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Oh gosh, I`ve been here for 10+ months, and only now does it occur to me to write a serious sex query thread! It concerns a fantasy, which I was writing up at home, one which makes me look extremally arrogant, but hey, I`m an only child, what you gonna do?! And for godsakes please don`t laugh!
Ok, well it can be any number of scenarios, but it`s basically based upon how desperate a man gets by watching/wanting me. I could be on the bed, pleasuring myself, and some guy (straight) would be watching me secretly. He`ll be liking what he sees, and he`ll be needing to relieve himself.......maybe pulling his trousers down, you get the idea......
as this is going on, another guy (also straight) will come along, also wanting to get a good view......of course he will start doing the same, but as he is stretching over the other guy, his cock would inadvertantly touch bare flesh. He doesn`t like to admit it, but it feels good. He other guy doesnt want to admit it, but he quite likes it too! Oi! Stop pissing yourself in the background there! I see you!
They try to ignore what is going on, but as they become increasingly horny, and desperate for stimulation (cos I`m that good rolleyes ) their accidental contact becomes bolder, each one denying that it`s purposeful, because it is, after all against their nature, until it gets to the point where they eventually cave in to it, one guy pushing back on the other, the guy at the back rubbing and pushing more frantically, both worrying that they won`t be able to pull it off as accidental touching, and how to deal with that, but so turned on, that they are beyond caring, they would do ANYTHING to relieve their aching cocks, because of the effect I`m having, trying to resist desperately, but failing miserably....you have to appreciate the intensity of their `need`
It`s not about demeaning men, it`s having the power to effect someone so intensely, and sometimes, depending on the stress in my life, it works the other way too, where I would be.......well sub I suppose....
Of course it takes various scenarios, like everyone is aware of each others presence, and I make them perform on each other before I let them touch me, and they have to communicate how much they want fuck me on the other person.....then I might turn them loose whilst they reverse this on me. Perhaps trussing me up, blindfolding me, and then taking me out onto a muddy footpath where I will beg to be fucked by anything, even strangers, I don`t care.
If life is living me, the dominant fantasy comes to the fore. If I`m controlling the ample stress in my life, it`s the sub, sometimes both which just means I`m being greedy. :mrgreen:
I have to admit, although my fantasies often involve strangers, in reality I would need to totally know and trust the people involved. (and no, it`s not a bloody advert!)
Most of the sexual stimulation is on a mental level with me, and can get quite complex. That`s one of the reasons that discussing the befores and afters (not that there`s been many) have been more fulfilling to us as a couple than the act itself with partners (get her :roll: she hasn`t even full swung yet!), because it allows us a greater understanding of each other deeper processes..if that make any sense? It`s can different for many couples I know.
Now the reason I`m posting this is because when I found myself using the words Sub and Dom, it made me blink, it isn`t something I`d considered being a part of my sexual makeup, and as a result know very little about it. It`s always seemed a little `out there` for me. I`ve tried the light bondage etc, but this is a very strong theme, which has a more profound effect. We thought it might be valuable if we offered it up for dissection, especially by those already in the BDSM scene, they might be able to offer an insight as to how this relates to the scene....and whether I`m a hell of a lot kinkier than I realised and why?!!
Venusxxx
Great post!
The sub and domme side is something I like to explore and even more so lately. I am no longer a swinger but am definately an active part of my local BDSM community.
For me it was a natural progression from swinging into BDSM but I'm not saying that is the same for everyone - just maybe swinging opened my mind to other possibilites and avenues.
The power u can have over others is immense as long as all boundaries and limits are respected. And it isn't always the Dom/Dommes that wield the control either.
BDSM includes such a multitiude of things and you should explore it at your own pace with people you trust.
Thanks, I can start breathing again now can I? biggrin
Venusxxx
fantasies, sometimes best left at that, as the real thing can sometimes dissapoint, but then again, when acted out, even better than you could imagine. i have many fantasies, that i would possibly never get to carry out,...they are mine, that i keep locked inside my minds eye, only to be enacted when i choose to.
if the right situation arises then maybe......
a few of them involve sub/dom senarios, but i would need a lot of trust to carry them out.
i hope this makes some sense confused
Quote by VenusnMars
Thanks, I can start breathing again now can I? biggrin
Venusxxx

Lmao u sure can
Bunny - in sub mode today and shopping for leather cuffs wink
Quote by teppic
fantasies, sometimes best left at that, as the real thing can sometimes dissapoint, but then again, when acted out, even better than you could imagine. i have many fantasies, that i would possibly never get to carry out,...they are mine, that i keep locked inside my minds eye, only to be enacted when i choose to.
if the right situation arises then maybe......
a few of them involve sub/dom senarios, but i would need a lot of trust to carry them out.
i hope this makes some sense confused

ive never found any fantasies ive carried out to be dissapointing
:twisted:
they just turn in to fantastic memories
Quote by teppic
fantasies, sometimes best left at that, as the real thing can sometimes dissapoint, but then again, when acted out, even better than you could imagine. i have many fantasies, that i would possibly never get to carry out,...they are mine, that i keep locked inside my minds eye, only to be enacted when i choose to.
if the right situation arises then maybe......
a few of them involve sub/dom senarios, but i would need a lot of trust to carry them out.
i hope this makes some sense confused

Thanks, it`s not a fantasy which I would be able to act out to the letter (two straight guys caving in because of me..yeah, that`ll happen! lol ), but I suppose if that level of excitement could be achieved, and read, then it would work for me. It`s various things that I have picked up on on the odd occassion BDSM has been brought up by friends which suggest that this level is sometimes achieved........I hadn`t really taken it on board until now, seeing as I am as pure as the driven snow wink
This is not to say that average sex isn`t great for me, it is! Other times I will vocalise these scenarios during sex, (so and so is walking through the door, he`s excited, we make him..show me how hard you want him to......) and the excitement which Mars acheives (sorry hun, you were warned) will send him spinning out of control, which turns me on no end, we normally cum at the same time!
He wasn`t aware of any Bi tendancies until I started with that! :shock:
Venusxxx
Great thread Venus.
Have to say, I haven't really had any fantasies regarding bondage etc. Not something I'd want to do to someone and definitely can't see myself giving up any control in a sexual situation. Don't get me wrong, each to their own, just don't think it's for me that's all.
You've put in some cracking posts lately - can I have some of whatever it is that made you produce them please? lol
PS, I thought you were quiet and shy like me rolleyes
Bev
xx
Quote by freckledbird
Great thread Venus.
Have to say, I haven't really had any fantasies regarding bondage etc. Not something I'd want to do to someone and definitely can't see myself giving up any control in a sexual situation. Don't get me wrong, each to their own, just don't think it's for me that's all.
You've put in some cracking posts lately - can I have some of whatever it is that made you produce them please? lol
PS, I thought you were quiet and shy like me rolleyes
Bev
xx

Ta very much! :mrgreen: It`s called insomnia wink :lol:
Venusxxx
Well it is said that of all the organs in the body the most important one of all is the brain. Fantasy can be, and usually is, a very important part of anyone's sexual life, and within that my opinion is that you should be able to think of anything, whatever it may happen to be, and if it gets you off, that's great.
As you point out, there are elements to the fantasy that you wouldn't want to happen for real, and that's fine too.. fantasies are there so that you can explore stuff very safely.
I'd certainly agree (as someone who has been into BDSM for a long time) that this particular fantasy has very strong sub/dom elements to it, and I've certainly seen play at clubs very similar to the kind of thing that you describe. Again on the mind thing; you're getting off (it seems to me) both on the exhibitionist element AND the controlling element, and controlling people (even if it's just telling them what they can or cannot do) can be very erotic in and of itself.
Now, are you kinkier than you think? Depends on how kinky you think you are in the first place really. I guess some people would say that your fantasy is very kinky, others wouldn't blink at it. I really do think that it's down to you! We all discover things about ourselves continually, and sometimes it can be a surprise. So I think that it's possible that through this fantasy you are discovering that you have a Domme streak in you, and that you get turned on by controlling male subs. The fact that they're strangers in your fantasy kinda fits in with this as well; as they're strangers you don't need to care about their wants and needs, they're just animated sex toys in a way.
Your other fantasy, where you describe yourself as being submissive, I'd actually say is still pretty much on the Domme side. You talk about controlling the situation 'I make them perform on each other' and 'I might turn them loose'. rather than just leaping to the last section of having no control over who fucked you.
It would certainly be possible to act out elements of the fantasy at a club, if you wanted to do that, though of course it'll never be quite the same - you don't need me to tell you that! I think a valid question to ask yourself though would be 'Do I want to?' and only you can answer that.
In summary (and sorry for a long reply, but it was an interesting question) I'd say that you probably have Domme tendancies, and would get off on the control element. There are lots of ways that you could explore it safely of course - plenty of clubs where people wouldn't turn a hair. Maybe it might be worth visiting one - not to play, but just to watch and talk to people? I'd also suggest it might be worth talking to other people who are into BDSM and particularly the sub/Dom(me) element just to learn more about the subject. On the other hand, they're great fantasies and if they work for you, and they do, then great - just enjoy them as that!
P.
Excellent post again.
Not in the least horny reading it rolleyes
G x
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! banghead :banghead: :banghead:
There is absolutely no fucking god.
I spent so long, quoting, thinking, and answering JandPUK, the bloody site had logged me out and I sodding lost it when I tried to post!!!
Well there goes my sexual fucking awareness down the toilet! I`m not bloody writing that again! mad
Venusxxx /not in the least bit happy
Quote by VenusnMars
fantasies, sometimes best left at that, as the real thing can sometimes dissapoint, but then again, when acted out, even better than you could imagine. i have many fantasies, that i would possibly never get to carry out,...they are mine, that i keep locked inside my minds eye, only to be enacted when i choose to.
if the right situation arises then maybe......
a few of them involve sub/dom senarios, but i would need a lot of trust to carry them out.
i hope this makes some sense confused

Thanks, it`s not a fantasy which I would be able to act out to the letter (two straight guys caving in because of me..yeah, that`ll happen! lol ), but I suppose if that level of excitement could be achieved, and read, then it would work for me. It`s various things that I have picked up on on the odd occassion BDSM has been brought up by friends which suggest that this level is sometimes achieved........I hadn`t really taken it on board until now, seeing as I am as pure as the driven snow wink
This is not to say that average sex isn`t great for me, it is! Other times I will vocalise these scenarios during sex, (so and so is walking through the door, he`s excited, we make him..show me how hard you want him to......) and the excitement which Mars acheives (sorry hun, you were warned) will send him spinning out of control, which turns me on no end, we normally cum at the same time!
He wasn`t aware of any Bi tendancies until I started with that! :shock:
Venusxxx
pure as driven snow...hmmmm, this is something i'm now going to have to contemplate in deep meditation.... :wink:
The greatest sex organ in the body is "between your ears." That's right, the brain! hehehehe ....
And if anyone wants to try looking into some BDSM scene, check out They have rooms for folks from all over the world. I am a member there as well, and they, like here, are VERY open about exploring sexuality (I hope no one considers this an advert for that site!).
Soft
redface
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The greatest sex organ in the body is "between your ears." That's right, the brain! hehehehe ....
And if anyone wants to try looking into some BDSM scene, check out They have rooms for folks from all over the world. I am a member there as well, and they, like here, are VERY open about exploring sexuality (I hope no one considers this an advert for that site!).
Soft
redface

It is a great site. I may be biased though as i met the love of my life on that site :inlove:
G x
I can totally see where your coming from. While I've never seen this type of fantasy as a particularly sub/dom situation, now you've explained it I can see what you mean. I wasn't laughing in the background btw I was grinning in a rather sinister way...
The relationship I'm in at the moment has quite a strong S&M theme it isn't acutally as clear cut as it might seem to an outsider. While the physical acts would make it seem like I am submissive/masochistic the psychological drive behind it is much more the opposite. I find it hard to make it make sense while writing it down, as I'm only just beginning to understand it myself.
I imagine it's because in real life I'm a very dominant/harsh personality and my partner is so sweet sensetive so when he ties me up and beats me in the bedroom nothing could turn me on more. However, it's still me that retains complete control mentally while all this is going on...
In the context of your particular fantasy, it seems as though you would be the dominant party, because it is you that's aroused these men to a point where they can't help themselves, but at the same time the subconcious control belongs to them, because the state of arousal that it is leaving you in is due to what they're doing. Especially if you were to act out this fantasy with people you know and trust in the form of role play, it would only emphasise the concious/subconcious levels of control.
I love the fact that you are always in control Venus.
Although apparently sub to the strangers who fuck you in the mud, you know exactly what you are doing and boy I can see the attraction.....you are the ultra-domme to the subs who take you there and truss you up ready to be taken....you have demanded it of them and alll they want is you but you want to be publicly offered, their mistress denied them......they will be so... damn... horny................
Its a great fantasty, I like it a lot. wink xxxx
Venus - might I say first off that I found your fantasy very arousing...
I won't pinch it though ;) it's yours!
I too am a menber on Alt and have found it to be a great place. Even if you were never to "meet" anyone through the site or do anything as a result, it's a great place for simple learning, and there are some cool people there (much like here, really).
Also I offer my thanks (as Tania will probably note from other threads - cheers pet) for justifying male bisexuality by incorporating it into a fantasy! Normally just doesn't go down well, but you made it into a splendid piece of prose!
Ta love!