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OK so there are moves afoot to ban drivers smoking in cars because of the danger of it impeding the concentration of the driver. Well that makes no sense when its allowable to have a satnav taking your concentration away from the road onto a small 3" screen Oh and now a lot of Sat Navs come with built in digital TV even more crazy. Maybe sat navs should be made audio only rather than visual.
theres a whole heap of stuff more distracting than lighting up a fag in a car....the worst one being kids fighting/fannying about in the back evil
hmmm audio only sat nav....I have visions of the voice going " in 100 yards turn right......in 50 yards turn right...in 30 yards turn right...nearly there...nearly there....nearly...just a bit more...not quite...almost....turn right quickNOW NOW NOW - phew almost didnt make it there mate" :giggle:
Quote by Thebonediggers
theres a whole heap of stuff more distracting than lighting up a fag in a car....the worst one being kids fighting/fannying about in the back evil

Ban kids in cars! Ahh bliss biggrin
Ban anyone over 65 would be a good start, or at least make them sit a test every three years.
The old Sunday afternoon fogeys are a danger and a menace to all, especially the really old biddies.
They have no concept of speed or distance at all.
No kids also seems like a jolly good idea, as they can be a huge distraction.
the reasoning behind this....is that in reality.....smoking in cars is already sort of banned. The highway code says other than to change gear, you should both hands on the wheel.
Think..if a child suddendly runs out in front of you. If you have one hand one the wheel, and a fag in the other....are you going to be able to grab the wheel and swerve and brake in time ?? Also what would happen if you accidently dropped you fag..alight in your lap...( yep goodness gracious great balls of fire) ... a sat nav is glance every now and again. I know which I think poses the greatest danger.
I ride a bike and a couple of times I've had some twats cig land on my lap when they've pitched it out of their window. Luckily for me its blown away when I've stood up. Luckily for them I couldn't get hold of it with my gloves on or they would soon find it back on their lap in the car with my boot imprint in their door for good measure.
Not to mention the fact that chucking fag ends on the floor is littering. :mad:
Sorry, Im not really angry....
Ommmmmmmmm
Lets ban maps first. I have seen drivers with a map in their face, a knee under the steering wheel.
So the woman I saw trying to light her cigarette whilst attempting to steer with the hand holding her extra large Starbuck's cup the other day was probably just following the directions from her satnav? dunno confused
TBH, I get too distracted by the satnav so I stow it on the shelf under the dash and just listen to the directions.
I have even heard they wish to ban giving drivers a blowjob while the car is still in motion.dunno
Quote by Bluefish2009
I have even heard they wish to ban giving drivers a blowjob while the car is still in motion.dunno

Health and Safety gone maaad I tell ya!
Quote by foxylady2209
I have even heard they wish to ban giving drivers a blowjob while the car is still in motion.dunno

Health and Safety gone maaad I tell ya!
That's just uncivilized!
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the reasoning behind this....is that in reality.....smoking in cars is already sort of banned. The highway code says other than to change gear, you should both hands on the wheel.
Think..if a child suddendly runs out in front of you. If you have one hand one the wheel, and a fag in the other....are you going to be able to grab the wheel and swerve and brake in time ?? Also what would happen if you accidently dropped you fag..alight in your lap...( yep goodness gracious great balls of fire) ... a sat nav is glance every now and again. I know which I think poses the greatest danger.

Yes, as I have two hands on the wheel and the cigarette in between me fingers and I have full concentration on the road for hazards ahead.
It is a perception that it is dangerous, but I have seen no stats to say that smoking a cigarette causes road crashes. Someone may be able to find them though, but I couldn't
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
the reasoning behind this....is that in reality.....smoking in cars is already sort of banned. The highway code says other than to change gear, you should both hands on the wheel.
Think..if a child suddendly runs out in front of you. If you have one hand one the wheel, and a fag in the other....are you going to be able to grab the wheel and swerve and brake in time ?? Also what would happen if you accidently dropped you fag..alight in your lap...( yep goodness gracious great balls of fire) ... a sat nav is glance every now and again. I know which I think poses the greatest danger.

Yes, as I have two hands on the wheel and the cigarette in between me fingers and I have full concentration on the road for hazards ahead.
It is a perception that it is dangerous, but I have seen no stats to say that smoking a cigarette causes road crashes. Someone may be able to find them though, but I couldn't
Dave_Notts
I brought the car to work this morning and had a ciggie on the way. If they bring in a smoking ban in your own car then I will have a criminal record. Shit happens.
From lighting to smoking to flicking ash requires no concentration at all. It's second nature when you've smoked for so long. My eyes are on the road while I take my ciggie out of the packet, light it, smoke it, flick it and then dispose of the end in the bottle I keep in the car with water in it so that I'm not littering. :mrgreen:
And sat nav isn't a glance every now and again unless you've set it before you drive off. The number of people I've seen tapping the screen whilst driving is ridiculous. That should be banned. Stop the car if you need to make adjustments. It's just as bad as using a phone whilst driving, which is something that you see pretty much every day.
Also sexy Sylvia on the sat nav is way more distracting than smoking. :rascal:
Quote by Lost
OK so there are moves afoot to ban drivers smoking in cars because of the danger of it impeding the concentration of the driver. Well that makes no sense when its allowable to have a satnav taking your concentration away from the road onto a small 3" screen Oh and now a lot of Sat Navs come with built in digital TV even more crazy. Maybe sat navs should be made audio only rather than visual.

Oh good, seems like we can have a list ?
:smoke::smoke::smoke::smoke::smoke:
1) Ban kids runs to schools, under 8's should walk and over 8's be allowed to cycle or alternatively; stagger pre-school, primary school, middle school and secondary school better between 3pm and 4:45pm and if parents must take their little 'darhlings' to school if they can't park on-site then at least 1/2 mile away :twisted:
2) As an ex-Biker the un-written code was to look out for all Volvo drivers, though now perhaps this should be expanded to be old-volvos and all drivers of Rover's :twisted:
3) Fit a braking device to all cycles, so that brakes are applied at traffic lights when they are red, one day I'm sure I'll get one of the berks jumping a red light :twisted:
4) When did they change the MOT/Law so that circa 10%, seemingly on a random basis, have to have one or more side/headlights not working, surely this causes more accidents and near-misses ? :twisted:
5) Force manufacturers to pay the money and actually fit sat nav systems that use full Post Codes rather than those that just pay for / code the first group of letters and numbers so as to get people to the general Post Code area and then don't bother with the 2nd group, that actually gets people to within a few houses of their intended destination :twisted:
(Better still map map reading part of the theory part of the Driving Test ?)
6) Allow the ability to shoot all members of the Middle Lane Owners club lol
7) Better positioned rear fog light indicators in front of the driver, we all still seem them on bright sunny days with them lit :twisted:
(Perhaps fit live terminals through the seat to their genitals if on and certain light conditions met, no hang on the e-stim colleagues will be in permanent orgasmic throes, surely more distracting :-D)
8) Actually have a Police Force with Traffic Officers, etc. who actually help road safety, afterall they are making a fortune from a lot of people via 'speed camera partnerships'. Frankly had enough of the Police walking or driving by those parked on junctions, in box junctions, parked on the footpath, driving in the middle lane, rear fog lights, no tax, no insurance and no MOT, etc. (enough for a new thread here alone)
9) Yes some banning kids, of all ages :lol: from cars would be good as well :twisted:
10) As for smokers, some how ashtrays on motor bikers will never catch on wink , though they are self empyting at anything over 5 mph.
Overall, personally think Shag Nav systems are quite useful and the destination/reason for the travel is perhaps more distracting
:bounce:
Quote by Bluefish2009
I have even heard they wish to ban giving drivers a blowjob while the car is still in motion.dunno

How are the doggers supposed to watch if you insist on driving and doing it? Pull over and let them see...
Quote by awayman
I have even heard they wish to ban giving drivers a blowjob while the car is still in motion.dunno

How are the doggers supposed to watch if you insist on driving and doing it? Pull over and let them see...Have you never asked yourself, 'Why does the traffic not move on the M25?'
Quote by Dirtygirly
the reasoning behind this....is that in reality.....smoking in cars is already sort of banned. The highway code says other than to change gear, you should both hands on the wheel.
Think..if a child suddendly runs out in front of you. If you have one hand one the wheel, and a fag in the other....are you going to be able to grab the wheel and swerve and brake in time ?? Also what would happen if you accidently dropped you fag..alight in your lap...( yep goodness gracious great balls of fire) ... a sat nav is glance every now and again. I know which I think poses the greatest danger.

Yes, as I have two hands on the wheel and the cigarette in between me fingers and I have full concentration on the road for hazards ahead.
It is a perception that it is dangerous, but I have seen no stats to say that smoking a cigarette causes road crashes. Someone may be able to find them though, but I couldn't
Dave_Notts
I brought the car to work this morning and had a ciggie on the way. If they bring in a smoking ban in your own car then I will have a criminal record. Shit happens.
From lighting to smoking to flicking ash requires no concentration at all. It's second nature when you've smoked for so long. My eyes are on the road while I take my ciggie out of the packet, light it, smoke it, flick it and then dispose of the end in the bottle I keep in the car with water in it so that I'm not littering. :mrgreen:
And sat nav isn't a glance every now and again unless you've set it before you drive off. The number of people I've seen tapping the screen whilst driving is ridiculous. That should be banned. Stop the car if you need to make adjustments. It's just as bad as using a phone whilst driving, which is something that you see pretty much every day.
Also sexy Sylvia on the sat nav is way more distracting than smoking. :rascal:
How did you make this simple act sound so erotic? :sticky:
Lighting a cigarette requires both hands - and they are near your mouth. Just how do you steer in that situation?
But, yes, there are many things that are a dangerous distraction while driving many a lot worse than holding a cigarette. But some drivers are just dangerous all the time.
People from new learners showing off to their friends, old folks with bugger all vision left and crap reactions, parents trying to control their children in the back of the car, drivers fiddling with radio/satnav/phone buttons or reading maps/books/paperwork.
The fact is drivers as a population all need to choose not to do these things and put all their attention in to driving safely. And the police need to feel it's worth prosecuting those that don't - before an accident happens - and not have their arrests turned into cautions, tiny fines or suspended sentences. Seriously - a suspended sentence ISN'T a sentence at all. It's a 'please don't do it again'.
If driving while distracted is a criminal offence, it should be prosecuted as such without the distracted driver having to kill someone before they are removed from the road.
Driving isn't a right it's a privilege, based on passing a test and continuing to drive safely and within the current laws of the road. That privilege should be withdrawn and have to be hard won back if other people are endangered by someone's abuse of it. I'm not bothered about a slight speeding offence, I'm concerned about the woman behind me a few weeks back with a fag in one hand, mobile phone in the other and inspecting her teeth in the rear-view mirror. She was driving with 2 fingers and a thumb and 0 eyes.
/rant
Quote by foxylady2209
Lighting a cigarette requires both hands - and they are near your mouth. Just how do you steer in that situation?

:shock:
How big is your lighter?! :giggle:
I tend to have my ciggie in my mouth, one hand on the wheel (same as when I change gear incidentally) and my lighter in the other hand. I don't need to watch the lighter... I've smoked a long time, I watch the road, flick the lighter and puff!
:mrgreen:
Quote by Dirtygirly
Lighting a cigarette requires both hands - and they are near your mouth. Just how do you steer in that situation?

:shock:
How big is your lighter?! :giggle:
I tend to have my ciggie in my mouth, one hand on the wheel (same as when I change gear incidentally) and my lighter in the other hand. I don't need to watch the lighter... I've smoked a long time, I watch the road, flick the lighter and puff!
:mrgreen:
Oh right - I imagined the smoker would have to hold the cigarette. I've never smoked so I don't have any experience of the mechanics. I guess the most dtstracting thing would be dropping the cigarette between one's legs. biggrin
Quote by foxylady2209
Lighting a cigarette requires both hands - and they are near your mouth. Just how do you steer in that situation?

:shock:
How big is your lighter?! :giggle:
I tend to have my ciggie in my mouth, one hand on the wheel (same as when I change gear incidentally) and my lighter in the other hand. I don't need to watch the lighter... I've smoked a long time, I watch the road, flick the lighter and puff!
:mrgreen:
Oh right - I imagined the smoker would have to hold the cigarette. I've never smoked so I don't have any experience of the mechanics. I guess the most dtstracting thing would be dropping the cigarette between one's legs. biggrin
:giggle:
It's amazing what you can hold between your lips! :rascal:
Can't say I've ever done that (touch wood)... however I have nearly crashed my car twice because there was a spider in it. Accidents happen. We should all be responsible drivers as much as we can but I've said before, if you stop people smoking in their cars then I'd guess you'd have way more problems with road rage than you would people crashing because they were smoking.
Quote by Dirtygirly
Lighting a cigarette requires both hands - and they are near your mouth. Just how do you steer in that situation?

:shock:
How big is your lighter?! :giggle:
I tend to have my ciggie in my mouth, one hand on the wheel (same as when I change gear incidentally) and my lighter in the other hand. I don't need to watch the lighter... I've smoked a long time, I watch the road, flick the lighter and puff!
:mrgreen:
Oh right - I imagined the smoker would have to hold the cigarette. I've never smoked so I don't have any experience of the mechanics. I guess the most dtstracting thing would be dropping the cigarette between one's legs. biggrin
:giggle:
It's amazing what you can hold between your lips! :rascal:
Can't say I've ever done that (touch wood)... however I have nearly crashed my car twice because there was a spider in it. Accidents happen. We should all be responsible drivers as much as we can but I've said before, if you stop people smoking in their cars then I'd guess you'd have way more problems with road rage than you would people crashing because they were smoking.
Only until they got over the withdrawal surely. dunno Maybe we should have designated drivers for withdrawing smokers. :D
I had a bee in the footwell once - that was a near-crash experience. :D I suppose it's about minimising risk - and not adding to it unecessarily.
Quote by foxylady2209
I suppose it's about minimising risk - and not adding to it unecessarily.

:thumbup:
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
I suppose it's about minimising risk - and not adding to it unecessarily.

:thumbup:
Dave_Notts
Does that include making you get on a bus then?! :giggle:
bolt
What's next then ............
Banning passengers, in case "you talk to them" or they are the opposite sex and you get turned on by them and your mind starts to wander.
wink
Quote by woohoo
What's next then ............
Banning passengers, in case "you talk to them" or they are the opposite sex and you get turned on by them and your mind starts to wander. wink

If we're going that far, how about banning pretty girls walking innocently down the street with just a belt and a scrap of material between them and nudity (probably doesn't happen that often up your way Woo ;)). Very distracting for most of the male half of the population (and some of the females innocent)
I wonder if a person was sat in their car parked next to a satellite in orbit (missing the random one) whether the sat nav would be able to get you home?
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I wonder if a person was sat in their car parked next to a satellite in orbit (missing the random one) whether the sat nav would be able to get you home?

nope, as it works on 'triangulation' or multi source positioning.
unless you had another set of GPS type satellites positioned further out into orbit, with the ability to navigate in a 3D plane, then the sat nav would be unable to receive the positioning signal as the angle if incidence would be too accute for the GPS receiver to detect it.
you could of course ask NASA to reposition them all to face your location, the only problem with this being the mapping software would then think you were somewhere totally different, unless you also got someone to rewrite this. and then, as you navigate towards home, you'd hit a point where the angle of incidence issue would once again occur, leaving you without a signal again.
You could ask NASA and the mapping software team to compensate for this by building in a subtracking program that allows the satellites to track your car as you approach earth and also compensating for the change in azimuth and therefore compensating the timing syncronisation of said system, which i'm pretty confident they could do, with a little time lol
There is also the slight problem of you car not being designed for space, not having sufficent thrust to be able to penetrate the earths atmosphere and it also unlikely to be unable to withstand the immense temperature encountered as you re-enter the atmosphere and friction begins to act upon the car (even with undercoating, waxing the bodywork and turning up the aircon to full). Finally, you would find that if you did manage to get your car through all of these stages somehow, you would hurtle to earth at a huge rate, crashing into the ground and pretty much disintegrating on impact, no matter how many airbags you may have.
Finally, depending on your point of re-entry, you will most probably receive a fixed penalty notice for excessive speed and dangerous driving.
Hope that answers your question wink
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I wonder if a person was sat in their car parked next to a satellite in orbit (missing the random one) whether the sat nav would be able to get you home?

nope, as it works on 'triangulation' or multi source positioning.
unless you had another set of GPS type satellites positioned further out into orbit, with the ability to navigate in a 3D plane, then the sat nav would be unable to receive the positioning signal as the angle if incidence would be too accute for the GPS receiver to detect it.
you could of course ask NASA to reposition them all to face your location, the only problem with this being the mapping software would then think you were somewhere totally different, unless you also got someone to rewrite this. and then, as you navigate towards home, you'd hit a point where the angle of incidence issue would once again occur, leaving you without a signal again.
You could ask NASA and the mapping software team to compensate for this by building in a subtracking program that allows the satellites to track your car as you approach earth and also compensating for the change in azimuth and therefore compensating the timing syncronisation of said system, which i'm pretty confident they could do, with a little time lol
There is also the slight problem of you car not being designed for space, not having sufficent thrust to be able to penetrate the earths atmosphere and it also unlikely to be unable to withstand the immense temperature encountered as you re-enter the atmosphere and friction begins to act upon the car (even with undercoating, waxing the bodywork and turning up the aircon to full). Finally, you would find that if you did manage to get your car through all of these stages somehow, you would hurtle to earth at a huge rate, crashing into the ground and pretty much disintegrating on impact, no matter how many airbags you may have.
Finally, depending on your point of re-entry, you will most probably receive a fixed penalty notice for excessive speed and dangerous driving.
Hope that answers your question wink
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