Asian Blokes

14 Feb 2006

Quote by easyease
yeah its their loss fabio.........i do think racism comes in varying degrees though.

I disagree that making a decision relating to bad previous experiences of people is racist. Racism in my book requires a malicious intent to act in a prejudicial way towards others of a selected racial grouping.
What is being described, sounds more like the personal self-defence mechanism coming into play and using past experience in order to try to prevent a past negative experience from happening again. It's a completely different and instinctive thought process. Kind of similar to "the last time I played with stinging nettles I hurt myself, so I won't play with them again". I can't see that there is any malice in being self-protective.
Yes you can argue that we are all supposed to be over that sort of stuff now, but next you'll be arguing for "positive discrimination" and that in order to prove themselves non-racist, that every couple or female should shag a given quota of men from all ethnic backgrounds. That ain't gonna work.

14 Feb 2006

people arent stinging nettles they are individuals.

14 Feb 2006

Quote by easyease
people arent stinging nettles they are individuals.

So what's that supposed to mean? We're talking about painful experiences, and I used an illustration to highlight it. Is that the best that you can do?

14 Feb 2006

and i dont think something has to be intended maliciously, to be racist.

14 Feb 2006

so its not racist to tar a whole race with the same brush? ive met dodgy people of all colours and good of all colours.

14 Feb 2006

Quote by easyease
and i dont think something has to be intended maliciously, to be racist.

...did you hear that? George Galloway's calling you. Playtime is over. I'm outa here. rolleyes

14 Feb 2006

yeah ok keep waving your little flag

14 Feb 2006

The use of the word 'preference' still implies that one has made a decision. So the question remains as to how and why the decision is made. Which logically reintroduces the arguments of racism, and experience based prejudice
These are issues which in some cases are difficult to argue. I know I have instinctive prejudices and misconceptions of the unknown or unfamiliar. I like to think I can come to terms with them fairly quickly when meeting different people.
So up to that level of self protective reflexes, I accept that I do practise prejudice in a way that most people do. I don't practise an extreme form of organised racism and I don't join in with institutionalised hatred. Again that is also what most people do.
That is all we can do. Make a statement which is as true as we believe it of ourselves and go out and be prepared to live it.

15 Feb 2006

Would you guys shag a 94 year old wrinkly?
I am guessing regardless of your answer here - the truth in most cases would be "NO"
Why? Would we seriously claim ageism - or would we understand that appart from someone with a granny-porking fetish, you would not find them sexually attractive.
You either want to fuck someone or you don't - the reason for not wanting to shag a person of different race does not have to be racist.

15 Feb 2006

fair comment pololady but what if you shag someone and have a nasty experience of it then decide you will never go with someone of that colour again because, well they are the same colour?
its not just a preference of attractiveness in that case surely?

15 Feb 2006

Quote by easyease
fair comment pololady but what if you shag someone and have a nasty experience of it then decide you will never go with someone of that colour again because, well they are the same colour?
its not just a preference of attractiveness in that case surely?

Can you control who you find attractive?
What triggers an attraction - isn't it a number of factors on a conscious and subconscious level both physical and mental - isn't it also influenced by our social conditioning, experiences and a whole load of other things.
If someone has had an experience which triggers a doubt - the doubt alone can be enough to block any attraction.
You either want to bone a person or you don't.
Edit: Additional comment....
The fact that they have had the experience with a person of that race in itself shows at that time they are not racist - or the experience would not have happened. Their conclusion after the event is not prejudice - as it is after (post-judgement) rather than prior (pre-judgement). Their preference is then influenced by experience. They may of course be wrong in thinking it is likely to be a similar experience next time - but why take the chance?

15 Feb 2006

Quote by PoloLady
What triggers an attraction - isn't it a number of factors on a conscious and subconscious level both physical and mental - isn't it also influenced by our social conditioning, experiences and a whole load of other things.
If someone has had an experience which triggers a doubt - the doubt alone can be enough to block any attraction.

Absolutely agree. I can remember growing up as a kid and watching the wrestling on telly with my dad (4pm on World of Sport) there was one nasty piece of work, a really dirty wrestler called "(first name slips my mind) Logan". He was one of the original baddies in the Wrestling scene. Since then, the experience of seeing him in action has in my mind associated Logans with being in some way dubious characters. It's just one of those things, If I were to meet identical twin ladies who through marriage were now called Mrs Logan and Mrs Disney, have a guess which my mind would make me more at ease with.
Yes on a conscious level, the brain tells me what a twit I am for reacting like this, but subconsciously, or instinctively, it just can't be helped. I'd feel comfortable and at ease with one of them, and not the other.
So, sorry to any of the Logan Clan out there who may feel aggrieved at this, but it's nothing personal or conscious! redface

15 Feb 2006

2 Things i guess...like other peeps, I dont think race has anything to do with it ( unless the people reading it are racist i s,pose)...however someone replied to the post saying that it depends whether your ugly !..good point..and as they say , beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that !..but in my experience so far on the site, i,ve found that there are a " few" individuals, who seem to always have a lot to say, and can be quite cutting in their replies to posts, and the avatar pic which accompanies thier post, bears no resemblance at all to what they actually look like in the flesh ! ( i speak from experience!!)...and yes, dare I say it, the site can be very clicky. Everyone is here for different reasons, although all under the same umberella of " swinging"..Some people seem to think that to " swing" you must first develop a trusting relationship, then go from there..to me, thats what a lot of peeps are trying to get away from..I,m sure ..nay..I know ! that i,m not alone in being turned on by having a sexy encounter with a complete stranger..which is why I like visiting clubs, where wants to ask a million questions before inviting you to take part in a 3 some in a rest room !! So lets all remember that we are all individuals, be we white, black, scottish !!!, TV, bi, straight etc but where we,re all the same is that we,re after some kind of sexual kick !!..AND we,re all adults who should know when its safe or not to meet someone.....i,ll now wait for a million peeps to get on the soapbox and lecture me on what swinging is !! I think I know after 20 years of being on the scene ! nite nite xx

15 Feb 2006

Partyman...you think jimmy Logan was bad....dont u remember Kendo Nagasaki ???!! That guy was so ugly he had to wear a mask !!! Ooooops , there I go calling someone ugly !!