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Why is it that we all make assumptions about others.......???
Why are we so quick to judge others without knowing them... and on such tenuous amounts of information???
A group of teenagers after dark.... hanging about together.. and automatically some people think that they're up to no good.... causing trouble etc...
Drive a nice car........ must be rolling in money....
Speak differently to others.... people assume you're above or below them in social scale..
Why can't people just accept others for what / who they are.... and not assume things about them that probably are blatently not true......... take time to get to know people better before casting a judgement on them.
What's your view?
equi-princess xxx
Quote by equi-princess
A group of teenagers after dark.... hanging about together.. and automatically some people think that they're up to no good.... causing trouble etc...

There's a fine line between prejudging and making assumptions.
We all have to make assumptions in life. Although these maybe based on hearsay and misconceptions they are also made from experience and logic.
I've chose to take this part of your quote to illustrate a point.
We all have to take precautions for our personal safety. Experience tells us that walking around alone at night there's a possibility of being mugged or worse. It may only be a slim chance, but it's better to be over cautious than end up dead.
I wouldn't automatically assume a bunch of kids hanging around after dark are up to no good, but it would be dangerously naive not to assume it's a possibility.
Assumptions are base on the facts know to us, often limited. The more facts we know the more accurate the assumptions.
I had a short-lived assumption once....
that people on swinging sites were all swingers lol :lol: :lol:
It's very true that lots of people make unfair assumptions of others. The same could be said for people's opinions of swingers. A lot of people who don't 'indulge' automatically think that swingers would shag anything with a pulse or just get together in a big room and pair off willy nilly. I think swingers are a lot more choosy about their sexual partners than 'normal' people.
Lots of people think bikers mean trouble but I haven't met one yet who could live up ( or down ) to that ill conceived reputation. In fact, the Brighton Toy Run is one of the best examples of the kind hearted nature of bikers. They all head off to the children's hospital loaded with toys which they themselves have bought and just hand them over to the kids.
That said, all traffic wardens really ARE b*stards :giggle:
no offence meant to any swinging traffic wardens out there. You're exempt wink
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Why is it that we all make assumptions about others.......???
Why are we so quick to judge others without knowing them... and on such tenuous amounts of information???
A group of teenagers after dark.... hanging about together.. and automatically some people think that they're up to no good.... causing trouble etc...
Drive a nice car........ must be rolling in money....
Speak differently to others.... people assume you're above or below them in social scale..
Why can't people just accept others for what / who they are.... and not assume things about them that probably are blatently not true......... take time to get to know people better before casting a judgement on them.
What's your view?
equi-princess xxx

Natural human behaviour I'd say. Making assumptions, although not necessarily correct, can help us avoid problems. Animals usually assume all humans are dangerous for the same reason. Assumptions aren't the problem in my opinion - it's the refusal of those who've made them to change their views in spite of the facts which is the problem. That's the point at which stereotyping becomes dangerous.
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Why is it that we all make assumptions about others.......???

So you are making the assumption that I make assumptions?
SORRYEqui I couldn't resist!
kiss
Well I think it’s very true what you say..... One thing we have learned is to take more time to get to know people..
There is nowhere where this is truer than on here, people make assumptions based on very little information.
Yes its hard to get a real personality over on here some manage very well others not quite as when we have met them most (but not all) are completely different to how we imagined from chat and forums etc..
We have also noted people say that about us too… good or bad.
Mike and Julie x
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Why is it that we all make assumptions about others.......???

So you are making the assumption that I make assumptions?
lol nice one !!!
equi.............you know i would never assume anything !!! smile
SORRYEqui I couldn't resist!
kiss
Quote by equi-princess
Why is it that we all make assumptions about others.......???
Why are we so quick to judge others without knowing them... and on such tenuous amounts of information???
A group of teenagers after dark.... hanging about together.. and automatically some people think that they're up to no good.... causing trouble etc...
Drive a nice car........ must be rolling in money....
Speak differently to others.... people assume you're above or below them in social scale..
Why can't people just accept others for what / who they are.... and not assume things about them that probably are blatently not true......... take time to get to know people better before casting a judgement on them.
What's your view?
equi-princess xxx

Well, I assumed you were really posh biggrin
Then I saw you in that shell suit, and I realised that.......................
Only joking Equi lol
I'm guilty of making assumptions, but only as a quick assessment of people prior to speaking to them.
I do know, that everyone outside of Devon is strange though :lol:
Assumptions are base on the facts know to us, often limited. The more facts we know the more accurate the assumptions.
The assumptions we make base on appearance are moulded by the experience of others who appearance (direct or reported) was the same. This is not a good bases for assumptions, but in the past it served well. We kept clear of snakes because they were snakes. We did not need to know if any particular snake would bit, it was best not to find out. Now we know more about snake we know how much we can do with each one. The assumption changes as our knowledge becomes more complete. At some point we stop calling it an assumption.
Travis
It’s because we are primates and need to make very quick assessments of others purely as a survival measure. Although we are not aware of doing it, we pick up on vast amounts of information when we look at someone. Is this person more likely to help or hurt, assist or hinder etc. Once you have got past the initial assessment, you can override the instinct and find out about the real person beyond the facade.
It’s quite surprising just how much we still rely on and are driven by our animal instincts, despite believing that we have moved on from all that.
Stormwalker
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It’s because we are primates and need to make very quick assessments of others purely as a survival measure. Although we are not aware of doing it, we pick up on vast amounts of information when we look at someone. Is this person more likely to help or hurt, assist or hinder etc. Once you have got past the initial assessment, you can override the instinct and find out about the real person beyond the facade.
It’s quite surprising just how much we still rely on and are driven by our animal instincts, despite believing that we have moved on from all that.
Stormwalker

What firelizard said! :grin: :thumbup:
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Drive a nice car........ must be rolling in money....

You must be feeling really brave hon..... lol.... to even mention that in here.....

Oh ho..ho..ho...... that is SO unfair........ you're a complete bunch of MG haters...... lol
It's unfair to make assumptions before you know the facts.
I mean, when I first started talking to Meaty I thought he was a degenerate, grumpy and plain old horny pervert when in fact he's really just that much of a degenerate at all ! Everything else was right though :giggle:
love ya really Meaty kiss
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...... that is SO unfair........


Its just pure jealousy...... nothing more... nothing less....... lol
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Why is it that we all make assumptions about others.......???
???
A group of teenagers after dark.... hanging about together.. and automatically some people think that they're up to no good.... causing trouble etc...
Why can't people just accept others for what / who they are.... and not assume things about them that probably are blatently not true......... take time to get to know people better before casting a judgement on them.
What's your view?
equi-princess xxx

I do have a view bout the 'teenagers' thing... That is to do with an incident that I was involved in last year.
I have a 16yr old... I know that he is well has been brought up correctly , shows respect, is polite and hopefully does well in his GCSE's that he is taking at this moment.
There are a group of teenagers that hang around outside my local convenience store. They have never bothered me before. One day (15:00 hrs - Sarge will understand that ) I go into the store , there are about 10 of them coming out... One gives vile abuse to the store manager ( " You Fucking , fat , red-headed bitch... you can fuck off!!")
Charming , I think... I admonish the culprit. What do I get. A challenge from them to fight... I am 51 , ffs!!!!... what do you do in this situation?
Inside I want to smack one of them... Do I ?.... No , because I know I would be in trouble... I do ask who is brave enough to be first... but get no response... I walk into the store.
When I leave, they are still there. I get more abuse... The 'leader' says that I cant touch them.. He's right.
They are all aged 14 , 15... A mix of boys and girls..
Do you wonder why my son does Martial Arts!!!
I don't judge a book etc etc... But I am becoming hacked off with this kind of attitude
Paul
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Why is it that we all make assumptions about others.......???
???
A group of teenagers after dark.... hanging about together.. and automatically some people think that they're up to no good.... causing trouble etc...
Why can't people just accept others for what / who they are.... and not assume things about them that probably are blatently not true......... take time to get to know people better before casting a judgement on them.
What's your view?
equi-princess xxx

I do have a view bout the 'teenagers' thing... That is to do with an incident that I was involved in last year.
I have a 16yr old... I know that he is well has been brought up correctly , shows respect, is polite and hopefully does well in his GCSE's that he is taking at this moment.
There are a group of teenagers that hang around outside my local convenience store. They have never bothered me before. One day (15:00 hrs - Sarge will understand that ) I go into the store , there are about 10 of them coming out... One gives vile abuse to the store manager ( " You Fucking , fat , red-headed bitch... you can fuck off!!")
Charming , I think... I admonish the culprit. What do I get. A challenge from them to fight... I am 51 , ffs!!!!... what do you do in this situation?
Inside I want to smack one of them... Do I ?.... No , because I know I would be in trouble... I do ask who is brave enough to be first... but get no response... I walk into the store.
When I leave, they are still there. I get more abuse... The 'leader' says that I cant touch them.. He's right.
They are all aged 14 , 15... A mix of boys and girls..
Do you wonder why my son does Martial Arts!!!
I don't judge a book etc etc... But I am becoming hacked off with this kind of attitude
Paul
So the next time you see a group of teenagers you label them based on this group. That is why the law needs proof before locking folk up.
I am sure you are grateful for this when some sees your son in the street with his friends.
Travis
Odd that often we need fear nothing but other people but THEY are often not what we need to fear after all.
I go by the adage that most people are ok,it is but a few that aren't.
But thats MY ok or not lol!
Quote by firelizard
It’s because we are primates and need to make very quick assessments of others purely as a survival measure. Although we are not aware of doing it, we pick up on vast amounts of information when we look at someone. Is this person more likely to help or hurt, assist or hinder etc. Once you have got past the initial assessment, you can override the instinct and find out about the real person beyond the facade.
It’s quite surprising just how much we still rely on and are driven by our animal instincts, despite believing that we have moved on from all that.
Stormwalker

aint that the truth but once you realse those instincts are still there and learn to listen to them initially then its quite handy actually !
GF2
Assumptions, instincts they are all just the past forming the way we react to others. We do it on both conscious and subconscious leaves, but it is still our own past. Sometimes they serve well sometimes they do not.