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Hi Everybody,
Been on the IRC chatroom a few times, but this is my first post on the board. So Hiya!
Did anyone watch the Bush v Kerry debate on TV last night? (ok, ok, it was 3am but I couldn't sleep). Bush came across to me as a complete twit. I'm gobsmackingly amazed that the US public managed to elect him in the first place. Is there some weird democratic dynamic going on over there we don't know about, or do they really see Bush as a strong candidate? Christ, he's even ahead in the polls!
I don't think that Bush has been the same since she did Wuthering Heights!! Give me Lorraine Kelly any day!! confused :? :? :? lol
Ummm... I think it's John Kerry, not John Kelly.

No! Wait! apprently, the debate was between Bush and Matthew Kelly.
Oh!! Forgot to say, welcome aboard Roberto !! wave
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Ummm... I think it's John Kerry, not John Kelly.

No! Wait! apprently, the debate was between Bush and Matthew Kelly.

hahahahaha. I was just testing.
I totally agree its astounding that such an absolute and complete moroin is the most powerfull man in the world it beggers belief
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I totally agree its astounding that such an absolute and complete moroin is the most powerfull man in the world it beggers belief

Hi there Molly & Chris
Thought I'd have a quick perv at molly pert rack and discovered that you ad link's might need some attention. wink
Probably due to the new ad expiry period.
Dx
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I totally agree its astounding that such an absolute and complete moroin is the most powerfull man in the world it beggers belief

Hi there Molly & Chris
Thought I'd have a quick perv at molly pert rack and discovered that you ad link's might need some attention. wink
Probably due to the new ad expiry period.
Dx
in the process of getting it sorted surreycouple....whens the next party by the way?
Bush or Kerry,i couldnt care lees to be honest!! confused
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Bush or Kerry,i couldnt care lees to be honest!! confused

No interest in world politics you should be ashamed of yourself clare
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Bush or Kerry,i couldnt care lees to be honest!! confused

No interest in world politics you should be ashamed of yourself clare
Nope,whoever gets elected will be crap and bugger up way it wont affect my life so why give a toss?? dunno
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Bush or Kerry,i couldnt care lees to be honest!! confused

No interest in world politics you should be ashamed of yourself clare
Nope,whoever gets elected will be crap and bugger up way it wont affect my life so why give a toss?? dunno
Fair enough everybody is entitled to there opinion....
this is how he got to be president
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Hi Everybody,
Been on the IRC chatroom a few times, but this is my first post on the board. So Hiya!
Did anyone watch the Bush v Kelly debate on TV last night? (ok, ok, it was 3am but I couldn't sleep). Bush came across to me as a complete twit. I'm gobsmackingly amazed that the US public managed to elect him in the first place. Is there some weird democratic dynamic going on over there we don't know about, or do they really see Bush as a strong candidate? Christ, he's even ahead in the polls!

well roberto
i believe having his brother as governor of florida had a touch to do with their democratic process last time! i mean even they weren't stupid enough to really elect him were they? trouble is i don't see that wossisnames gonna do much better? dunno i'm quite resigned to fools running the entire world, but there you go! but somehow don't think even jed can get ole dubya back in this time!
and :welcome: to the cafe BTW! have fun!
neil x x x ;)
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I totally agree its astounding that such an absolute and complete moroin is the most powerfull man in the world it beggers belief

Damn right. And people worry about terrorists!! The biggest threat facing the world today is thought by many people to be Global Warming, rather than terrorism. And the US is the biggest culprit, with the Republicans backed by the oil industry, very worrying indeed.
Kerry certainly won't hold his hands up immediately & cave in to the demands of the rest of the world on this, but he would be much more likely to accept some of the responsibility. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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I totally agree its astounding that such an absolute and complete moroin is the most powerfull man in the world it beggers belief

Damn right. And people worry about terrorists!! The biggest threat facing the world today is thought by many people to be Global Warming, rather than terrorism. And the US is the biggest culprit, with the Republicans backed by the oil industry, very worrying indeed.
Kerry certainly won't hold his hands up immediately & cave in to the demands of the rest of the world on this, but he would be much more likely to accept some of the responsibility. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
At least someone has an interest in the world around them.
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in the process of getting it sorted surreycouple....whens the next party by the way?

Hi guys
Next party is on the 30th of October - if you fancy making the trek down to Surrey you'd be very welcome.
Its looking like its gonna be a good-un..!!! wink
Dx
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in the process of getting it sorted surreycouple....whens the next party by the way?

Hi guys
Next party is on the 30th of October - if you fancy making the trek down to Surrey you'd be very welcome.
Its looking like its gonna be a good-un..!!! wink
Dx
Was the link in your signature earlier or am i blind?
Welcome roberto and thanks for posting something intelligent! and interesting.
The future of president of America will have a great relevance not just for this country but allso for the rest of the world, to ignore the presidential elections is very short sighted
Personally, I think that like Britain the US needs a change of leadership and within reason,, any change is better than no change!!
Once again Robertto welcome xxx
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.... and within reason,, any change is better than no change!!
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I thought that when Tony took over from the Conservatives........ look how wrong I was!
But in this case I think a trained chimp would be a better president than Bush!
Roger.
I think that they are both tossers! Most Americans I have met from the blue collar belt, do not have this god aweful attitude of how they are the worlds saviour and who must defend the world, and they talk about allies to help them keep the world free. I dont doubt they do a good job, but for firks sake you dont want to hear it day in day out...?
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Hi Everybody,
Been on the IRC chatroom a few times, but this is my first post on the board. So Hiya!
Did anyone watch the Bush v Kerry debate on TV last night? (ok, ok, it was 3am but I couldn't sleep). Bush came across to me as a complete twit. I'm gobsmackingly amazed that the US public managed to elect him in the first place. Is there some weird democratic dynamic going on over there we don't know about, or do they really see Bush as a strong candidate? Christ, he's even ahead in the polls!

Being from across the pond and a bit north, I say the last great president was Clinton. I marvel at what kind of faith the Americans have in Bush and....WHY??
roger too true! 18 years was it, and whats changed? dunno i can only imagine voting for him again, or brown as the case may be, cos i shudder at the very thought of michael howard! something of the night indeed!
and silk/big g, while i preferred clinton to bush, did he not start the wheels in motion re: afghanistan and iraq before dubya filled his boots? i might be wrong, and i know domestically in the US he was a good pres. just not sure on US foreign policy, as ever.
neil x x x ;)
Sadly the president of the USA is having and will continue to have a direct impact on most of us in one aspect or another of our daily grasp of Foreign policy exhibits all the craft and subtlety of amputational surgery.
The world is undoubtedly a better place without Saddam Hussein, unfortunately it would be a much better place without George W Bush.
Do you think we should send the troops into America to depose him? :shock:
....and one day we will have Arnie to look up to :doh:
Just like every other faux political discussion ive heard there are always lots of people willing to criticise , in this case Bush ( albeit with identical platitudes to the ones they applied to his predecessor) . Fact is criticism is easy when you dont provide any solutions or constructive comment .
Shallow political comment is as worthless as part time religion and perhaps its best left un discussed here and better talked about where they have more motivation and actual knowledge of the subject .
Just an opinion of course .
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Sadly the president of the USA is having and will continue to have a direct impact on most of us in one aspect or another of our daily grasp of Foreign policy exhibits all the craft and subtlety of amputational surgery.
The world is undoubtedly a better place without Saddam Hussein, unfortunately it would be a much better place without George W Bush.
Do you think we should send the troops into America to depose him? :shock:
....and one day we will have Arnie to look up to :doh:

Is the world really a better place with out Saddam? Tell that to the women of Uraq who are no longer safe to go out side their own front doors.
I would rarely advocate violence but in this instance , should bush get back int office then we should seriously consider it!!Maybe a more peaceful solution would be to try Bush for war crimes!!
Of course " safety " and freedom arent always bedfellows Foxy.
A change for the worse is not better than no change.
While bush comes across as a dummy it takes more than a small amount of intelligence and savvy to become a millionaire, and a lot more to become president. Obviously, communication is not his strong point, which makes people sneer at him....something I know a lot about. It's worth pointing out that many highly respected scientists come across as morons on tv...
Since we're on this subject, kerry looks a loser already. He comes across as an opportunist and vote chaser. Bush is already president and the public prefers a person who knows what's what anyway...bush has the history and the contacts, and since his family is strong in american politics, it seems that the odds favour him.
As for global warming, well, that depends on who and what you read.
Is global warming actually happening ?
Or is the CO2 levell rising because of global warming ?
Dunno.
This site seems to have a more than usual amount of info, drawn from a large amount of sources...

Look on the right menu...
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Just like every other faux political discussion ive heard there are always lots of people willing to criticise , in this case Bush ( albeit with identical platitudes to the ones they applied to his predecessor) . Fact is criticism is easy when you dont provide any solutions or constructive comment .
Shallow political comment is as worthless as part time religion and perhaps its best left un discussed here and better talked about where they have more motivation and actual knowledge of the subject .
Just an opinion of course .

So only Politicians and the Intellectual Elite should discuss politics then? And only priests and the Devoutly Religious should discuss religion?
As the two topics of discussion that have the most impact on human existance surely everyone has a duty to have an opinion on both.
I will admit though that this might not be the best site for these discussions.
Roger (Bring on the dancing girls!!!!) lol