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Warming the Bed
I wanted to post this in the "Photo's" thread but it was understandably locked for going off-topic; so maybe I can start a new one.
I am sure I was not alone to be amused when I saw members beings described as "morron's". Previously, I had been mildly irritated by the use of the apostrophe where none belonged but I am aware I can be terribly pedantic over such things, and, well, annoying; so I said nothing.
But does that kind of thing bother you as much as it does me? I think it's the willful ignorance that irritates me so. There really is no excuse these days. We all write emails and posts and whatever else pretty much every day. We all make typos and genuine mistakes but to me peppering your correspondence with child-like errors is just laziness and lacking in respect for the person doing the reading.
And don't even get me started on the '8 Items or less' sign! I am sure they do it to on purpose!
Richard (being pedantic).
Being one of those people who frequently puts her apostrophes in the wrong place, can you explain to me the difference between 's and s' please ?
I like to be grammatically (?sp) correct wherever possible, but find that I get confused with this rule confused
Thanks!
Minx x (No assisted learning when I was in school).
Quote by BiWelshMinx
Being one of those people who frequently puts her apostrophes in the wrong place, can you explain to me the difference between 's and s' please ?
I like to be grammatically (?sp) correct wherever possible, but find that I get confused with this rule confused
Thanks!
Minx x (No assisted learning when I was in school).

Oooh can I explain in detail at Bristol - please....please???
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Warming the Bed
Being one of those people who frequently puts her apostrophes in the wrong place, can you explain to me the difference between 's and s' please ?

Well, the apostrophe before the 'S' is possessive and singular. After the 'S' it is possessive and plural.
If something belongs to one person you say, for instance: the plumber's tool. This means there is only one plumber and the tool is his.
If there is more than one plumber and the tool belongs to all of them you write it: the plumbers' tool. This is a possessive plural.
Why did I use 'plumber's tool' as an example? You decide. ;)
Richard
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Being one of those people who frequently puts her apostrophes in the wrong place, can you explain to me the difference between 's and s' please ?
I like to be grammatically (?sp) correct wherever possible, but find that I get confused with this rule confused
Thanks!
Minx x (No assisted learning when I was in school).

Oooh can I explain in detail at Bristol - please....please???
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The job is yours (does that need the s' as you own it?) Mr Essence :thumbup:
kiss
x x
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Being one of those people who frequently puts her apostrophes in the wrong place, can you explain to me the difference between 's and s' please ?

Well, the apostrophe before the 'S' is possessive and singular. After the 'S' it is possessive and plural.
If something belongs to one person you say, for instance: the plumber's tool. This means there is only one plumber and the tool is his.
If there is more than one plumber and the tool belongs to all of them you write it: the plumbers' tool. This is a possessive plural.
Why did I use 'plumber's tool' as an example? You decide. ;)
Richard
Ahhh that's how it works!
Muchos gracias amigo :thumbup:
If that was a cryptic question at the end or one required to make me think in any way I am afraid I will have to pass as I am already 6 minutes late confused
Thanks again!
Minx x x
P.s Choon, how is your quantum physics? I am struggling myself..maybe at Bristol.... ? ;)
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There really is no excuse these days. We all write emails and posts and whatever else pretty much every day.
Not everybody does, lets not assume that.
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We all make typos and genuine mistakes but to me peppering your correspondence with child-like errors is just laziness and lacking in respect for the person doing the reading.
That's true... yes it can distract from a valid point on an issue said person is trying raise but as long as we all get the central idea or the essence of what's being said it will not or should not be a problem.
If the said correspondence was a post or reply my attitude will be to accept it (or if I new them I wud rip the piss outta them biggrin )
...because one of the major facets of being a swinger IS tolerance! dunno
Is it possible that posts like these can put off the insights & views of others who may not feel confident about their perception of the Queens English?
Let's not put up any barriers
cool thanks for that i never knew always great to learn new things even at my age blink :thumbup:
and ladies by the way im a plumber so if your pipes need looking at and want to use this plumber's tool feel free to pm me wink :wink:
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this "jiberish" looks all the 'bloody' same to me :silly: :taz: :kissmyarse: wink
Warming the Bed
That's true... yes it can distract from a valid point on an issue said person is trying raise but as long as we all get the central idea or the essence of what's being said it will not or should not be a problem.

You make a good point; but when someone refers to others as 'morron's' I think the limit of my tolerance is reached and breached!
Richard
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I wanted to post this in the "Photo's" thread but it was understandably locked for going off-topic; so maybe I can start a new one.
I am sure I was not alone to be amused when I saw members beings described as "morron's". Previously, I had been mildly irritated by the use of the apostrophe where none belonged but I am aware I can be terribly pedantic over such things, and, well, annoying; so I said nothing.
But does that kind of thing bother you as much as it does me? I think it's the willful ignorance that irritates me so. There really is no excuse these days. We all write emails and posts and whatever else pretty much every day. We all make typos and genuine mistakes but to me peppering your correspondence with child-like errors is just laziness and lacking in respect for the person doing the reading.
And don't even get me started on the '8 Items or less' sign! I am sure they do it to on purpose!
Richard (being pedantic).

Have you been going through the Punctuation cupboard by any chance?? poke MikeNorth's s'posed to be in charge of that, and never normally leaves the door open ........ quite the opposite in fact, he often forgets to issue newbies with a Punctuation Pack, and the poor buggers end up in a right mess, with sentences 29 lines long and not even a comma in sight - by the time people have read their post/ad/profile, they're too out of breath to even think of shagging em confused
While we're on the subjuect, can I confess that I don't know the difference between'our' and'are' redface Sheddy finds this hilarious and has tried to explain it to me but to no avail :cry:
I have a vague recolection of a lesson on this at school but think I was more interested in whether I had any nail varnish to match a new outfit or something like that and so never leart it. Then because everyone else knew the difference between them I never liked to ask.
Please can someone explain it for me in a way that is understandable to blonde confused
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While we're on the subjuect, can I confess that I don't know the difference between'our' and'are' redface Sheddy finds this hilarious and has tried to explain it to me but to no avail :cry:
I have a vague recolection of a lesson on this at school but think I was more interested in whether I had any nail varnish to match a new outfit or something like that and so never leart it. Then because everyone else knew the difference between them I never liked to ask.
Please can someone explain it for me in a way that is understandable to blonde confused

Where areyou going?
This is ourhouse
does that help because if you ask me to explain the noun verb stuff you need someone else lol
our = belonging to us
are isn't lol Actually how the feck do you define are, you either are or you aren't :lol:
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Where areyou going?
This is ourhouse
does that help because if you ask me to explain the noun verb stuff you need someone else lol

nope, still don't get it redface
nevermind, if I've made it 25 years not knowing, I guess I can manage another 25 smile
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While we're on the subjuect, can I confess that I don't know the difference between'our' and'are' redface Sheddy finds this hilarious and has tried to explain it to me but to no avail :cry:
I have a vague recolection of a lesson on this at school but think I was more interested in whether I had any nail varnish to match a new outfit or something like that and so never leart it. Then because everyone else knew the difference between them I never liked to ask.
Please can someone explain it for me in a way that is understandable to blonde confused



dunno
By the way... when I want to know I go to Google and use the define option - e.g. define: our
wink
Quote by Ukwineman
While we're on the subjuect, can I confess that I don't know the difference between'our' and'are' redface Sheddy finds this hilarious and has tried to explain it to me but to no avail :cry:
I have a vague recolection of a lesson on this at school but think I was more interested in whether I had any nail varnish to match a new outfit or something like that and so never leart it. Then because everyone else knew the difference between them I never liked to ask.
Please can someone explain it for me in a way that is understandable to blonde confused

Where areyou going?
This is ourhouse
does that help because if you ask me to explain the noun verb stuff you need someone else lol
That's cos of your accent hun!
you pronounce both those words the same- I pronounce our like 'hour' and are like the letter r, whereas you pronounce them both like the letter r so they both sound the same!
Our means belonging to, are is a description or a question......
Are you going to our house? ie question of where and description of where-is that what you are going to do, go to the place belonging to us?
Ha ha that made no sense! lol :lol:
Well i don't care about spelling punctuation or grammer
Because i'm DYSLEXIC and proud of it :P
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P.s Choon, how is your quantum physics? I am struggling myself..maybe at Bristol.... ? ;)

I have a very attractive little quark I'd like to show you!!
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Why is dyslexia so bloody hard to spell anyway??? confused
Yes Richard, I was annoyed at that persons usage of name calling..
"MORON - a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment. "
I would say the advice you were given in the very first place was not stupid, not lacking in good judgement, on the contrary it was very wise and fair. You cannot go calling people 'morons' unless you fully know each and every one of them. Sorry like.

This was my answer to him, and I am sure many will back me up in saying he had no right to call anyone regardless of how bad his spelling was.
BUT, I have to agree and disagree slightly with you on the usage of apostrophes. Yes I agree with your comments on the correct and incorrect usage of them but we cannot sit and judge and jury to people who cannot really spell that well or use correct abbreviations. This site isn't about reading and writing skills or is it? (correct me if I'm wrong I don't mind wink )
By the way, does anyone tell you you have a look of one of the 'Baldwin' brothers?? mmmm lol
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By the way, does anyone tell you you have a look of one of the 'Baldwin' brothers?? mmmm lol

If you look at his profile pic, I think he has a look of Nicolas Cage!!!
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By the way, does anyone tell you you have a look of one of the 'Baldwin' brothers?? mmmm lol

If you look at his profile pic, I think he has a look of Nicolas Cage!!!
Yes! I can see that too! :lol: but on one pic defo the Baldwin brother who was in that ooh so rude film with Sharon Stone
Richard AKA Screwtape, you are clearly the man to help me here.
I feel we may have a situation...
Take the following example for a fictitious person:
John Davies is concerned over tomorrow's forecast for snow in London because...
1) John Davies' car is not easy to drive on slippery roads
or should it be:
2) John Davies's car is not easy to drive on slippery roads.
According to my basic knowledge of English grammar, sentence 1 is correct, but I have received letters from authorities where they have used sentence 2.
My question is thus: does one leave the "s" after the apostrophe if the preceding word is a person's name that ends in "s"?
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My question is thus: does one leave the "s" after the apostrophe if the preceding word is a person's name that ends in "s"?

No, you don't. Example one is correct.
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Richard AKA Screwtape, you are clearly the man to help me here.
I feel we may have a situation...
Take the following example for a fictitious person:
John Davies is concerned over tomorrow's forecast for snow in London because...
1) John Davies' car is not easy to drive on slippery roads
or should it be:
2) John Davies's car is not easy to drive on slippery roads.
According to my basic knowledge of English grammar, sentence 1 is correct, but I have received letters from authorities where they have used sentence 2.
My question is thus: does one leave the "s" after the apostrophe if the preceding word is a person's name that ends in "s"?

When a word ends in "s" you put the apostrophe at the end as it then becomes a double "s" ss which wouldn't look right. So Davies is the surname and would then be Davies' whatever it was.. lol
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I am sure I was not alone to be amused when I saw members beings described as "morron's". Previously, I had been mildly irritated by the use of the apostrophe where none belonged but I am aware I can be terribly pedantic over such things, and, well, annoying; so I said nothing.
But does that kind of thing bother you as much as it does me? I think it's the willful ignorance that irritates me so.

I would just like to point out that this punctuation mark:- " - is NOT an apostrophe, it is a direct quotation mark. An apostrophe could be used in the following sentence (with direct quotation marks in the correct place):-
If Screwtape can't spell "willful" correctly, then why does he criticize others for bad grammar?!
I miss hyphens :cry: :cry: :cry:
I beg to differ - I quoted Screwtape directly by using his spelling of "willful". Had I paraphrased and applied my own correct spelling of 'wilful', I would have used the single indirect quotation mark as you say.
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I am sure I was not alone to be amused when I saw members beings described as "morron's". Previously, I had been mildly irritated by the use of the apostrophe where none belonged but I am aware I can be terribly pedantic over such things, and, well, annoying; so I said nothing.
But does that kind of thing bother you as much as it does me? I think it's the willful ignorance that irritates me so.

I would just like to point out that this punctuation mark:- " - is NOT an apostrophe, it is a direct quotation mark. An apostrophe could be used in the following sentence (with direct quotation marks in the correct place):-
If Screwtape can't spell "willful" correctly, then why does he criticize others for bad grammar?!
I miss hyphens :cry: :cry: :cry:
You're right -nobody's perfect - as someone often reminds me!! :giggle:
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