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So going back to the OP. Would it be acceptable to find a woman who becomes your wife's lover and you create your own bisexual relationship. Or is it essential that you have an existing bi female to commence proceedings?
Actually reading some of the above posts this occurred to me. If you are a Bi female looking for another female why does it matter if the are Bi or not? Surely they can just be a Lesbian? Just thinking that as some of the girls above are talking about bi females looking for bi females to play with alone dunno
The trouble with lables is that they are so restrictive. I have been labled as bi for longer than I care to remember, however that is the lable that explains the sex of the people who atract me.
I do not consider myself bi, I just consider myself fussy...There is a certain atitude I find irisistabe be it in straight, bi, or gay .. male,female or homaphrodite people....
Does what atracts me make me bi? I dont think so. Does the sex of the people who atract me make me bi? ..perhaps.
i am not sure how ethical it is to draft in a committed homosexual, in order to fabricate a bi encounter. surely it's going to compromise a lesbian's core beliefs?
The trouble with lesbians (certainly on this site) is they are even more elusive than bi-females. I just did a search within 30 miles of my postcode and got 5 results, none of whom have been online within the last 90 days sad.
ah so cherchez la femme! ve vill be needing ze monsieur hercule poirot n'est ce pas?
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i am not sure how ethical it is to draft in a committed homosexual, in order to fabricate a bi encounter. surely it's going to compromise a lesbian's core beliefs?

If its two woman, how can you have a bi encounter? What was being discussed above was a singe Bi fem trying to find other single bi fems. If its just the two of you then what does it matter about the bi? That was my point.
ok got bored reading so just diving in n replying now so sorry if already covered i describe myself as bi but in the past after some same sex fun i have turned to mr b and said hmmm not so sure i'm all that bi after all then sometimes after a particularly good bit of play oh yes i am deffo bi so i ended up drawing the conclusion that it is not the gender i'm attracted to but the person sometimes i hit it off sexually with someone of the same gender sometimes i don't same as with folks of the opposite gender so i much prefer the term kaz used pansexual esppecially as i am more n more often finding myself turned on by pre op transexuals
its all very confusing :silly:
Blimey! This is more complicated than ordering breakfast in America.
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Ha ha, ben you are sooo correct ! These so called bi fem are what I call pillow princess, lye down spread legs and receive. There very much a delight to come across !

If you love a pillow princess so much I am prepared to help you out :giggle:
Go on, you know you want to :giggle:
xxxx
Mrs Leics
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Ha ha, ben you are sooo correct ! These so called bi fem are what I call pillow princess, lye down spread legs and receive. There very much a delight to come across !

If you love a pillow princess so much I am prepared to help you out :giggle:
Go on, you know you want to :giggle:
xxxx
Mrs Leics
But but that means peter won't get used !
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ok got bored reading so just diving in n replying now so sorry if already covered i describe myself as bi but in the past after some same sex fun i have turned to mr b and said hmmm not so sure i'm all that bi after all then sometimes after a particularly good bit of play oh yes i am deffo bi so i ended up drawing the conclusion that it is not the gender i'm attracted to but the person sometimes i hit it off sexually with someone of the same gender sometimes i don't same as with folks of the opposite gender so i much prefer the term kaz used pansexual esppecially as i am more n more often finding myself turned on by pre op transexuals
its all very confusing :silly:

I like what you have written Bouncy, makes good sence.
I class myself as a straight male but I also am turned on by pre op transexuals....
Just to throw some further confusion into the mix.... lol
For me, sexuality is about actual attraction and not just the sexual act.
I have been an 'out' bisexual woman since I was 18, but I didn't have sex with a woman until I was 20. I had met lots on the gay scene, kissed in night clubs and even went on the odd date, but never sex. I was still bisexual, even tho I wasn't having sex with women.
I am now married (to a man) and what I like is that those who haven't seen me in a while have to ask if it's to a man or a woman. I am still bisexual, even if we were monogamous and I never have sex with a woman again, I would still be bisexual and still say I am bisexual, as the attraction doesn't go away, you just no longer act upon it.
In the same way there have been lesbian nuns and gay priests for example - who have never have acted upon those feeling, but they are there and therefore they are still gay/lesbian or bi.
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I class myself as a straight male but I also am turned on by pre op transexuals....

You aren't alone.
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I class myself as a straight male but I also am turned on by pre op transexuals....

You aren't alone.
could this be an advert for the xxx files :giggle:
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ok got bored reading so just diving in n replying now so sorry if already covered i describe myself as bi but in the past after some same sex fun i have turned to mr b and said hmmm not so sure i'm all that bi after all then sometimes after a particularly good bit of play oh yes i am deffo bi so i ended up drawing the conclusion that it is not the gender i'm attracted to but the person sometimes i hit it off sexually with someone of the same gender sometimes i don't same as with folks of the opposite gender so i much prefer the term kaz used pansexual esppecially as i am more n more often finding myself turned on by pre op transexuals
its all very confusing :silly:

Hey, how you doin :rascal:
I consider myself to be a strait female as we don`t actively seek just bifems or bifem couples, I`m not even "curious" however on a few occassions when we have been out and about I have kissed and played with other fems simply because it was a highly sexy situation and I had a gorgeous voluptuous lady infront of me, but I didnt go as far as a bifem would, I suppose for want of a better phrase I was a "pillow princess" but being a bit of a sub it wasnt an issue for either of us and I really enjoyed the whole situation.
Its been said before, its not the gender of the person that makes us do things, for me its the person themselves and if i find them attractive ofcourse I am going to want to kiss and touch them.
I havent got a clue about anything which is labelled to be honest as I think, like what has been said already, its the situation you find yourself in that leads you to the sexual encounter that takes place.
The term bi seems to me (my point of view only not based on research) something that you can turn on and off as you see fit in a given situation and sexual attraction is intuitive. I can find both men and women attractive sexually but I dont do anything other than think that and do not act upon that thought. Thats because I find the 'play' rules too confusing. So I get my jollies from talking as that way I can chat to one and all and dont give a hoot about their sexual preferances.
Will I ever have an encounter with a woman? maybe but if I do I wont have a label saying I am bi. It will just mean I have had an incredibly good sexual experience different to what I have had in the past.
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Many good points made already,
i do think vampanya summed up well how some women may be using the description.
But assuming it is not done to please a partner or get meets,what is happening?
i wonder if we could perhaps consider that there are emotionaly bi and physically bi people?
By which i mean that there are some women who are not averse to letting another women get intimate physically,but mentally there attraction is to shouldnt probably be described as bi,simply openminded.i think many of the not very bi women you come across fit into this category,they will allow certian physical more.
Then thre are emotionally bi people,women who could have easliy ended up with a female life partner,who find women attractive and the idea of sex wth them a turn on in of does not have to mean they are split 50/50 down the middle,i know myself i find far more women than men attractive,and before i met kev pretty much accepted i was a lesbian.
Are there fewer emotionally bi women,it does seem that way,but the thread would have to wander into gender politcs,feminism and political lesbianism to a think cover why that might be
All of this is the preason why,where possible i describe myself as pansexual
i like people,if i like them well enough the arangement of there bits is irrelevant
(and i havnt brought up non binary defintions of gender cos i want a nap!)

Sorry I haven't read any further than Kaz's post just yet, but I do agree with your two thingys. I call it "situationally bi" and "bi". I am "bi" as I am attracted to women. I fancy females. I kiss, give oral and have sex with women. In fact I was pretty much gay before I met the mr, as men did naff all for me, but was highly attracted to women.
"Situationally bi" people I class as those who aren't attracted to women sexually but would 'fondle' in a swinging sense. How far they go is up to them.
To be honest, I never came across "situationally bi" ppl until we came into the swinging world.
:-)
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I think there's also a lot of people who are 'situationally' bi.

Aww cock, I've just seen that :lol2: I totally agree with u there! xx
:crazy: I am not sure if your are all confused or confusing lol
So glad mines simple so I dont have to worry about it I hate being confused.
Quote by Gurlonloan
Ha ha, ben you are sooo correct ! These so called bi fem are what I call pillow princess, lye down spread legs and receive. There very much a delight to come across !

If you love a pillow princess so much I am prepared to help you out :giggle:
Go on, you know you want to :giggle:
xxxx
Mrs Leics
But but that means peter won't get used !
Oh yes! Peter needs to get involved too :twisted:
Fascinating thread, glad I decided to pop into the forum again:-) Until a few weeks ago my profile on this and any other site I was a member of described me as straight. I changed this to bi-curious because I realised that in the right situation m/m contact could well be fun and add to the overall enjoyment, although my primary interest is and always will be females. Also I believe honesty is important.
Kaz's use of pansexual, or perhaps just open-minded is probably a better personal description because I agree with Corrie and others that it is the person that is attractive, irrespective of how their bits are arranged. Perhaps we are too hung up on trying to label or classify everything and everyone because things in boxes are easier to get hold of:-)
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ok got bored reading so just diving in n replying now so sorry if already covered i describe myself as bi but in the past after some same sex fun i have turned to mr b and said hmmm not so sure i'm all that bi after all then sometimes after a particularly good bit of play oh yes i am deffo bi so i ended up drawing the conclusion that it is not the gender i'm attracted to but the person sometimes i hit it off sexually with someone of the same gender sometimes i don't same as with folks of the opposite gender so i much prefer the term kaz used pansexual esppecially as i am more n more often finding myself turned on by pre op transexuals
its all very confusing :silly:

I like what you have written Bouncy, makes good sence.
I class myself as a straight male but I also am turned on by pre op transexuals....
oh cool i don't know wat it is but i find them soooo incredibly horny
oddest one i saw was on sexcetera there was pre op transexual male and a pre op transexual female making porn together boy did that give me lots of lady wanking fantasies
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ok got bored reading so just diving in n replying now so sorry if already covered i describe myself as bi but in the past after some same sex fun i have turned to mr b and said hmmm not so sure i'm all that bi after all then sometimes after a particularly good bit of play oh yes i am deffo bi so i ended up drawing the conclusion that it is not the gender i'm attracted to but the person sometimes i hit it off sexually with someone of the same gender sometimes i don't same as with folks of the opposite gender so i much prefer the term kaz used pansexual esppecially as i am more n more often finding myself turned on by pre op transexuals
its all very confusing :silly:

Hey, how you doin :rascal:
well hello my sexy friend where you been hiding not seen u about in yonks kiss
i can't help but think that a few decades ago the idea of being bi was most unheard of. people had 3somes or moresomes.
so i think that now people see bi people as the people who are going to fulfill the fantasy of a good old fashioned 3some.
which introduces another layer of obstacles and successes. so one wonders if an encounter as a 3some is remarkably different to 2 plus a bi?
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i can't help but think that a few decades ago the idea of being bi was most unheard of. people had 3somes or moresomes.
so i think that now people see bi people as the people who are going to fulfill the fantasy of a good old fashioned 3some.
which introduces another layer of obstacles and successes. so one wonders if an encounter as a 3some is remarkably different to 2 plus a bi?

I disagree. You may be correct in swinging terms but not in regards to wider society.
There have always been women who like women, men who like men and those who like the opposite gender (just not the labels Lesbian, Gay and Straight. So too, there have been people who are attracted to both the same and the opposite sex. Again long before the label bisexual appeared.
I have threesomes, foursomes and moresomes with people of the same and opposite gender because I am a swinger. I am a sexual being and I enjoy it. I also happen to be bisexual.
I would be bisexual if I never had a threesome, as that is not what being bisexual is about. Sexuality, no more and no less, is about attraction. I am attracted to both the same and the opposite gender, ergo I am bisexual. Because I am swinger I like them both together. Not all bisexuals do. In fact many, if not most, do not and would be extremely offended by any assertion that they do.
In my experience, as an out bisexual woman, we are simply people who are attracted in some capacity to both genders, but generally are with one gender at a time. I dated and had sex with both men and women separately long before I ever thought if putting them all together. If I never swing or have sex with a woman again, I will still be bisexual.
Is a threesome different from two people plus a bisexul? Depends on the situation and people. If everyone in the threesome is straight, or it's a bisexual woman and 2 straight men or vice versa then yes, that would be a vastly different experience to a meet including a bisexual person, as it may include same sex play.
so does bi just arrive at being a label or a sexuality? because it seems that in can be temporary, permanent, borrowed or stolen for the sake of fulfilling sex needs or taken on as an identity in the pursuit of a lifestyle.
it also sounds as if any of these uses can be applied or not in conventional or swinging scenarios.
i think that going by other threads the way bi is perceived is leaving people confused. not so much about the sexuality but about the meaning and intentions of the labelling.
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I class myself as a straight male but I also am turned on by pre op transexuals....

You aren't alone.
could this be an advert for the xxx files :giggle:
:laughabove:
well i think that labelling has been an important factor in how people live their lives. it doesn't work for all types, but it has brought focus and direction.
and this is a combined effort across other forms of media. the machine is waiting there for anyone to hop on and see what kind of journey they can go on.
its a great time to fulfill what you are, because there is so much assisting your chosen lifestyle.
but i think also its as much to do with consumerism as life affirming decisions.