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can straight men catch HIV?

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Emotive subject isnt it.
No we dont know.
We do as sentient human beings have a right to consider the available facts and make our own decisions.
Quote by benrums0n
Going back to the original thread- the likelihood of a hetrosexual male acquiring HIV.
According to the government facts there were 84 women for every 100,000 women in this country with HIV. Let us assume that a similar number have HIV but do not yet know. Lets call it 1500 women per million or per cent or 1.5 in a thousand.
Assume that you always acquire HIV if you have unprotected sex if your partner has HIV. Assume also that every one with HIV knowingly has unprotected sex. On that basis if you have sex with a different woman every day it would take you 300 encounters before it became more likely than not that you acquire HIV.
Makes ya think dont it.
Oh and all the headlines in the lobby group articles are of course the usual distortions of fact. For example the headline "heterosexual hiv cases increase" could also be the headline "blood transfusion hiv cases decrease" The base data can be accessed here.

so go cross a road with your eyes closed, pick a quiet one, then cross it twice a week at varying times without looking...
Would you risk it? It could be the first time you cross could be 2nd,3rd or fourth it maybe 300, could be never...
the point is why take the chance anyway when you don't have too?
More to the point why risk others while your at it, as individuals we all make choices however we shouldn't shirk the responsibility of those choices. This is ok when it is us alone who who take a chance but when our behaviour can POTENTIALLY affect others no matter what the risk we should be mindful and not inflict the sum of our choices on them.
The OP's original point is just plain irresponsible, the same way as leavin a toddler at home for '5 minutes' or leaving the stove on when you go out.
They may be calcualated risks but they are risks all the same and if they can be avoided then they should be.
its all lies lies lies and statistics....
statistics is a nice word for bullshit....i know i work with em lol
What is still bugging me about all this despite the well intentioned advice and science to support one's opinion is..... if there is still a risk, even with protection; why are you taking it?
The way I see it is, take the HIV virus and bottle it, tip the bottle into a puddle... You've a cut on your toe it needs soothing, would you dip your toe into that puddle?
Thought not.
Yes, losing that hour has done crazy things to my mind... tata :crazy:
actually.... very interesting article out today....
from
Many over-45s 'ignore STI risks'
STI rates have been increasing among people over 45
Many middle-aged people are continuing to take an irresponsible attitude to their sexual health, say experts.
The Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain polled over 2,000 adults.
Nearly a fifth of those polled aged 45 to 54 said they had had unprotected sex with someone other than a long-term partner in the past five years.
There is a misconception that their risk of catching a sexually transmitted infection (STI) is "next to nothing", says the RPSGB.
Sexually transmitted infections have doubled in under a decade in people over 45 and have been rising at a faster rate than in the young, recent figures from the Health Protection Agency show.
Older people are increasingly likely to be single or undergoing relationship changes and are less likely to consistently use condoms, perhaps because the risk of pregnancy no longer exists, experts have observed.
The RPSGB's survey of 2,258 UK adults - half who were aged 45 plus - found older generations were flippant about the risks of catching an STI.

Naughty 40s
A quarter of the 45-54-year-olds surveyed said they did not use contraception as they trusted the person they were sleeping with not to have an STI, with one in 10 saying they did not like the feeling of condoms.
Nearly a third surveyed described their risk of getting an STI when having unprotected sex with a new partner or someone other than their current partner as unlikely or very unlikely.
A further 20% believed that their chances of picking up an infection were "next to nothing".
Double the number of over 55s (25%) believed their chances of acquiring an STI from unprotected sex were next to nothing, compared to 13% of those aged 18-24.
RPSGB spokeswoman Heidi Wright said: "The majority of safe sex messages are targeted at teenagers, but as more adults begin new relationships later in life, they quite clearly need advice too.
"You can't always tell who has an STI and infections don't discriminate on the basis of age."
She said local pharmacies were an excellent source of sexual health advice and support.
Lisa Power of the Terrence Higgins Trust said: "Teenagers aren't the only people who think they're immune from harm.
"Whatever your age, if you have a new sexual partner or more than one, condoms should be a basic part of ensuring your sexual health and theirs.
"It's more embarrassing to get an infection than to use a condom."
A Department of Health spokesperson said: "The message is the same for everyone - anyone having unprotected sex potentially puts themselves at risk of an STI.
"Infections rates have risen in all age groups, including older people.
"Older people also need to be aware of the need to use condoms consistently, particularly those who are newly single and entering relationships with new partners."
Quote by jaymar
As I said, it can take up to 3 months for the Anti-b's or gen's of the HIV virus to manifest themselves.

Yes. But that is only of use if a person is tested FOR those antibodies.
If untested, and the hiv is present, a person will slowly decline through a variety of "steps" of ill-health. By the time a person who has hiv but is undiagnosed IS diagnosed that person will then have aids. At that time that person will not only have to fight other illnesses (such as pneumonia) but also have to suffer any problems presented to them by the administration of anti-virus drugs.
So, go to the clinic for tests and say yes when they ask if you want the hiv test.
Your life isn't in their hands, but yours!
Quote by jaymar
The way I see it is, take the HIV virus and bottle it, tip the bottle into a puddle... You've a cut on your toe it needs soothing, would you dip your toe into that puddle?
Thought not.
Yes, losing that hour has done crazy things to my mind... tata :crazy:

eloquently put jay
Quote by JTS

As I said, it can take up to 3 months for the Anti-b's or gen's of the HIV virus to manifest themselves.

Yes. But that is only of use if a person is tested FOR those antibodies.
If untested, and the hiv is present, a person will slowly decline through a variety of "steps" of ill-health. By the time a person who has hiv but is undiagnosed IS diagnosed that person will then have aids. At that time that person will not only have to fight other illnesses (such as pneumonia) but also have to suffer any problems presented to them by the administration of anti-virus drugs.
So, go to the clinic for tests and say yes when they ask if you want the hiv test.
Your life isn't in their hands, but yours!
I know!!!!!! I was replying to your bit about the 10 yr infections... rolleyes
lol
Quote by fabio
actually.... very interesting article out today....
from

Many over-45s 'ignore STI risks'
STI rates have been increasing among people over 45
Many middle-aged people are continuing to take an irresponsible attitude to their sexual health, say experts.
The Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain polled over 2,000 adults.
Nearly a fifth of those polled aged 45 to 54 said they had had unprotected sex with someone other than a long-term partner in the past five years.
There is a misconception that their risk of catching a sexually transmitted infection (STI) is "next to nothing", says the RPSGB.
Sexually transmitted infections have doubled in under a decade in people over 45 and have been rising at a faster rate than in the young, recent figures from the Health Protection Agency show.
Older people are increasingly likely to be single or undergoing relationship changes and are less likely to consistently use condoms, perhaps because the risk of pregnancy no longer exists, experts have observed.
The RPSGB's survey of 2,258 UK adults - half who were aged 45 plus - found older generations were flippant about the risks of catching an STI.

Naughty 40s
A quarter of the 45-54-year-olds surveyed said they did not use contraception as they trusted the person they were sleeping with not to have an STI, with one in 10 saying they did not like the feeling of condoms.
Nearly a third surveyed described their risk of getting an STI when having unprotected sex with a new partner or someone other than their current partner as unlikely or very unlikely.
A further 20% believed that their chances of picking up an infection were "next to nothing".
Double the number of over 55s (25%) believed their chances of acquiring an STI from unprotected sex were next to nothing, compared to 13% of those aged 18-24.
RPSGB spokeswoman Heidi Wright said: "The majority of safe sex messages are targeted at teenagers, but as more adults begin new relationships later in life, they quite clearly need advice too.
"You can't always tell who has an STI and infections don't discriminate on the basis of age."
She said local pharmacies were an excellent source of sexual health advice and support.
Lisa Power of the Terrence Higgins Trust said: "Teenagers aren't the only people who think they're immune from harm.
"Whatever your age, if you have a new sexual partner or more than one, condoms should be a basic part of ensuring your sexual health and theirs.
"It's more embarrassing to get an infection than to use a condom."
A Department of Health spokesperson said: "The message is the same for everyone - anyone having unprotected sex potentially puts themselves at risk of an STI.
"Infections rates have risen in all age groups, including older people.
"Older people also need to be aware of the need to use condoms consistently, particularly those who are newly single and entering relationships with new partners."

It is a interesting article Fabs, indeed from my experience, believe it or not the teens are the best at coming forward and asking for screening, the 40's plus are rarely in attendance and when they are they tend to be old fashioned giving false names and hiding behind cloaks. lol
Instead of society damning young people they should be commended for looking after their health far better than a lot of adults.
Can straight men catch HIV? Yes, it appears they can