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Are single, desperate males something we just have to put up

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Yes this is the 21st Century, times change, people change, things change.
Swinging has evolved from the original days of car keys and couples.
BDSM, Voyeurism, dogging, cuckolding exhibitionism are just a few of the activities that have been incorporated into the scene.
The cosistent factors which should remain are:
Give and take.
Respect.
Being non-judgemental (difficult for human beings)
live and let live
What we do is not to everyones liking, we swingers above all should understand that others dont share our views and let them get on with it.
When I go to the supermarket people do things I dont like, they push trollies into me, they leave trolleys in the middle of the aisle so I cant get past, they stand chatting in groups in the middle of the walkways making passage impossible.
Life is like that, in everything we do we will find people who have no respect for others, I have a choice like everyone else, I can use local shops and keep out of the supermarkets, I can go to swing clubs and keep off the internet sites
There are disrespectfull single males, couples, single females and many hyporcrits, there are many nice, polite, respectfull genuine people.
Quote by atlast___
I was expecting that, but do single fems conduct themselves like some single men on here??
No dave is your answer!
Mrs Atlast x

Some of them do, yes. And there are many lovely single blokes on here.
WOW!!!!!!
Where do I start!!
Well first of all to people who were offended by my post, i genuinely apologise - it was never meant to, i thought it may open a can of worms, but I didnt want to offend, after all its our opinion, which we are entitled to!!!
There were many "tar and brush" comments, and to be fair it maybe did seem like I was doing that, but of course its not like that!! I know there are many decent single blokes on here - I guess with every "hobby" we all do it in our own way, but it can be frustrating and maddening !!!
I think from now on we shall try to be more tolerant - doesnt mean the next time we get a message from a single guy i wont be mad though wink
Quote by atlast___
WOW!!!!!!
Where do I start!!
Well first of all to people who were offended by my post, i genuinely apologise - it was never meant to, i thought it may open a can of worms, but I didnt want to offend, after all its our opinion, which we are entitled to!!!

Thank you for the apology, but I am as used to the apology that follows this particular line of discussion, as I am to being tarred with the single male brush.
Yours sincerely,
one of those single males.
Quote by Reacher359
<<<< Is waiting to be tarred....
Can someone also tell me where the bdsm chatroom is located lol :lol:

wave Hello stranger!
Lovely to see you on the forum kiss
Nola x
ahhh well i reckon singles aint swingers they just facilitate couples who want to swing : D Hey even a lot of singles use the the term swingle which is cool I think as its distinct from swingers.
As for answering your point Flower hmmmmm just means you can polish up your answer skills methinks laddie biggrin New people have got to learn how things are in forum and I think that the apology is a great start and thank them for being so qick with issuing it.
Good post At last and welcome to Swinging heaven forum - Its good to see people posting after such great opening post - sort of dusts some of the oldies off i think D
Quote by flower411
ahhh well i reckon singles aint swingers they just facilitate couples who want to swing : D Hey even a lot of singles use the the term swingle which is cool I think as its distinct from swingers.
As for answering your point Flower hmmmmm just means you can polish up your answer skills methinks laddie biggrin New people have got to learn how things are in forum and I think that the apology is a great start and thank them for being so qick with issuing it.
Good post At last and welcome to Swinging heaven forum - Its good to see people posting after such great opening post - sort of dusts some of the oldies off i think D

I`ll answer anybody in the open if the thread stays open long enough but I reserve the right to ignore pm`s.
:laughabove::laughabove:
Quote by Lost
ahhh well i reckon singles aint swingers they just facilitate couples who want to swing : D Hey even a lot of singles use the the term swingle which is cool I think as its distinct from swingers.
As for answering your point Flower hmmmmm just means you can polish up your answer skills methinks laddie biggrin New people have got to learn how things are in forum and I think that the apology is a great start and thank them for being so qick with issuing it.
Good post At last and welcome to Swinging heaven forum - Its good to see people posting after such great opening post - sort of dusts some of the oldies off i think D

I'll just get in quick... you know, just in case, to say that you can speak for yourself. :mrgreen:
I have not, nor will I ever be a facilitator. flipa
Always an interesting one this. The vanilla world in large considers swinging to be consensual sex between married couples or people in long term relationships. So people arriving here from the vanilla world surprise surprise expect to find exactly that. I can see and remember myself how signing up placing an ad and getting 6 messages from singles can be a bit what the fuck! when you first arrive. My own personal interpretation is that swinging has not taken in various other activities and singles ....
Swinging is consensual sex between married couples or couples in long term relationships.
A couple both having sex with another Male/female is a threesome.
Dogging is a car park activity that we neither want to take part in or agree with.
Each to their own. We are all here under this banner of Swingingheaven but I would not call everyone here a swinger and thats me and Mrs Tweeky included. To me this is sex site with various people looking for various activities. If that cannot be accepted and you cannot ignore the people you dont want to partake in activities with then this probably is not the place for you.
Quote by Cubes
Are single males desperate? Or are they just having to work harder to find what they're looking for? Whether people admit it or not, there's a distinct pecking order in the swinging lifestyle:
1) Single bi fems
2) Single straight fems
3) Couples
4) Single bi men
5) Single straight men
OK... the categories may blur around the middle but you have to agree it's pretty much the way things are. It's like being the worst footie player in the playground: If you don't jump up and down, waving your hand in the air, and shouting "Me! Me! Me!" you'll always end up being the last to get picked.
In my experience as a site moderator I can categorically state that single men are no more likely to cause an upset than single women or couples. In fact, most single men are far more respectful because they know they need to play nice to get a meet. Couples and single fems know they have an upper hand and so don't have to be as respectful.

6) Married Men pretending to be single
7) Married Men admitting they are not single
lol
To add my comment as a chatroom op, I have lost count how many times I've warned a female in the chatrooms for whichever rule they have broken, and basically the response comes back "I have tits, they trump your rules so I'm exempt and you can't chastise me".
Whereas the majority of blokes (single or married) either reply with a "fair cop guv", or an apology cos they hadn't read the rules.
Personally as one of the ladies who gets her boobs and bits out on cam I ignore the whipsers from any unwelcome source, the married guys are just as bad and so are fems who whisper, I acknowlege comments in the room with a reply or a thanks and a smile, I`m very rarely rude to other users in chat and find that just one quick reminder of the rules sorts the problem if they become a problem. We to get mail from guys, some polite some presumptious in thinking we will be interested, even tho we aren`t looking for guys and a quick no thanks usually sorts that too. I would say most guys are very well behaved and then other get the blood rush and it goes from their brains and makes them act like numpties
However I suppose the answer to the original questions is yes, we have to put up with them and they have to put up with the obnoxious and rude behaviour of some couples and fems who also forget how to just say "no thank you".
I welcome attention from "single males" unfortunately they are few and far between
Quote by noladreams
<<<< Is waiting to be tarred....
Can someone also tell me where the bdsm chatroom is located lol :lol:

wave Hello stranger!
Lovely to see you on the forum kiss
Nola x
:wave: :kiss:
Thanks I had to take a short "work" break :lol:
Reacher x
P.s have you read 61 hours yet.....
Quote by Reacher359
wave kiss
Thanks I had to take a short "work" break lol
Reacher x
P.s have you read 61 hours yet.....

Nooooo.... may have to purchase tomorrow for journey reading! wink
Dean n mrs BMW seem to have covered the bases.
There's far more folk on SH we don't want to play with than we do want to play with. Thats life.
All said n done its a community website not dial a fuck.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Dean n mrs BMW seem to have covered the bases.
There's far more folk on SH we don't want to play with than we do want to play with. Thats life.
All said n done its a community website not dial a fuck.

Thats right! This is dial a fuck

Well, I had to look :haha: