a difference if it was here, , after a munch, or the frozen veg section of Tesco - the act is still the same???

For me it's because swinging isn't just the act of people having sex, how ever many of them there are. It's the attitude that those people have towards the act of having sex and to those they have it with.
H.x
I wouldn't disagree if we were talking about what defines a 'swinger' - attitude is about the person.
Quote by PoloLady

I still can't get past this tho . . . . . . . . .
If I'm shagging a vanilla ( God forbid :scared: ) I'm shagging, but if I'm shagging alone with another (singular) swinger, then I'd see it as swinging dunno

What would you be actually 'doing' that would make a difference between the two acts of sex?
I don't know.
I think H-x says something here . . .
Quote by H-x
For me it's because swinging isn't just the act of people having sex, how ever many of them there are. It's the attitude that those people have towards the act of having sex and to those they have it with.
H.x

I see the what you say about the actual activity at the time, but . . . . . . . . :dunno:
Maybe my view is clouded because redface I've just tried to think of the last time I "vanilla shagged" (by my own definition) . . . . . . . but can't :shock:
I have revised my handy check list.
2 Married people with spouses full knowledge and consent = swinging
2 Married people without spouses full knowledge and consent = cheating
One married with with one unmarried but with full knowledge and consent = swinging
One married with with one unmarried but without full knowledge and consent = cheating
Unattached or unmarried with unattached or unmarried = plain old dating and fucking
unfulfilled bickering couples = wingeing
avoided partners = minging
Quote by H-x

What would you be actually 'doing' that would make a difference between the two acts of sex?

Ok, what if two people are having sex and a third is watching? Is that just shagging? The physicallity of it would be the same but there would be three people present, would that be swinging? If so then the actual physical act of two people having sex hasn't altered so what is the differenc?
H.x
Is the person who is watching spanking the monkey? lol :lol: :lol:
Quote by PoloLady

What would you be actually 'doing' that would make a difference between the two acts of sex?

Ok, what if two people are having sex and a third is watching? Is that just shagging? The physicallity of it would be the same but there would be three people present, would that be swinging? If so then the actual physical act of two people having sex hasn't altered so what is the differenc?
H.x
Is the person who is watching spanking the monkey? lol :lol: :lol:
Oh, how could they not biggrin
H.x
No he's tying up his boat for the night.
With someone watching its voyeurism. Or dogging even.
Quote by H-x

What would you be actually 'doing' that would make a difference between the two acts of sex?

Ok, what if two people are having sex and a third is watching? Is that just shagging? The physicallity of it would be the same but there would be three people present, would that be swinging? If so then the actual physical act of two people having sex hasn't altered so what is the differenc?
H.x
The serious answer....
If the person watching was the partner of one of the people who was shagging - yes I think it would be.
If the person watching is just watching two singles shagging then they are shagging and getting a voyeuristic kick at the same time.
It is a bit like saying if you go for a shag in the car with another single and the farmer who’s field you have parked in cops an eye-full (with your knowledge) – does that make it swinging? I think not.
Quote by PoloLady
So you can only be a swinger if you're part of a couple?
H.x

You tell me? what is a swinger? as everyone has different opinions of what swingers are but 2 single people having consentual sex isn't swinging to me but thats just my opinion your may differ but i'm only answering what polo asked which was peoples opinions on the subject and didn't reply to offend anyone.
No offence taken, a personal opinion can neither be right or wrong, it is an opinion - if we all shared the same opinions there would be no need for debate and where would be the fun in that biggrin
Apologies if this is long winded or convoluted. My opinion. If two people meet in a swinging situation (be it club or social, munch or a meet) and have sex, then they are swining. If two people meet in the real world (not the best term but you know what I mean) and have sex they are not swinging - even if, unbeknown to each other at the time they are both swingers, because of the circumstances underwhich they met.
H.x
yes your definition i'd say is swinging but polo never stated on here or at a munch or at a swinging club which is obviously gonna be full of swingers so the answer is yes i only answered to polo's wording on the original topic so our wires have crossed :D
I fail to see the importance of where the two singles made contact as being relevant as to what the activity is.
If two people meet for sex - no other reason (that they admit to anyway) - why does it make a difference if it was here, , after a munch, or the frozen veg section of Tesco - the act is still the same???
Like you said there’s no difference and I stand by my original answer that 1 on 1 sex is not swinging my whole point is others seem to think that once a swinger always a swinger which may well be the case, just like the truck driver scenario you pointed out to damie he will always be a truck driver whether driving a truck or not but that doesn’t necessarily mean that a swinger is always swinging hence my original answer. oh and by the way good post, very interesting topic smile
So, the fact that you say people who just have 1-2-1 recreational sex aren't swinging, what are all the single members who don't do 3somes, 4somes or moresomes doing on a swinging site?
I'm with H on this one. I think you CAN be swinging 1-2-1, it is after all recreational sex without the emotional attachment, pressures of dating or simply to realise your own sexual needs and that's what makes it different to plain old shagging or dating.
I see swinging as a lifestyle, a community in which to meet and make friends with like minded people, something you couldn't get within your circle of 'vanilla' friends.
Quote by Sassy-Seren
So, the fact that you say people who just have 1-2-1 recreational sex aren't swinging, what are all the single members who don't do 3somes, 4somes or moresomes doing on a swinging site?
I'm with H on this one. I think you CAN be swinging 1-2-1, it is after all recreational sex without the emotional attachment, pressures of dating or simply to realise your own sexual needs and that's what makes it different to plain old shagging or dating.
I see swinging as a lifestyle, a community in which to meet and make friends with like minded people, something you couldn't get within your circle of 'vanilla' friends.

Or is it just that people on the swinging scene are just more open minded to recreational sex in all of it's forms - that the attitude of swingers is generally "so what if you want to shag people"
There are reasons I believe what I believe and also a reason I find it annoying and (you may find this surprising) judgemental to say that 1-2-1 sex is swinging. If I can be arsed to work out how to express that feeling into words I may just explain it at some point lol
personally i don't think that act of 1 on 1 sex is swinging no
So you're saying that 'swinging', as a term, can only be used to describe the sexual act of three or more people?
H.x
Quote by naughtynymphos1
personally i don't think that act of 1 on 1 sex is swinging no

Quote by H-x
So you're saying that 'swinging', as a term, can only be used to describe the sexual act of three or more people?
H.x

I'll get my coat then, shall I? bolt
I think the significant difference is in being married. Anyone who isn't married is at liberty to pursue sexual liaisons.
Anyone who is married and has extra marital sex (in knowledge and consent of the partner), can consider themselves a swinger. Otherwise there would be no need to have the expression.
Quote by H-x
So you're saying that 'swinging', as a term, can only be used to describe the sexual act of three or more people?
H.x

No, swinging is a sexual act involving a person/people from outside of a pre-existing relationship (whatever type of relationship that may be)
Otherwise - anyone having sex and being pretty level headed about it would be swinging (including the example given earlier about the man who visits a prostitute)
Quote by H-x

What would you be actually 'doing' that would make a difference between the two acts of sex?

Ok, what if two people are having sex and a third is watching? Is that just shagging? The physicallity of it would be the same but there would be three people present, would that be swinging? If so then the actual physical act of two people having sex hasn't altered so what is the differenc?
H.x
Is the person who is watching spanking the monkey? lol :lol: :lol:
Oh, how could they not biggrin
H.x
And I thought that was our little secret! redface
Quote by In PM, someone
But....
did you and HLB not take a break from actively 'swinging' at the start of your relationship (i think I remember that anyway) but you certainly did not have a break from sex.

That reinforces my doubts about being able to seperate the two (activity and attitude)
Because that's exaclty what we did do. We took a break from swinging as our sex, with each other, became more and more vanilla/relationship dunno based; as opposed to being purely "recreational"
When you go to bed tonight or any night with HLB and have sex - are you swinging?

It's a school night, so she won't let me :grin:
But seriously . . . .
I know you are not singles - I also appreciate when you two have sex there is the relationship aspect aswell - but that aside - do you think that sex is swinging?

Again . . . . seperation of the two :dunno:
Most definately, we have relationship type sex.
But some of our sex, with each other, does follow my/our ethos of recreational sex.
Quote by Fun Scottish Couple
....so i don't know why i've upset you....

You didn't. :shock: Because at the bottom of the post you are talking about I put....
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