It's very difficult to write something here without sounding a bit like an old-fashioned schoolteacher, but...I think that the people who write that they were not personally offended by overt sexual behaviour they witnessed at a munch, and the ones who "don't mind being propositioned" are forgetting that behaviour which people see at a munch creates a precedent which the others who are new, naive or uncertain are liable to see a green light for taking liberties themselves and potentially becoming offensive.
I also get concerned sometimes when I read these "thank you" post-munch threads where people sometimes write about all the snogs they got and how many gropes they managed to get in. This forum is read by loads of people who have never been to a munch, and don't know anyone else here.
Who can be surprised that incidents of crude propositioning of strangers, and even physical assaults, occur.
I read this thread last week but has taken me till now to reply
I still feel sick in my stomach and feel that the people involved in the "live sex" episode both involved and egging on, disrespected both me and everyone else on the night with their activity, but what makes it worse is they havent had the decency to even apologise for their behaviour. it shows a total lack of respect to both myself and everyone else in my team.
HP you should never have to feel you couldnt go to someone on the door and whisper in their ear whats going on. I would expect it if someones misbehaving, everyone knew the rules or should have and i stressed about behaviour.
I wont post anymore im still too upset and annoyed about it all, but I will say one thing
I WILL find out one way or another who was involved and you wont be coming to another NW Munch so if your reading this then feel ashamed of yourselves. there are good people out there who's night you spoiled by your activity. I am disgusted by you, you disrespected me and betrayed my trust.
sorry to waffle on
Vicky
I hesitate to follow Vicky's post because the thought of her feeling as she does makes me curl up (with anger) inside.
The fact is most of are here for some sort of sexual activity. We are, however, not animals and should be able to apply intelligent distinction as to how we behave in certain situations.
Variety is the spice of life and to have an opportunity to get together with like minded people in a social environment is worth preserving.
FFS there's plenty of opportunity to get yer rocks off with whomever you want elsewhere.
I agree the rules should not be changed and if someone persists after being warned then the should receive a ban from munches.
Good topic Sercher! :thumbup:
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I haven't responded on this thread as yet either but Vicky's post has made me feel like I want to hug her really really tight. I think you did a fabulous job and I thoroughly enjoyed myself. I wasn't witness to any nonsense going on at all but it screams to me of a total lack of respect.
We are all here for the same reason, albeit in different extremes but we should all have one thing in common and that's respect for each other. We all know how to behave and we should all have read the munch/social rules before attending an event, therefore we shouldn't have to be told again what's acceptable and what's not, it's basic common sense!
The people involved, whether literally or watching should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves... it's one thing to have a snog as you would on any other night out but another thing altogether to overstep those boundaries. Clearly there was no thought for the organisers, your fellow members and all the newbies to whom we insist that a munch is a purely social occasion so they feel at ease.
Shame on you.
Before it closed we had made enquiries at The Pleasure Lounge in Leeds with a view to organising a small (it wasn't a very big place, but had a layout which seperated the lounge from the play areas very well) Munch in a swingers club, the idea being that until midnight it would be a totally normal Munch night ie non-sexual, but after midnight, for those that wished to stay, it would revert to being a swingers club. Albeit for only people who were at the Munch, no non-members allowed.
Seemed to us, that this would solve the age old problem of a swingers gettogether being non-sexual. Unfortunatly the club folded before we could get the idea off the ground.
But for a normal Munch in Vanilla premises it must not be Hardcore or else the owners won't let the venue be used again!
Vicky, we didn't see the behaviour mentioned, but totally agree they overstepped the mark.
John & Shel
I have only been to 2 munches. And I admit to getting drunk at both, mainly because thats what I do when I go out, and also being a little unsure of myself in that kind of situation, even though I had a fantastic hand holder!!!
I saw some boobs out, a couple of willies out, and even a couple of bums being spanked!!
To be fair, I've seen worse in my local night club. But a munch is a get together for people who are maybe trying to see if a swinging lifestyle is more suited to them then a vanilla one. So getting down to a nice bit of oral sex in a social setting (if this is what happened, I wasnt at this munch) wouldn't really help, more scare the crap out of them!!!
Yeah, I'm an outgoing sort of person, so if I felt someone was acting out of line, I'd mention it, even if it was in a jokey kind of way, to someone. Depending on the situation, and if I saw someone who was especially upset by the actions, I'd probably say something to the people involved. Even if this meant stopping a live sex show, and saying 'excuse me have you thought about how your actions are effecting other members!!!!'.
I've not really thought this through, just rambled, so sorry if it makes no sence, but I am a little drunk this evening!!!
I will re read in the morning, and edit as necessary!!!
xx
edited to say *other members* as opposed to *newbies*. I said this mainly, because established members would probably have less of a problem reporting said issue!!!
I have been to a number of munches and have seen the "look at me arent i outragous?" behaviour of some.
Where the problems could arise are when, for example, someone that barely knows her, or at all, unrequested grabs Mrs Happy Cats bum. If i then punch them and it all kicks off whose fault is it?
Mine probably, and i probably wouldnt do it, but i can see that scenario happening with others.
