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Quote by JudyTV
Oh go on then Judy - I'll mercy shag you lol
And dammie's still clean shaven wink

Be still my beating heart ! biggrin :D ..So it works then ?
This will be my first mercy shag.......I think :P ... ..Although I was married once :wink: Now that woman really did deserve sympathy and every medal known to humanity.
Jude.

For putting up with you??? ;) kiss
eeeeeeeeeeeeek! bolt
Quote by JudyTV
By the way don't forget we have a parents meeting at the school on Monday night and then I am off to the Teachers and parents swingers meeting so don't be late wink :P :P .

Are you dressing up as a teacher or a parent this time??? confused :? :? :? :wink:
Quote by JudyTV
...I'm happy now with the Transvestite vicar and his boyfriend and we are planning our first addition to the family and have already been to the goat farm and earmarked a couple of potential adoptions...

Reminds me of a late night story we were told in the village.
Incidentally, did you hear about the body they fished out of the canal the other day? I'll tell you about it when I see you next. smile
kiss
Gem. x
Speaking as a Young Asian Man (YAM), this is rather an interesting thread: here are my two pence:
Just to clarify: I am talking about my experience and of people in general - obviously there are exceptions to every rule. And with respect to my experience, I used to be reasonably active in replying to ads and stuff, and had a few replies but they went nowhere, so I stopped - apart from anything else, the odds are just so long I don't think it is worth my time. I have had a fair bit of success at Rio's however.
Having said that, I think the truth is somewhere in between the views expressed here. Firstly, I think it is pretty blatantly obvious that race does matter to a LOT of people. One look at the ads on SH shows that pretty clearly, when you see how many people specify their race preference.
The *reason* for race mattering is a more interesting issue. In my opinion, for most women, I don't think it has much to do with far out things like the status of women in India and Pakistan or whatever - I just don't think that Asian men are seen as sex objects in UK culture - the opposite if anything. Nobody (well, there are some) fantasizes about Asian men, unlike, very obviously, black men, and it shows in the ads..that's all. Similarly, very few women fantasize about really small cocks (although they are probably as rare as really big ones), they fantasize about really big ones and you see that reflected in the ads.
I don't think it is particularly racist - I think a preference is just that - a preference. Like someone posted above, it's not very different from the preference most women have for tall men, or confident, assertive men, or whatever - just another kind of prefernece. I mean, the saying IS "tall, dark and handsome", not "short, dark and handsome", and similarly it's "big black cock", not "big white cock" - these are cultural stereotypes which are pretty accurately reflected in the ads if you ask me. (There are, also, no doubt some women who have had bad experiences with men and decided not to date them or meet them or whatever - may be it's even true that on average experiences with Asian men are worse - I don't know)
In my experience, it is far easier for women (or men) in online ads to succumb to the "list mania" - if you don't fit *exactly* the criteria for a 6 foot 2.5 inch man with grey hair and 9 fingers (or whatever), your ad won't even be looked at, while in person, people can (and do) change their minds and adjust their preferences based on the individual standing in front of them..perhaps that's one of the reasons I've had so much more success at Rios.
For the most part, *when meeting in person*, I think most women are atleast open to the idea of Asian men even if they don't actually fantasize about us..this is probably more true in a "regular" dating situation, and its probably less true in a swinging situation, simply because (for a lot of swingers) its about fulfilling some particular fantasy, and as I said above, those don't often involve Asian men..
Bottom Line: Yes, it is probably harder for an Asian guy to get a meet than a black or white guy, but it's not *that* hard..it's quite doable I think.
Now, I'll stop rambling..
C
Quote by Culum Struan
I don't think it is particularly racist - I think a preference is just that - a preference. Like someone posted above, it's not very different from the preference most women have for tall men, or confident, assertive men, or whatever - just another kind of prefernece.

That about sums it up for me biggrin On our ad, I have stated that we meet white guys only, and that is because it is my preference.... I am not racist by any means and have many asian, black friends but sexually I am not attracted to them.
Shireen
Quote by Shaz_n_Tony
Why is it more difficult for an young (early 30's) Asian bloke to attract swingers? oreso if his 6'4 too! sad

Its not just you.......
Its the fact that the guys far outweigh the number of couples or single females that there is so its up to you to make sure you stand out from the rest...
Looking at your advert, it gives very little information about yourself don't it?
you need to write a better advert, more about yourself, what your looking for, your do's and don'ts, what your good at ect ect ect.......
And how about a couple of pictures, you don't have to put face or cock shots on, just something so they can see a little of what there replying to.
Also its a good idea to post on the forums and get to know members on here and build up trust, we don't bite, were just careful.
make yourself STAND OUT!!!!!
Shaz x
Hi Shaz,
thanx for the advice, i have put a picture on and shall edit the profile as advised......wish me luck!
Zia
Quote by PoloLady
Race has nothing to do with it - it just depends on whether you are ugly or not bolt

Well a pic has now been attached for every one's conveniance x
Quote by partyman
oh dear i hate people who play the race card when they can't get a meet mad

I think he has a point though. I've spoken to lots of ladies and couples over the years, most of whom say the same thing...they don't mind blacks and they don't mind whites, but they don't "do" browns.
The problem is of course beiing brave enough to admit it without being called a racist. I't somehow OK to be "singleist" but you daren't be seen to be racist, even though it all boils down to your own personal preferences and tastes.
One of the main reasons cited for the prejudice that I hear is the attitudes of Asian society towards women. The same goes for Mediterranian Europeans as well mind, so don't feel singled out. But it women in this country have fought long and hard for equal rights and to be treated with equal respect, then there is no surprise that men from cultures that are seen to repress its womenfolk (compared to UK standards) and treat them as second class citizens are treated with suspicion, and that a lack of a desire to mix with them.
Also a general observation here, is that the number of asian single guys at a club outweighs the number of asian couples to a FAR greater extent than is the case with with black and whites. It all adds to the impression of only wanting wanting wanting, and not giving anything back by the Asian culture. (one example, my local club has a regular 5 or 6 asian singles out of a total of 25-odd singles every Friday, but the number of Asian couples at any time (Wed Fri or Sat) is only 1 or 2 (max) out of an aggregate of 250-300 couples per week.
So mziafat, there you have an honest account of my observations of what people will say behind your back, and not to your face, because only with that known to you will you know how to go about re-wording the advert that others have mentioned, to get over the problems that you face. These observations are not necessarily my own point of view, and others will disagree with them in public, but then it's not the public approval that you are after, its the private fun and games...so hopefully this might be of use to you.
Dude,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts so honestly, I know there is a barrier there & alot of people have commented on my profile not having enough info. so as a result i shall edid the profile and give it a few months to see what differance it makes.
Who knows, i may come back on the forum to say 'wow, what a differance' or even the opposite!
Thanks again.
Quote by makingcocoa
Personally, I don't usually fancy Asian men.
Nor do I usually fancy men who are shorter than me.
Nor do I usually fancy men who are more than twice my age.
Nor do I usually fancy TVs.
Nor do I usually fancy skinny women.
Everyone's entitled to personal preferences, and all that means is that none of us is going to shag everyone on the site. But isn't it lucky that there are so many people on this site that there's someone for everyone? Playing the racist card is completely unnecessary, and certainly isn't going to help you get laid. Instead, why not try putting some time and effort into joining in with the site, getting yourself known, coming to a munch, making some friends without trying to shag them, writing a really good ad.... and then see how many people fancy you?

Hi,
Thanks for taking time out to reply back to me with your opinion, I think i may be at error here for making it sound as though am playing the race card, in all honesty i was not and a number of replies have been honest in there responses to acknowledging that there is a barrier, it was a genuine question for peoples honesty.
Thanks for your reply.
Zia
Quote by makingcocoa
Personally, I don't usually fancy Asian men.
Nor do I usually fancy men who are shorter than me.
Nor do I usually fancy men who are more than twice my age.
Nor do I usually fancy TVs.
Nor do I usually fancy skinny women.
Everyone's entitled to personal preferences, and all that means is that none of us is going to shag everyone on the site. But isn't it lucky that there are so many people on this site that there's someone for everyone? Playing the racist card is completely unnecessary, and certainly isn't going to help you get laid. Instead, why not try putting some time and effort into joining in with the site, getting yourself known, coming to a munch, making some friends without trying to shag them, writing a really good ad.... and then see how many people fancy you?
Quote by Culum Struan
Speaking as a Young Asian Man (YAM), this is rather an interesting thread: here are my two pence:
Just to clarify: I am talking about my experience and of people in general - obviously there are exceptions to every rule. And with respect to my experience, I used to be reasonably active in replying to ads and stuff, and had a few replies but they went nowhere, so I stopped - apart from anything else, the odds are just so long I don't think it is worth my time. I have had a fair bit of success at Rio's however.
Having said that, I think the truth is somewhere in between the views expressed here. Firstly, I think it is pretty blatantly obvious that race does matter to a LOT of people. One look at the ads on SH shows that pretty clearly, when you see how many people specify their race preference.
The *reason* for race mattering is a more interesting issue. In my opinion, for most women, I don't think it has much to do with far out things like the status of women in India and Pakistan or whatever - I just don't think that Asian men are seen as sex objects in UK culture - the opposite if anything. Nobody (well, there are some) fantasizes about Asian men, unlike, very obviously, black men, and it shows in the ads..that's all. Similarly, very few women fantasize about really small cocks (although they are probably as rare as really big ones), they fantasize about really big ones and you see that reflected in the ads.
I don't think it is particularly racist - I think a preference is just that - a preference. Like someone posted above, it's not very different from the preference most women have for tall men, or confident, assertive men, or whatever - just another kind of prefernece. I mean, the saying IS "tall, dark and handsome", not "short, dark and handsome", and similarly it's "big black cock", not "big white cock" - these are cultural stereotypes which are pretty accurately reflected in the ads if you ask me. (There are, also, no doubt some women who have had bad experiences with men and decided not to date them or meet them or whatever - may be it's even true that on average experiences with Asian men are worse - I don't know)
In my experience, it is far easier for women (or men) in online ads to succumb to the "list mania" - if you don't fit *exactly* the criteria for a 6 foot 2.5 inch man with grey hair and 9 fingers (or whatever), your ad won't even be looked at, while in person, people can (and do) change their minds and adjust their preferences based on the individual standing in front of them..perhaps that's one of the reasons I've had so much more success at Rios.
For the most part, *when meeting in person*, I think most women are atleast open to the idea of Asian men even if they don't actually fantasize about us..this is probably more true in a "regular" dating situation, and its probably less true in a swinging situation, simply because (for a lot of swingers) its about fulfilling some particular fantasy, and as I said above, those don't often involve Asian men..
Bottom Line: Yes, it is probably harder for an Asian guy to get a meet than a black or white guy, but it's not *that* hard..it's quite doable I think.
Now, I'll stop rambling..
C

YAM,
Thanks for the reply, its good to see that a small number people are looking over the excuse of me 'trying to gain a sympathy shag', i knew before introducing this debate that some people may think of it in a 'race card' manner but as far as i'm concerned it takes abit of courage to bring these things fwd to debate.
Thanks again for your opinion
Good for you mziafat, and what a good looking guy too!
Quote by duncanlondon
Good for you mziafat, and what a good looking guy too!

thanks for the reply pal.
Right,
I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you really do need to consider what you write when you reply to adverts. Many females on here get PMs from a large amount of people and so they can "cherry pick" so to speak.
Even if they have no preference, a one liner referring them to an advert that doesn't exsist won't work for the majority.
Bringing this to the forefront of discussion as you put it will simply grind you even deeper into "playing the race card" hole quicker. People have their personal preferences... for one reason or the other. If you are touchy about a certain thing when swinging is mainly based on lust and sexual attraction, maybe you're in for a bit of a blow (and no the one you hoped for)
I'm all for giving individuals a chance, however, if you don't like other people's preferences, move on, you're not going to change them.
kiss
Gem. x
personally we would never have anything to do with a 6'4" guy . Its a cultural thing . Dont get us wrong , some of our best friends are tall. :shock:
Quote by Silk and Big G
personally we would never have anything to do with a 6'4" guy . Its a cultural thing . Dont get us wrong , some of our best friends are tall. :shock:

Tallist Bastards!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: wink
He edited his advert alright....
he now has none at all lol
Shaz x
Quote by JudyTV
He edited his advert alright....
he now has none at all lol
Shaz x

:P :P :P
and his photo is a really clear, in focus head and shouldes shot...not. In fact it is so out of focus it could be absolutely anyone. That will really reel in the ladies.
I think I will :giveup: on this one. I really need a mercy shag now. I may even put another ad in another category...........do they have a 'Men Seeking Sanity' section?
Jude

Judy??....Surrender??..........Surely, two words that have never been used in the same sentence before :twisted: (Sorry Judy, I’ve just never seen you lost for words or giving up on anything before)
I have watched this post with interest as I have what you might call a "morbid" interest in all the subjects concerned with racist, sizeist(sp), ageist subjects etc.
I have broken my golden rule and actually asked a member of my family to look at this post. (I have a niece that is married to a guy of Pakisatni descent)
I daren't actually let my niece see this site, but I asked my "nephew-in-law" if he'd come over and look at something for me.
I showed him this post saying that it was a “friend” that was registered to the site that needed some advice on what it’s all about etc. He actually told me that he had never had any problems attracting women (before him and my niece married) {We had a real “man to man” talk}
The guy I am talking about is a 5’5” guy who married a 6’2” lady, so there is a very large height gap there. BUT, They are very happy and may they be so for a VERY long time.
mziafat, all I will say to you is that you definitely get out of this site what you put in. I. personally, have put a lot of time and effort in and it has, for me, paid dividends., I have travelled over 50,000 miles in the last year meeting people. I KNOW that I can message someone in Birmingham and tell them that I am on my way to Bournemouth for a coffee/social meet, but I am tired of driving and can I call for a coffee and they will 99% of the time say “yes Marcuso, you know you’re always welcome”
I have met lots of people at a munch/social who haven’t particularly liked me the first time they met me, then they got to know me at a second munch/social and they have taken the time to get to know me and I have been invited over for tea etc. I am a single parent and they have invited me and my son over for a weekend to spend time with them and their kids. The swinging community is not about a “quick shag”……..It’s about a whole community of diverse people from every walk of life who just want to expand their circle of friends and have some bloody good nights out and in in the process.
As for you playing the race card……..well, my nephew-in-law had an objective look and said that you were. Me, I’m more open-minded and willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Get your name down for a munch/social party and let people see the real you instead of what they have perceived from you post. After all, you have only ever been in the forum to post on this one thread. Join in a bit more and get to know people. You’ll be surprised at how friendly we all are.
Just a word or two of advice and in no way meant to be having a go at you.
Marcuso
Quote by makingcocoa
I see your point, NN! I've often wondered whether there are, in fact, a whole group of SHers who are completely successful with their one-liners, and all those posts in LMU get answered by someone in PM and everyone shags happily ever after, and we just don't hear about it because we're all here offering helpful advice and trying to 'make friends' lol There could be a whole successful 'quick shag' element to SH that we just don't know anything about.
It's entirely possible.
!

Indeed it is! :P I know some off here who never even post in the forums who just use the ads only and have lots of fun. In fact I have met most people through the ads and LMU and only one person through the cafe forum.....and even a couple of guys sent me one-liners! lol but they were very good one-liners wink :lol: I also think you
are right that some people PM replies in LMU rather than post in the threads.
There is a place for the quick shag element as not everyone wants to become best friends (in fact quite the opposite as being friends causes unwanted complications). As long as all parties agree on what they want, then there should be no problem biggrin
Quote by berksbex
In fact I have met most people through the ads and LMU

Rushes off to resurrect his ancient LMU thread and update his advert (zero success through LMU other than socials, and have only met two couples as a result of my advert)
Regards
Harry Jones
I like Asian guys, as I do black or white guys. I do have my preferences however and whether you are asian, black or white I do have to find you attractive.
Also, your advert says a lot about you and the lack of information in an advert goes against you too.
So basically, photos, lots of information, show a bit of personality and you will have a lot more success!
wink
Quote by rondatheslut
We agree with "Shaz_n_Tony"
You need to expand your ad, let people know what you are looking for in a meeting and what you can offer. It pays to advertise so put a couple of photos in your ad and on your profile. You also need to complete your profile , putting N/A against smoking or drinking
doesn't mean anything .
Why is it more difficult for an young (early 30's) Asian bloke to attract swingers? oreso if his 6'4 too! sad

Its not just you.......
Its the fact that the guys far outweigh the number of couples or single females that there is so its up to you to make sure you stand out from the rest...
Looking at your advert, it gives very little information about yourself don't it?
you need to write a better advert, more about yourself, what your looking for, your do's and don'ts, what your good at ect ect ect.......
And how about a couple of pictures, you don't have to put face or cock shots on, just something so they can see a little of what there replying to.
Also its a good idea to post on the forums and get to know members on here and build up trust, we don't bite, were just careful.
make yourself STAND OUT!!!!!
Shaz x
i completely agree, to give yourself the best chance you have to have pics and a decent advert or i dont think you will stand a chance, you have to remember there are many chancers on this site and people seeking cheap thrills ( not me of course rolleyes )
Ha ha now you have gor me thinking going to look at my add redface
Hi All. I would like to put my two pennies worth in if that is ok with you experienced lot.
In my limited experience I have found that the "commonly found" asian shape of cock doesn't suit me - can't speak for anyone else of course. I have found that the shaft is rather fat or rounded and the knob small with very little in the way of rim/edge around done some research in the gallery on this site, I have found the same general shape often, and from personal trials have been disappointed.
Has anyone else had the same experience? Just wondered.
Jane
confused: rolleyes
Quote by oohjane
Hi All. I would like to put my two pennies worth in if that is ok with you experienced lot.
In my limited experience I have found that the "commonly found" asian shape of cock doesn't suit me - can't speak for anyone else of course. I have found that the shaft is rather fat or rounded and the knob small with very little in the way of rim/edge around done some research in the gallery on this site, I have found the same general shape often, and from personal trials have been disappointed.
Has anyone else had the same experience? Just wondered.
Jane
confused: rolleyes

can't say i have been that close to have a look, but hey neber say never lol
Quote by HarryJones

In fact I have met most people through the ads and LMU

Rushes off to resurrect his ancient LMU thread and update his advert (zero success through LMU other than socials, and have only met two couples as a result of my advert)
Regards
Harry Jones
Harry passionkiss how are you?
Two is good, and you had fun with thoes two yes? biggrin
Well maybe it's just me, I like annonymous shags sometimes :twisted: lol I can't be the only one, surely? cool
I’d just like to come out and say I don’t do Asian blokes either; it’s just a personal preference. Come to think of it actually I don’t do blokes at all … lol
ive noticed a few racist ads in the photo ads section. this chap was right to bring up the subject. saying that you wont go with a person of a certain colour because you have had bad experience with a few individuals in the past is still judging someone by their colour........in my book thats racism. just a nice politically correct self justified form of it.
anyway i think dev off coronation street has worked wonders for the image of asian men being sexy. im sure there are a lot of housewives who wouldnt say no to him......
Quote by easyease
ive noticed a few racist ads in the photo ads section. this chap was right to bring up the subject. saying that you wont go with a person of a certain colour because you have had bad experience with a few individuals in the past is still judging someone by their colour........in my book thats racism. just a nice politically correct self justified form of it.
anyway i think dev off coronation street has worked wonders for the image of asian men being sexy. im sure there are a lot of housewives who wouldnt say no to him......

actually racist is a bit strong.... if a person doesn't want to play with me because of an experience they have had... or just because of my colour then that isn't the worst loss in the world for me.... like i said before., if they can't see past the colour to see the individual, then they are not a person i would play with in the first place......
but everyone is going to have a preference..... whether it is black/white... tall/short... fat/thin... or young/old.......
yeah its their loss fabio.........i do think racism comes in varying degrees though.