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I have been talking to a friend here over time about a diet, I have since read a few articles and have seen a few programme about it too.
It can be known by a lot of different names but basically you go back to what your country originally produced, which here is mainly
Meat
Fish
Vegetables
Nuts
Eggs
There are a few other things in the list
Cutting out
Bread
Dairy
Rice
Pasta
Potatoes
Fruit
Beans
I have spoken to my hubby about it over months and now he has decided that it all makes sense so he researched it and is going to give it a try starting tonight.
Can we really cut out so much from our normal diet and really have a decent meal?
I am struggling to think of enough recipes to full fill his needs.
Bear in mind I am letting him be the guinea pig, hence why I planted the seed.
I don’t know if I could cut out so much from my diet, I think a balance is ok.
Could you survive on the list?
Any suggestions of meals would be greatly appreciated, I am not a bad cook but I need ingredients.
Cut out 95% of your carb intake should be enough in most cases to start reducing weight in a meaningful way though saying it and doing it are quite different lol And its not about a temporary thing look at it as veing for a lifetime.
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I have been talking to a friend here over time about a diet, I have since read a few articles and have seen a few programme about it too.
It can be known by a lot of different names but basically you go back to what your country originally produced, which here is mainly
Meat
Fish
Vegetables
Nuts
Eggs
There are a few other things in the list
Cutting out
Bread
Dairy
Rice
Pasta
Potatoes
Fruit
Beans
I have spoken to my hubby about it over months and now he has decided that it all makes sense so he researched it and is going to give it a try starting tonight.
Can we really cut out so much from our normal diet and really have a decent meal?
I am struggling to think of enough recipes to full fill his needs.
Bear in mind I am letting him be the guinea pig, hence why I planted the seed.
I don’t know if I could cut out so much from my diet, I think a balance is ok.
Could you survive on the list?
Any suggestions of meals would be greatly appreciated, I am not a bad cook but I need ingredients.

I don't understand why fruit and spuds are cut out, do we not grow them in this country, am I missing something here?
Quote by Sarah
I have been talking to a friend here over time about a diet, I have since read a few articles and have seen a few programme about it too.
It can be known by a lot of different names but basically you go back to what your country originally produced, which here is mainly
Meat
Fish
Vegetables
Nuts
Eggs
There are a few other things in the list
Cutting out
Bread
Dairy
Rice
Pasta
Potatoes
Fruit
Beans
I have spoken to my hubby about it over months and now he has decided that it all makes sense so he researched it and is going to give it a try starting tonight.
Can we really cut out so much from our normal diet and really have a decent meal?
I am struggling to think of enough recipes to full fill his needs.
Bear in mind I am letting him be the guinea pig, hence why I planted the seed.
I don’t know if I could cut out so much from my diet, I think a balance is ok.
Could you survive on the list?
Any suggestions of meals would be greatly appreciated, I am not a bad cook but I need ingredients.

I don't understand why fruit and spuds are cut out, do we not grow them in this country, am I missing something here?
Fruits and potatoes were imported to this country they were not grow as a natural food supply younders ago wink
This country has always had a rich history of Chocolate making!!!!!! lol
Sorry Minxy but as much as it sounds like a good plan, it's not a very balanced diet.
There is one diet out there ( the name eludes me sorry - senior moment redface may be the G Plan? ) which allows MOST foods but categorises them into red, amber and green.
Green foods are good foods and can be eaten daily - ie fruit, veg, fish, pulses etc
Amber foods are things you can still eat but not as often - brown bread, dairy, pasta etc
Red foods are the danger zone - usually loaded with fat or sugar and to be eaten as an occasional treat.
The Atkins Diet was all the rage a few years ago and is good for a quick fix but should NEVER be followed for more than a few weeks.
The idea of Atkins was good inasmuch as you cut out all refined sugar and processed foods and eat more wholesome and fresh food but the balance between protein, fats and carbs wasn't good.
I would recommend anyone wanting to lose weight to join something like a Weight Watchers class. The meals are very well balanced, you get the support of the group and leader and the success rate is one of the highest around.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure you have the right balance of carbs, protein, fat and fibre that you need to stay healthy.......and good luck!
Quote by Theladyisaminx
Fruits and potatoes were imported to this country they were not grow as a natural food supply younders ago wink

We have always had fruits in this country.
Maybe not tropical ones like bananas etc. granted, but c'mon Minxy, the rolling orchards, woodlands and hedgerows of this little island of ours have always been chock full of fruits.
What do you think the hunters and gatherers of days of yore survived on?
Quote by noladreams30
Fruits and potatoes were imported to this country they were not grow as a natural food supply younders ago wink

We have always had fruits in this country.
Maybe not tropical ones like bananas etc. granted, but c'mon Minxy, the rolling orchards, woodlands and hedgerows of this little island of ours have always been chock full of fruits.
What do you think the hunters and gatherers of days of yore survived on?
sorry my mistake hubby said some fruits not citrus etc. but berries apples pears plums are ok?
okay im going to stick my neck out here and be serious for at least this answer. I used to be 23 stone - I tried all types of diet and only the following worked for me. I am cautiously saying for me...... oh and peanuts are not nuts - bin em!
1. I threw out all ready and packeted meals - they contain huge amounts of salt and excess sugar - for those who think they know - corn syrup is a main component in many meals and meats as is cheaper than sugar - it is a thickening and bulking agent.
2. Avoid the crisp/sweet aisle
3. Buy fresh veg and Meat/ Fish - cut all fat off red meat and only have once a week - Rabbit and venison are low in fat if good cuts.
4. Exercise 3 times a week for at least an hour - cardio and weights.
5. Walk if its under 2 miles - I dont care if its raining.
6. Park the farthest distance from the Shopping centre in the car park lol
7. Learn to cook properly.
8. Consult your doctor about more tips - they will tell you to exercise more so do it.
9. Watch the weight fall off
lol
If there's anything in this, I would think it's not so much a case of going back in time to see what this country produced, but more what your country of origin produced. For example, someone with Italian ancestry would surely be better off on a mediteranian diet?
In fact, the more I think about this, the more sense it makes. If you consider that the 'ancients' were mostly non-nomadic, then the evolutionary process would selectively weed out those who had an adverse reaction to the local produce, thus those who survived would have been better suited to that diet.
Well it makes sense to me. ;-)
Food is food - you can survive on most non-harmful organic componds if prepared correctly - There are too many theories and pills to try to solve the fat conundrum - we all know deep down it is just we are idle - when times were old people worked hard and played the same - now we eat the same volume and do a fraction of the exercise.... thats my 2 penneth worth - btw we were all nomadic - thats how the globe filled up biggrin
ooo - ooo - beer! - peasants used to get most of their vitamins iron and other minerals to suppliment a poor diet by drinking ale....the temperance movement caused more damage in 10 years than anyone would care to realise....I'll shut up now - good luck with the diet x
Quote by Crashnnix
okay im going to stick my neck out here and be serious for at least this answer. I used to be 23 stone - I tried all types of diet and only the following worked for me. I am cautiously saying for me...... oh and peanuts are not nuts - bin em!
1. I threw out all ready and packeted meals - they contain huge amounts of salt and excess sugar - for those who think they know - corn syrup is a main component in many meals and meats as is cheaper than sugar - it is a thickening and bulking agent.
2. Avoid the crisp/sweet aisle
3. Buy fresh veg and Meat/ Fish - cut all fat off red meat and only have once a week - Rabbit and venison are low in fat if good cuts.
4. Exercise 3 times a week for at least an hour - cardio and weights.
5. Walk if its under 2 miles - I dont care if its raining.
6. Park the farthest distance from the Shopping centre in the car park lol
7. Learn to cook properly.
8. Consult your doctor about more tips - they will tell you to exercise more so do it.
9. Watch the weight fall off
lol

well said that man.
Obesity is a problem of the western world. I talk daily to people about their diet and am amazed at what they eat. So much junk food ping food and take aways. Does no one cook any more?
3 balanced meals a day, no picking in between, not oversized portions, and a daily walk or exercise.
Diet is a lifetime issue not just till you get down to your desired weight then eat like a pig n put it back on.
Fad diets are dangerous - Dr Atkins died of an heart attack following his own diet.
Food should be enjoyed and satisfy a need.
Quote by midsprincess
okay im going to stick my neck out here and be serious for at least this answer. I used to be 23 stone - I tried all types of diet and only the following worked for me. I am cautiously saying for me...... oh and peanuts are not nuts - bin em!
1. I threw out all ready and packeted meals - they contain huge amounts of salt and excess sugar - for those who think they know - corn syrup is a main component in many meals and meats as is cheaper than sugar - it is a thickening and bulking agent.
2. Avoid the crisp/sweet aisle
3. Buy fresh veg and Meat/ Fish - cut all fat off red meat and only have once a week - Rabbit and venison are low in fat if good cuts.
4. Exercise 3 times a week for at least an hour - cardio and weights.
5. Walk if its under 2 miles - I dont care if its raining.
6. Park the farthest distance from the Shopping centre in the car park lol
7. Learn to cook properly.
8. Consult your doctor about more tips - they will tell you to exercise more so do it.
9. Watch the weight fall off
lol

well said that man.
Obesity is a problem of the western world. I talk daily to people about their diet and am amazed at what they eat. So much junk food ping food and take aways. Does no one cook any more?
3 balanced meals a day, no picking in between, not oversized portions, and a daily walk or exercise.
Diet is a lifetime issue not just till you get down to your desired weight then eat like a pig n put it back on.
Fad diets are dangerous - Dr Atkins died of an heart attack following his own diet.
Food should be enjoyed and satisfy a need.
:thumbup:
Everything in moderation, and exercise exercise EXERCISE!!!
I weigh the least when I exercise properly, and eat the most, provided it is healthy. Simple as, simple does.
There was a programme on b2- horizon tonight, that was showing research to say that there are many more factors involved, which I felt was giving people an excuse to be fat, rather than encourage people to be a healthy weight!
if our arms bent the other way how would we eat??.... rolleyes
Thers only one reason for being fat, eating too much! However anyone wants to dress it up and excuse it. Even those with medical conditions that don't help the situation must realise that it is still a case of too much food. A medical condition just means that has to be considered and taken into account when eating. Hell fire im a big big guy and I know that i am and that its my fault i'm a foodaholic and unlike a drug user or an alcoholic I cant abstain from food. So help me god!
Fuckingbastardshittingfoodfuckinghatethebloodystuffandhatemeforlovinghatingitandyesimightbeafatwan
kerbutidontwantobebastardshite
I have lost 15 kilo's (two stone) since end October and have five to go with a target end date of mid March.
I took the view that a short term 'diet' was pointless and have decided to change my life because I know that bread, chocolate and biscuits were my downfall. I knew though that to lose weight initially I would have to make some big changes. So............
1) Breakfast is now a banana or a couple of apples and a coffee. (As opposed to cereal and/or toast)
2) Lunch tends to be fruit, salad or soup (no bread). (As opposed to baguette / roll / main meal)
3) Dinner is vegetables and pork or chicken or fish. (As opposed to a fully plated meal)
Evening snacks of crisps/chocolate/biscuits are now just a thing of the past.
I have cut out bread and potatoes and of course just accept that chocolate and biscuits are gone forever. I do enjoy treats like cheese and yogurts but in much smaller portions than before. Another thing was to change the plate sie that my food was served - I now eat off a mid size plate as opposed to a big dinner plate.
Perhaps the most important thing I did though was to make a day to day spread sheet of target weight against actual weight. It has kept me very focused and whilst there were sometimes days and days of no loss at all it was mostly, very possible to see the effects of over portions and the resultant effects of trying harder. I aimed to lose 2 kilo's a week and the fisrst five came off within two weeks. The next ten took a couple of months and this last five is proving a real chalenge but having seen and felt the results it has given great motivation.
Regular weighing this will enable me to have a more accurate long term weight management as effects of over/under eating can quickly be seen and therefore managed.
Quote by Cubes
If there's anything in this, I would think it's not so much a case of going back in time to see what this country produced, but more what your country of origin produced. For example, someone with Italian ancestry would surely be better off on a mediteranian diet?
In fact, the more I think about this, the more sense it makes. If you consider that the 'ancients' were mostly non-nomadic, then the evolutionary process would selectively weed out those who had an adverse reaction to the local produce, thus those who survived would have been better suited to that diet.
Well it makes sense to me. ;-)

Yes cubes you are right, take the chinese for instance they have longer intestines which helps in the digestion of rice.
Quote by markz
if our arms bent the other way how would we eat??.... rolleyes

I would like to be in your mind for a day I couldn't cope with any more than that! lol
2 years ago I did a diet that was focused on protein mainly and reduced carbs. I still had fruit and veggies but to a lesser extent than normal. Potatoes were allowed but only sweet potatoes (less starchy I believe??). Absolutely no bread or sugary things were allowed, no alcohol.
I lost an impressive 26lbs in 6 weeks, but I have to say by the end I was so bored and there is not a cat in hells chance will I ever follow that again, it was simply ridiculous and boring :sleeping:
I'm still trying to find a way of losing weight that will suit my lifestyle (ie., cooking for a family, working shifts etc.,), but what I do know is I feel much better when I cut out bread and go for crispbreads instead, far less bloated.
I think also any diet that makes you cut out fruit and veg is idiotic.
Quote by Too Hot
I have lost 15 kilo's (two stone) since end October and have five to go with a target end date of mid March.
I took the view that a short term 'diet' was pointless and have decided to change my life because I know that bread, chocolate and biscuits were my downfall. I knew though that to lose weight initially I would have to make some big changes. So............
1) Breakfast is now a banana or a couple of apples and a coffee. (As opposed to cereal and/or toast)
2) Lunch tends to be fruit, salad or soup (no bread). (As opposed to baguette / roll / main meal)
3) Dinner is vegetables and pork or chicken or fish. (As opposed to a fully plated meal)
Evening snacks of crisps/chocolate/biscuits are now just a thing of the past.
I have cut out bread and potatoes and of course just accept that chocolate and biscuits are gone forever. I do enjoy treats like cheese and yogurts but in much smaller portions than before. Another thing was to change the plate sie that my food was served - I now eat off a mid size plate as opposed to a big dinner plate.
Perhaps the most important thing I did though was to make a day to day spread sheet of target weight against actual weight. It has kept me very focused and whilst there were sometimes days and days of no loss at all it was mostly, very possible to see the effects of over portions and the resultant effects of trying harder. I aimed to lose 2 kilo's a week and the fisrst five came off within two weeks. The next ten took a couple of months and this last five is proving a real chalenge but having seen and felt the results it has given great motivation.
Regular weighing this will enable me to have a more accurate long term weight management as effects of over/under eating can quickly be seen and therefore managed.

Well done on your weight loss lol
However, I do have to say, from working in Health, if what you write is typical of your daily intake, long term you could be putting yourself at risk. You only eat a small portion of protein at evening meals and your breakfast should be more filling, I would have thought anyway.
From what I can gather, you should have one of the food types with every meal, ie., eggs on toast (only one slice wink ) for brekki, yes soup for lunch but finish with yoghurt and fruit and your evening meal sounds fine.
I'm no expert as I say I just worry about the long term implications on your health, your bones and your vitamin intake etc.,
Quote by Cubes
If there's anything in this, I would think it's not so much a case of going back in time to see what this country produced, but more what your country of origin produced. For example, someone with Italian ancestry would surely be better off on a mediteranian diet?
In fact, the more I think about this, the more sense it makes. If you consider that the 'ancients' were mostly non-nomadic, then the evolutionary process would selectively weed out those who had an adverse reaction to the local produce, thus those who survived would have been better suited to that diet.
Well it makes sense to me. ;-)

But now people are more nomadic, the indigenous population is no longer by any means pure (and indeed Anglo-saxons never were). If you say an Italian should follow a Mediterranean diet, what about a person with a distant relative of Mediterranean origin? Or someone with more recent 'blend' of genetic material from remote populations?
I agree that we should rely more on the foods that can be produced in this country and less on imported produce. More from the point of view that the food is likely to be fresher and less 'treated' to enhance it's longevity, as well as the carbon footprint issues. As in all dietary regimes, a balanced and healthy nutritional pattern for life will always be more successful than a fad diet that is overly restrictive and unsatisfying. Everything in moderation lol
simple really do wat i do
ditch the diets
n enjoy bein a fat bird
works for me :thrilled:
Yep I guess that sums me up most of the time too :laughabove:
Plenty of sex can count towards exercise - I think 5 portions a day will do for starters......... hump
I beg to differ lost. I was for many years a very fit person,(being a gymnast for the county team) then 10 years ago was diagnosed with a very painful condition called rhumatoid arthritus,which effects the whole body, not only the joints, since when i have been on steroids. I have over those past years put on weight due to my medication, regardless of the amount of exercise i do. I cycle 10 miles a day,(weather permitting) and when my joints allow it i exercise 3 times and week, and still am unable to lose the weight. My diet is governed by my illness, and so i have a very strict diet. Now tell me that being fat is due to eating to much.
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Thers only one reason for being fat, eating too much! However anyone wants to dress it up and excuse it. Even those with medical conditions that don't help the situation must realise that it is still a case of too much food. A medical condition just means that has to be considered and taken into account when eating. Hell fire im a big big guy and I know that i am and that its my fault i'm a foodaholic and unlike a drug user or an alcoholic I cant abstain from food. So help me god!
Fuckingbastardshittingfoodfuckinghatethebloodystuffandhatemeforlovinghatingitandyesimightbeafatwan
kerbutidontwantobebastardshite
Focusing on diet rather than exercise-
Modern medical thinking is moving towards the fact that we each have a built in ideal weight that our systems endeavour to maintain, thats why some folk find being an ideal weight easy and others dont.
You will find the "professionals" endorsing a high carbohydrate low fat diet. This has never made any sense to me given that carbs cant be turned into protein or fatty acids (both of which are essential for good health) whilst protein and fats can be converted into the fuel your body needs.
In case the cholesterol issue raises its head can I just say that dietary cholesterol has a minimal impact on blood lipids. Genetic factors are far more important as is the health of your liver and other organs.
What also makes sense to me is that if you want to fatten up a pig you feed it grain not steak.
Historically, until 10 to 20 thousand years ago human beings were fundamentally hunter gatherers and did not eat a huge amounts of carbohydrate. It simply wasnt available.
I endeavour to limit my carb intake with a view to achieving "normal" blood sugar levels. I have to be careful tho cos if its from a grain, a fruit ( including tomatoes) or milk its probably high in carbs. I refuse to eat anything unless I know whats in it. It works well and since starting on this endeavour I have also managed to lose about a pound a week.
Quote by jaymar
I have lost 15 kilo's (two stone) since end October and have five to go with a target end date of mid March.
I took the view that a short term 'diet' was pointless and have decided to change my life because I know that bread, chocolate and biscuits were my downfall. I knew though that to lose weight initially I would have to make some big changes. So............
1) Breakfast is now a banana or a couple of apples and a coffee. (As opposed to cereal and/or toast)
2) Lunch tends to be fruit, salad or soup (no bread). (As opposed to baguette / roll / main meal)
3) Dinner is vegetables and pork or chicken or fish. (As opposed to a fully plated meal)
Evening snacks of crisps/chocolate/biscuits are now just a thing of the past.
I have cut out bread and potatoes and of course just accept that chocolate and biscuits are gone forever. I do enjoy treats like cheese and yogurts but in much smaller portions than before. Another thing was to change the plate sie that my food was served - I now eat off a mid size plate as opposed to a big dinner plate.
Perhaps the most important thing I did though was to make a day to day spread sheet of target weight against actual weight. It has kept me very focused and whilst there were sometimes days and days of no loss at all it was mostly, very possible to see the effects of over portions and the resultant effects of trying harder. I aimed to lose 2 kilo's a week and the fisrst five came off within two weeks. The next ten took a couple of months and this last five is proving a real chalenge but having seen and felt the results it has given great motivation.
Regular weighing this will enable me to have a more accurate long term weight management as effects of over/under eating can quickly be seen and therefore managed.

Well done on your weight loss lol
However, I do have to say, from working in Health, if what you write is typical of your daily intake, long term you could be putting yourself at risk. You only eat a small portion of protein at evening meals and your breakfast should be more filling, I would have thought anyway.
From what I can gather, you should have one of the food types with every meal, ie., eggs on toast (only one slice wink ) for brekki, yes soup for lunch but finish with yoghurt and fruit and your evening meal sounds fine.
I'm no expert as I say I just worry about the long term implications on your health, your bones and your vitamin intake etc.,
I take on what you are saying but this is my intake during the target weight loss phase, it is not the plan to continue this regime on a continuous basis. From watching the scales on a daily basis I have a pretty good idea what intake will be required to maintain an equilibrium and I will certainly be having a more significant breakfast once I have hit target. Hopefully it will then just be a case of monitoring and eating sensibly and sensible sized portions.
Quote by mazandden
okay im going to stick my neck out here and be serious for at least this answer. I used to be 23 stone - I tried all types of diet and only the following worked for me. I am cautiously saying for me...... oh and peanuts are not nuts - bin em!
1. I threw out all ready and packeted meals - they contain huge amounts of salt and excess sugar - for those who think they know - corn syrup is a main component in many meals and meats as is cheaper than sugar - it is a thickening and bulking agent.
2. Avoid the crisp/sweet aisle
3. Buy fresh veg and Meat/ Fish - cut all fat off red meat and only have once a week - Rabbit and venison are low in fat if good cuts.
4. Exercise 3 times a week for at least an hour - cardio and weights.
5. Walk if its under 2 miles - I dont care if its raining.
6. Park the farthest distance from the Shopping centre in the car park lol
7. Learn to cook properly.
8. Consult your doctor about more tips - they will tell you to exercise more so do it.
9. Watch the weight fall off
lol

well said that man.
Obesity is a problem of the western world. I talk daily to people about their diet and am amazed at what they eat. So much junk food ping food and take aways. Does no one cook any more?
3 balanced meals a day, no picking in between, not oversized portions, and a daily walk or exercise.
Diet is a lifetime issue not just till you get down to your desired weight then eat like a pig n put it back on.
Fad diets are dangerous - Dr Atkins died of an heart attack following his own diet.
Food should be enjoyed and satisfy a need.
:thumbup:
Everything in moderation, and exercise exercise EXERCISE!!!
I weigh the least when I exercise properly, and eat the most, provided it is healthy. Simple as, simple does.
There was a programme on b2- horizon tonight, that was showing research to say that there are many more factors involved, which I felt was giving people an excuse to be fat, rather than encourage people to be a healthy weight!
Eat healthy, moderate exercise and like youself as people come in different shapes & sizessmile
I saw that program and found it interesting. I am large overwieght person with a low metabolic rate who is fit but not megga fit but I like exercise. I do a cardio work out 1 to 2 times a week and the weights 2 times a week spending 3 to 4 sesions at the gym depending on how much spare time I have, 1 exercise class, I sometimes swim, 2 hrs of taekwondo a week, sex and I work.
I eat healthy but im not pefect do have bad foods so as a treat (Xmas I had to many treats) and I am still overwieght. In the end I would like to be apreciated for just being me size 16 to 18 and not feel presure to be smaller.