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I was wondering if you lovely people could give me some advice about back pain.
I slipped on the stairs at work and now the pain in my back is almost unbearable, I can hardly walk and have an appointment with the Dr in the morning to check it all out. Thought about going today (the accident happened yesterday) but alas, no appointments.
Is there anything I can do (apart from taking heavy doses of N+) to ease the pain tonight as I'm really not fancying a sleepless night. sad Plus I can't afford the time off work cos I don't get sick pay :( .
Any remedies people can suggest as working well?
If its as bad as that maybe A&E at your local hospital..
An xray couldn't do any harm.... if its just bruised badly they can prescribe far better pain relief!
Mike
I know this may sound stupid but Tony suffers from a bad back problem now and then, called syatica ( sorry about the spelling, couldn't find the right one anywhere )
He gets it that bad he can't even walk..... it don't matter how bad it gets though, if we start having sex it 100% go's away for him after just a few mins of starting, stops away all the while we are at and then starts coming back after about an hour after stopping confused
We did ask the doctor about it redface and he said its something to do with some chemical your brain releases while doing the tango ( can't remember the name now )
I know this might not be much help for you but if you wanted a little relieve just for a short time for a break its something you might want to think about.......
Also Tony has a tens machine that works very well, cost us from boots and really does the trick
Shaz x rolleyes
I was practically imobile for nearly 2 years, you have my sympathy!
If you can take them without ill effect, take some anti-inflamatories, hot and cold alteranation on your back will help reduce the inflamation, cold (frozen peas wrapped in a towel) for as long as you can take it then a hot water bottle (be careful its not too hot) for the same. Repeat this. Don't not move, yes it hurts but the worst thing you can do is not keep moving, even if it's only a little, your muscles will seize and it'll take that much longer to loosen up again. I have an excellent osteopath, same people they work for, some not - depends what you've done. If it's just musccular then a good massage will help. When it's better, start doing some stretching and strengthening exercises - if you have a weekness its not going to go away
hope this helps.
H.x
I would suggest you get yourself to your local A+E, if its so bad you can't walk and bearing in mind this injury came from a fall you will probably need an Xray which your GP is likely to send you for tomorrow anyway.
Failing that, ring NHS Direct, they have been brilliant when I have used them
I hope you get better soon xxxx
:inlove: Thankyou so much!
Sex! :scared: redface Endorphins are nice and everything but I'm not convinced I'm willing to risk the pain afterwards once it all stops! surprisedops:
What is a tens machine?
Walking isn't impossible just yet, but I do walk like my 82 year old granny right now! :oops:
It's very painful. I'll get to the docs tomorrow and see if they'll refer me to the x'ray dept as this won't take nearly as long as waiting for A&E will.
Hot and cold stuff it is then! I've loaded up the hot water bottle and rummaged for some frozen out of date items to abuse.
Do warm cream things work? I've found a gel thing in the medicine cupboard and wondered how effective it would be on this?
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:inlove: Thankyou so much!
Sex! :scared: redface Endorphins are nice and everything but I'm not convinced I'm willing to risk the pain afterwards once it all stops! surprisedops:
What is a tens machine?
Walking isn't impossible just yet, but I do walk like my 82 year old granny right now! :oops:
It's very painful. I'll get to the docs tomorrow and see if they'll refer me to the x'ray dept as this won't take nearly as long as waiting for A&E will.
Hot and cold stuff it is then! I've loaded up the hot water bottle and rummaged for some frozen out of date items to abuse.
Do warm cream things work? I've found a gel thing in the medicine cupboard and wondered how effective it would be on this?

a tens machine is a little box that has leads coming of it with patches on it for instant pain relieve smile
And yeah there very very good and i would advise anyone to get one, there really handy, not only for any part of your body that you get pain in ( apart from your head ) there also good for other things to :twisted:
Shaz x
never tried em. Anything within Ibuprofen (not sure if I can say that or not) should help, so long as your not allergic or taking anyhing else. (or have stomach ulcers)
definate trip to the doctors for you though.
H.x
Think they might get suspicious if I haunch into the docs with a muscle twitcher attached to other bits though! lol Might put a smile on the miserable trouts face behind the reception desk!
I'm not allergic to Ibruprofen (no stomach ulcers or other tings on the destruction label) and I'm just waiting for it to kick in before I head to bed.
Why is it the side effect of tablets sometimes seem more scary that the ailment you're actually taking them for? dunno
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I know this may sound stupid but Tony suffers from a bad back problem now and then, called syatica ( sorry about the spelling, couldn't find the right one anywhere )
He gets it that bad he can't even walk..... it don't matter how bad it gets though, if we start having sex it 100% go's away for him after just a few mins of starting, stops away all the while we are at and then starts coming back after about an hour after stopping confused
We did ask the doctor about it redface and he said its something to do with some chemical your brain releases while doing the tango ( can't remember the name now )
I know this might not be much help for you but if you wanted a little relieve just for a short time for a break its something you might want to think about.......
Also Tony has a tens machine that works very well, cost us from boots and really does the trick
Shaz x rolleyes

Hiya ! wave
FYI, just in case you ever need it....its Sciatica, and the chemical would be his Endorphines I expect.
Either that........or he's found a really nifty way of getting his legover & some sympathy too! :giggle:
kiss
Leg over and sympathy! :shock:
I've been lucky to get an inch of therethere from anyone around RL here. My mum even insisted I hobbled around the shopping centre with her tonight and I didn't take too kindly to her mentioning getting me a wheelchair from the mobility station. confused How about a cup of tea and some pain killers instead... oh and how about you leaving me alone at home while we're going down that road... :?
Can I take tips from Tony please Shaz??? shags and sympathy... I'm gettign greener with the passing minute.
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Leg over and sympathy! :shock:
I've been lucky to get an inch of therethere from anyone around RL here. My mum even insisted I hobbled around the shopping centre with her tonight and I didn't take too kindly to her mentioning getting me a wheelchair from the mobility station. confused How about a cup of tea and some pain killers instead... oh and how about you leaving me alone at home while we're going down that road... :?
Can I take tips from Tony please Shaz??? shags and sympathy... I'm gettign greener with the passing minute.

honestly your bst to go to A and E like the others said and then if they give you the all clear, go to your local chemist, tell them your problem and they will give you the best tens machine they think for it.
Shaz x
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I know this may sound stupid but Tony suffers from a bad back problem now and then, called syatica ( sorry about the spelling, couldn't find the right one anywhere )
He gets it that bad he can't even walk..... it don't matter how bad it gets though, if we start having sex it 100% go's away for him after just a few mins of starting, stops away all the while we are at and then starts coming back after about an hour after stopping confused
We did ask the doctor about it redface and he said its something to do with some chemical your brain releases while doing the tango ( can't remember the name now )
I know this might not be much help for you but if you wanted a little relieve just for a short time for a break its something you might want to think about.......
Also Tony has a tens machine that works very well, cost us from boots and really does the trick
Shaz x rolleyes

Hiya ! wave
FYI, just in case you ever need it....its Sciatica, and the chemical would be his Endorphines I expect.
Either that........or he's found a really nifty way of getting his legover & some sympathy too! :giggle:
kiss
Hello back to you to :wave: biggrin
Both of them sound about right lol
Its not sympathy, i really wish it was,the first time he had it bad he was in bed for 8 weeks not being able to get up because the pain was so bad, he thought he would never be able to walk again, his spine had curved right over to one side through muscle spasm... he's ok now and he knows the difference between normal back ache and a sciatica warning, if he think it might be sciatica then he's just careful for a couple of days and it goes, worked so far anyway smile
Thanks pete for that link, just got the info and will give Tony it in the morning..... he's in bed and thats where i was until he pinched all my covers then pinched my pillar saying it was his ( his had fell on the floor! )
Shaz x
I suffer from a sciatic nerve in my lower back and whilst I can lift heavy objects no worries (I'm ard me) it does have a tendency to go at the slightest thing, so far to date i've put it out rolling over in bed, bending down to pick a cup of tea up off the garden wall and even just getting in the car. Get your self off down your GP and the'll sort you out. Mine ended up sending me for ultra sound sessions on my back. Basically I lie face down tehy smear me in gel stuff and run a ball like thing all over my lower back. Regular sessions of this do help but as I'm a typical male I either forget to go or can't be arsed (it's a stupid macho thing on my part) but when I have been it does help no end biggrin :D
Thanks all.
Dr advised to stay off work and to take strong pain killers.
He scares me too much to ask too many questions so fingers crossed it's not some long term thing going on with my back! smile We'd be a right pair of injurred soldiers! redface lol
Cheers for all the advice.
Howdy, just thought i'd get my bit in too!
most of the advice has been pretty sound, gentle movements, and anti inflammatories are the best at the mo.
Although your doc said stay off work, you should aim to get back as soon as poss, as moving is the best therapy. (if you have a really active job then be sensible obviously!)
what did you actually do?
not so sure about the advice of alternate heat/cold - this tends to be good advice for more long term back pain.
With an acute injury, you would usually use ice and compression with some sort of tubi grip bandage to prevent inflammation, and also to 'block' pain (pain gate theory- your sensory receptors have a preference for hot and cold sensation rather than pain)
however, If you hit your back when you fell, then ice may help, but heat would do the complete opposite and cause more inflammation. backs don't really tend to 'swell' though so ice probably wont help either. Also, if it was a muscular injury (from a jerking or twisting type movement) then heat may help to relax any tension or spasm in your muscles, but then again, could cause more inflammation and then more pain.
So Ice and heat can be good, but with back injuries that tends to depend on the type of injury.
Good movements are lying on your back, knees bent (like you're about to do sit-ups) then gently dropping you knees out to one side towards the floor and then to the other.
Gently turning from right to left in sitting is good, as is curling up in a ball.
If you can, lie on your stomach and gently push up onto your elbows, lifting your head and chest up ( a yoga pose!)
massage can also be good, depending on the type of injury.
for sleeping at night, you could try on your front with a pillow under your stomach, but again, that depends on the type of injury, so just make sure you take some pain killers!
If you notice anything strange, like pins and needles/tingling in your buttocks, legs, or loss of sensations, increased pain, problems going to the loo, then you should go and get checked out again.
Sciatica is irritation of your sciatic nerve, and if you had this, you would notice other symptoms rather than just back pain!
if you let me know more details i can give you more advice (but its just advice - v difficult to give proper advice without examination!)
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I suffer from a sciatic nerve in my lower back and whilst I can lift heavy objects no worries (I'm ard me) it does have a tendency to go at the slightest thing, so far to date i've put it out rolling over in bed, bending down to pick a cup of tea up off the garden wall and even just getting in the car. Get your self off down your GP and the'll sort you out. Mine ended up sending me for ultra sound sessions on my back. Basically I lie face down tehy smear me in gel stuff and run a ball like thing all over my lower back. Regular sessions of this do help but as I'm a typical male I either forget to go or can't be arsed (it's a stupid macho thing on my part) but when I have been it does help no end biggrin :D

ps ultra sound can be good, but not a lot of evidence for it, and some of the evidence that does exist ain't great - tends to suggest its a placebo effect (ie cos you think you're getting a treatment, it can help with reducing the thought of pain) if an effect at all!
and it really depends on the reason behind your back pain why you would get ultrasound.
with regards to sciatica, it tends to be short term effects for pain relief- but if you have poor posture and muscle weakness that is usually a major contributing factor to sciatic nerve irritation and wont be helped by lying down having gel stuck on ya every week!
best thing is exercise for long term - lots of core stability work and improving your posture espesh if you have a driving/desk/lifitng job!
Failing all that good advice, I could always walk up and down your back in my boots......................kill or cure time ! :giggle:
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Failing all that good advice, I could always walk up and down your back in my boots......................kill or cure time ! :giggle:

hahaha now thats def a treatment that deserves some research! i wonder how many volunteers they'd get for the study?!
maz xx
serious imput from me from once.......but most back problems can be sorted by working on your core strenth........ie ur stomach muscles.......with this sort of injury the best way is to use certain exercises to build these muscles..........one of the best forms is pilates........and the other is yoga........if u can find a good instructor they will have it sorted in no time.......i'm not qualified to teach pilates but i am for yoga and i will shortly be instructing another member in it so if anyone else wants to join the class ur welcome (and before u ask i won't be in a leotard!)
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serious imput from me from once.......but most back problems can be sorted by working on your core strenth........ie ur stomach muscles.......with this sort of injury the best way is to use certain exercises to build these muscles..........one of the best forms is pilates........and the other is yoga........if u can find a good instructor they will have it sorted in no time.......i'm not qualified to teach pilates but i am for yoga and i will shortly be instructing another member in it so if anyone else wants to join the class ur welcome (and before u ask i won't be in a leotard!)

definately!
well, not forgetting he does have an iacute injury, so yoga aint a magic cure at the moment, but core strengthening and posture work like you do in pilates and yoga will help reduce your risk of future injury or back pain- so once thigs have settled with gentle movement, and pain relief- get your leotard on boy!heheh
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(and before u ask i won't be in a leotard!)

Nekid then? innocent
:shock:
What? dunno
:scared: ouch, what'd I say? :uhoh:
bolt
:grin: rotflmao
Who's naked :twisted: :shock: biggrin Tell me Tell me!!
Shaz x
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Who's naked :twisted: :shock: biggrin Tell me Tell me!!
Shaz x

I think we are rather hoping that Posh is going to start some SH nekid yoga classes innocent
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Who's naked :twisted: :shock: biggrin Tell me Tell me!!
Shaz x

I think we are rather hoping that Posh is going to start some SH nekid yoga classes innocent
Where do i sign up ? :twisted:
Shaz x
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Failing all that good advice, I could always walk up and down your back in my boots......................kill or cure time ! :giggle:

hooray the muppets are back online after 5 days of NTHELL :doh:
sassy hun...........................over here my back is murder and needs ironing out by those lovely boots of yours rotflmao :rotflmao: :inlove: :inlove:
wave eroticuk sorry for the hijack we dont do it often honest :rascal:
mr and mrs dpg xxxx (mrs)
Yoga???? I tried it once and fell asleep :shock: :sleeping: I've suffered lower back problems since I damaged my back in a fall years ago ( yes I WAS sober ! ) and every now and then it flares up and leaves me in dreadful pain and unable to move. My job doesn't help either ( most nurses suffer from bad backs at some stage )
I find strong Ibuprofen helps ( though check with the GP first ) Reflexology does an amazing job and so does massage. The trick though is to keep mobile, nothing too strenuous but yoga is very good as is swimming.
Hope you get better soon hunni kiss
wave Hi Mr & Mrs dpg. Good to see you back with us :kiss:
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IWe did ask the doctor about it redface and he said its something to do with some chemical your brain releases while doing the tango ( can't remember the name now )Shaz x rolleyes

It endorphins... its bascially the bodys equivilent of morphine.
It why someone that is shot or looses a limb in an accident can still function untill the shock sets in.
Its very similar to the flight or fight response that you get when you get an addrenaline rush but a lot more powerfull.
Its actually why some people enjoy "subbing" and pain... the body kicks out the pain dampening endorphines and people get used to that so it produces a narcotic effect... its also why people that scene while not in a relationship (but play) suffer from sub drop as its a withdrawl simptom due to the "play have fun" then "back to 'normal life' without the fix" when the body is craving the morphine/endorphine's in the body.
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:inlove: Thankyou so much!
Sex! :scared: redface Endorphins are nice and everything but I'm not convinced I'm willing to risk the pain afterwards once it all stops! surprisedops:
What is a tens machine?
Walking isn't impossible just yet, but I do walk like my 82 year old granny right now! :oops:
It's very painful. I'll get to the docs tomorrow and see if they'll refer me to the x'ray dept as this won't take nearly as long as waiting for A&E will.
Hot and cold stuff it is then! I've loaded up the hot water bottle and rummaged for some frozen out of date items to abuse.
Do warm cream things work? I've found a gel thing in the medicine cupboard and wondered how effective it would be on this?

a tens machine is a little box that has leads coming of it with patches on it for instant pain relieve smile
And yeah there very very good and i would advise anyone to get one, there really handy, not only for any part of your body that you get pain in ( apart from your head ) there also good for other things to :twisted:
Shaz x
My mum was one of the first to trial the tens machine due to her aracna thingie... it works by sending the brain regular "pain/impulse" signals that confuse the brain and block the real pain signals..its now been adapted for use in dental work and also by the BDSM'ers for actually sending pain signals (us bdsm lot are very good at adapting things, lol) but it doesnt work for everone.
The more modern ones use a high frequency pulse so you dont even get a tingle on the tounge... the older ones used to send a pulse every .5 seconds or so which was similar to the no work out bodybuilding pads that cause the muscles to twitch.
But like any medical thing... it only works for some... my mum is now on morphine patches and anti-depresants as the anti-deps make the other pain killers work at a much more powerfull strength as a side effect (contra indication) and none of the 35 pills she takes a day get rid of the pain.. they only make it just managable.