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3 tube stations are closed and yet another bus. Just coming over the nes on BBC
Emergency services have been called to three Tube stations after "incidents", Scotland Yard said.
Police confirmed they had been called to Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush stations.
There have been reports of smoke coming from two of the stations and all three have been evacuated.
The whole of the Northern Line has been suspended, along with the Victoria Line and the Hammersmith and City. There are no reports of any casualties.
Police also confirmed that emergency service personnel have responded to reports of an incident on a route 26 bus in Hackney Road.
I really hope this is just a precaution and nothing more :cry:
Reports of Oval, Shepherds Bush and Warren Street tubes have been evacuated, and also reports of an 'incident' on a bus in Hackney Road....but reporters are making the point that these incidents arent on the same scale of 2 weeks ago.
On BBC news they are talking about explosions again.
this is so bad makes you scared to go any where
I am now feeling very depressed and sad. I really hope its not serious but if its bombs I have very grave fears for what is going to happen in this country :cry:
Reports of more explosions, with injuries !!! three stations and a bus with windows blown out. :fuckinghell:
Very worrying !!1
Hope all in the london area are ok :cry:
Latest is:
Hackney tube station also cordoned off.
One off Lodons Hospitals cordened off and armed police entering the hospital.
No major casualties so far being reported.
Men in cemical suits are entering tube station
This is disgusting. I mean it was bad enough last week.
I'm meant to be starting work on Monday in tottenham court road but I'm absolutely bricking myself about it. Surely it's only a matter of time before that's targetted too?
Latest info gives the explosions caused by detonators. Police are attending a hospital were a suspect appears to have been taken. According to the BBC's website.
The rumour I've heard is the explosive went off in the blokes back-pack and set him on fire, hence the police presence at the hospital :lol2:
Please Lord let that be true worship
And to the parents of the boy and his family, I'm sorry.
Thankfully, i was off work today, so have missed all the disruption in London.
i hope everyone's ok, and doesn't have a long journey home.
Well Libra hun I hope its true lol would serve the numpty right.
Now isn't the time for politics , etc so all i'll say is that those responsible are NOT humans in my eyes. They're closer to vermin instead since no human in my eyes would ever consider killing innocent men , women and children let alone kill themselves to to it.
Davie ( my thoughts and prayers are with the families of those killed and injured 2 weeks ago as this will bring back too many bad memories and to those affected by todays events )
Well my son was at school luckily this time......but that is still only 5mins from The Oval!! confused
Ice was called away into work because of this.
I've told him to keep safe and he apologised for any topics he appeared to have abandoned (ya daft bugger passionkiss )
Let's hope it doesn't get anymore serious.
Jas
XXX
It seems to be well under control now and only one person hurt
This seems like a very lucky escape today.
Only one reported casualty, and that is not a fatality.
I'm going to London tomorrow and I would have actually been using the northern line into Warren Street... I think I might walk around London now..
My friend works in the area. He was 2 mins away from the bus bomb last time and he uses the line that was attacked today at Warren Street to get to work everyday of the week. neutral
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Ice was called away into work because of this.
I've told him to keep safe and he apologised for any topics he appeared to have abandoned (ya daft bugger passionkiss )
Let's hope it doesn't get anymore serious.
Jas
XXX

as a lot of you know i work as a customer care manager for a major railway company so i have been on the other end of this... started work at am this morning... then at 1pm we first got word of what was happening... the first word out of my mouth was "here was go again!!"
since then i have been running round like the proverbial blue assed fly...i have been in teleconfrences all afternoon and to be honest i am glad i got out the office at .. 3 hrs after i was suppose to finish
sad :( :(
and it was still going on as i left.. i am on call for the rest of the evening and i am just drained........
sean xxxxxx
It is kinda annoying to put it mildly ... being in Canary Wharf, the place has a large security and police presence on a 'normal' day but when stuff like this happens, it's even more the case.
Story went round the last time that a would-be suicide bomber was shot outside Canary Wharf but it never made the news ... but a friend of mine found an article in one of the papers which mentioned it a few days later ...
I think the implication is that it happened but was quickly hushed up ... my friend's always been a bit of a conspiracy theorist though ... still, makes you wonder.
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this is so bad makes you scared to go any where

I'll no doubt be flamed to buggery for saying this, but...
If that's how people feel, then the terrorists have won.
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this is so bad makes you scared to go any where

I'll no doubt be flamed to buggery for saying this, but...
If that's how people feel, then the terrorists have won.
That is how people feel, but it doesn't mean the terrorists have won. Let me explain.
There is nothing wrong with being scared. That is sane and normal under the circumstances and we'd have to think ourselves invincible to not be scared. However, the terrorists only win if people allow their lives to be disrupted by fear because the real aim of terrorism is to destroy our way of life, but what's happening is people are going about their normal business in spite of the fear.
Make no mistake, the mood in London is not of invincibility but of defiance. We are being targetted utterly at random, and the people who hate our freedom know that's scarey. They think that fear will cause us to submit, to become unable to live the way we want to live, because that's how it works in their world. But by choosing this country and this city as a target for rule by fear, they have made a serious error in judgement. As a nation, you don't live on an island for thousands of years without developing a collective stubbornness, and as Londoners, we don't easily forget the example of our predecessors who endured and overcame an infinitely more powerful challenge to their way of life in the 1940s.
On the 7th of July, and again yesterday, the people of London justified my pride in being one of them. We're not fearless and we're not immune to grief, but no matter how afraid and injured we are on the inside, the face we show to those who hate us is one that is far more frightening to them than they could ever be to us: It's the face of a free people who choose to do whatever it takes to get back to normal as quickly as possible and get on with living their lives the way they want to. That's something cowards can never understand, and therefore can never defeat.
As Donald Rumsfeld observed:
But if these terrorists thought they could intimidate the people of a great nation, they picked the wrong people and the wrong nation. For generations, tyrants, fascists, and terrorists have sought to carry out their violent designs upon the British people only to founder upon its unrelenting shores.
Before long, I suspect that those responsible for these acts will encounter British steel. Their kind of steel has an uncommon strength. It does not bend or break.

Are we scared? Yes.
Will we submit because we are scared? Not in a million years.
Great sentiments but I would add that sadly the terrorist probably have the same attitude. The Americans and its alliies may think it will win the so called "war on terror" but I think that there are quite a few out there thinking they have picked on the wrong religion. This isn't a defence of terrorism by the way.
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Great sentiments but I would add that sadly the terrorist probably have the same attitude.

I doubt that. They seem to be spurred by the promise of personal glory and notoriety, a promise given to them by those whose only motivation is irrational rage against that which they cannot control.
The Americans and its alliies may think it will win the so called "war on terror" but I think that there are quite a few out there thinking they have picked on the wrong religion.

Except that no one is picking on a religion. Religion is only the excuse terrorists use, and we are sensible enough to realise that it is their megalomania, not their God, that is the enemy.
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Great sentiments but I would add that sadly the terrorist probably have the same attitude.

I doubt that. They seem to be spurred by the promise of personal glory and notoriety, a promise given to them by those whose only motivation is irrational rage against that which they cannot control.
The Americans and its alliies may think it will win the so called "war on terror" but I think that there are quite a few out there thinking they have picked on the wrong religion.

Except that no one is picking on a religion. Religion is only the excuse terrorists use, and we are sensible enough to realise that it is their megalomania, not their God, that is the enemy.
I think that you will find that Moslems do feel that their religion is under attack from the west. This is what has made some turn to more extreme methods. I also don't think that they are spurred on by personal glory. I think they are motivated by strong beliefs. I think the one way to stop this war is to try and understand what motivates these people.
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It is kinda annoying to put it mildly ... being in Canary Wharf, the place has a large security and police presence on a 'normal' day but when stuff like this happens, it's even more the case.
Story went round the last time that a would-be suicide bomber was shot outside Canary Wharf but it never made the news ... but a friend of mine found an article in one of the papers which mentioned it a few days later ...
I think the implication is that it happened but was quickly hushed up ... my friend's always been a bit of a conspiracy theorist though ... still, makes you wonder.

I work in canary walf as well. I heard exactly the same romour from 3 diffrent people. It did actually make the news but the police dimissed it.
In regards to the events of yesterday. MY father was actually caught up in it. He works in Shepards Bush about 200 yrds (yes i do know what that distance is). Just below the train lines. He was evacuated from the scene leaving my car there.
Luckliy he was ok no harm/damage done but it makes you prey to god. I hope the security services catch these bastards.
MikeC
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I think that you will find that Moslems do feel that their religion is under attack from the west. This is what has made some turn to more extreme methods. I also don't think that they are spurred on by personal glory. I think they are motivated by strong beliefs. I think the one way to stop this war is to try and understand what motivates these people.

How do they work that out? dunno
I don't see how anyone can see their religion as being under attack in a country which, unlike some countries in which their religion is compulsory, allows them freedom to worship in the manner they see fit.
And I don't see how anyone can see their religion as being under attack in a country which allows them to openly denigrate and incite hatred against the very culture they themselves have chosen to use as a sanctuary from the more extreme versions of state-imposed religion.
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I think that you will find that Moslems do feel that their religion is under attack from the west. This is what has made some turn to more extreme methods. I also don't think that they are spurred on by personal glory. I think they are motivated by strong beliefs. I think the one way to stop this war is to try and understand what motivates these people.

How do they work that out? dunno
I don't see how anyone can see their religion as being under attack in a country which, unlike some countries in which their religion is compulsory, allows them freedom to worship in the manner they see fit.
And I don't see how anyone can see their religion as being under attack in a country which allows them to openly denigrate and incite hatred against the very culture they themselves have chosen to use as a sanctuary from the more extreme versions of state-imposed religion.
I don't disagree with what you have said about how they can percieve that their religion is under attack in this country but Moslems feel that attacks on one are attacks on all. Hence their anger over conflicts in Checnya, Palestine, Iraq to name but a few.
Believe it or not but this present conflict has its roots in the 1950's when a Egyptian moslem professor studying in the US was horrified by the decadence and immoral attitude of the west and saw the same things beginning to happen in Eygpt and a more militant Islam was born.
Some young Moslems also feel that they are marginalised in this country. Unlike Sikhs and Hindus. Moslems do tend to come from the poorest areas. They have also been victims of racism.
As I have said I do not support terrorism of anyone,including state terror for that matter. I just feel that it is very important to try and understand the mind set of these people and where they are coming from.
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Moslems feel that attacks on one are attacks on all.

That's strikes me as just an excuse, and a pretty flimsy one at that. If their allegiance to foreigners just because they are muslims is greater than their allegiance to the society whose material benefits they came here to enjoy, then they can fuck right off. But I don't believe they do all think like that. I think that's just a ploy of sympathisers and appeasers alike trying to make something more complicated out of pure and simple murder.
Believe it or not but this present conflict has its roots in the 1950's

Believe it or not I don't give a damn. If people want to cite historical causes, where do they draw the line? Should i declare war on Italy because Julius Caesar invaded this country? I think not.
Some young Moslems also feel that they are marginalised in this country.

That is their choice. They are perfectly at liberty to integrate and respect their host society.
Unlike Sikhs and Hindus.

...who do not try to force their culture on everyone else. Good point.
Moslems do tend to come from the poorest areas.

You have statistics to support this generalisation, no doubt?
They have also been victims of racism.

Moslem is not a race.
As I have said I do not support terrorism

Accepted, but you don't seem particularly keen to oppose it either. dunno
Just heard that the police have shot and killed a man on a train in south London. sad