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We came here to meet originally and we have since decided to give up, we may at some stage continue again but that isn’t at this stage something I feel I want as I am happy with what has happened so far.
But I (mrs) still like to come on the chat rooms have a laugh and banter with people I have spoken to here on a non sexual level.
I sometimes feel that purely just being on this site might give off the wrong impression as I have guys that seem to think I am still looking for something else.
I see this as a swinging site and enjoy like minded people that can hold a conversation not just based on a sexual level, but I feel with an open mind and have some good laughs and great chats.
Am I misleading just because I am here?
Can some be accepted just as friends without the pressure of feeling that we are here for other agendas?
Should I just find somewhere else to go to extend my network of friends?
Sometime I feel like a fraud being here this upsets me.
You've nothing to feel a fraud about hunni.
Everyone's on here for a number of different reasons and a lot are just here for chats and online fun - nothing wrong with that and it doesn't make you any less of a swinger just because your meet count isn't up a certain number a year!
Just a thought though babes - maybe rewrite your profile a little. The first part says how it is and that's all you really need to say.
You stick to what YOU want to do. You're here for YOUR reasons and no one else's. If they don't like it then fk em....or not as the case may be :giggle:
minx, i for one would miss you so much, so dont you dare go anywhere...but i know what you mean.
a few month sago i decided i wanted more than swinging i wanted a relationship, so i removed any ads, and altered the profile to make it clear i would not be swinging any more and my reasons why.
now i wasnt sure i would find a man who could tick all my boxes, but off i went onto a vanilla site and tried the dating thing. but i still came here every day, not tomeet people, but to keep intouch with my swinging community,friends,and the forum debates.
its very early days but i have met the most wonderful man ever. and i was honest with him about my swinging and to cut long story short we will be swinging together.
i couldnt ask for more.
However had i met someone that was not happy to swing i would not have left the site.
you have made it clear in your profile you are not here looking to meet. you are not misleadng anyone.
( might be idea to remove yor ad though wink )
this site is a community, for the curious, for the active, for the retired, for the player, watchers, straigh, bi, gay,tv, etc etc its all these wondefull diverse people outlooks and backgrounds that make this site the community it is.
STAY PUT GIRLY kiss
xxx fem xxx
Yes we can be here just to chat!
The people who clearly state that on their profiles have my respect!
Circumstances change, and you may longer meet at present, that does not mean you should feel a fraud.
I have many chat friends on here, some now on MSN, male and female, we will never meet them on a sexual basis, its great to type Minx!
There is room for all sorts on here, the meeters and the non meeters, as long as the profile message sets it out straight, then there is no room for confusion.
We have arranged meets via this site, buy I love all the other stuff with it as well as the meets!
You and others like your self stay put, and never feel a fraud smile
Lucys post.
This is supposed to be a swinging site but it certainly seems to be leaning well over to a social side more and more. Many who don't want verification have said in other threads that it is because they don't want to judged - others have clearly said they are only here for the chat/frienship and nothing more.
Perhaps it should be a social site and open up chat rooms for non sexual chat? Just a thought.
Perhaps it could just be called Adult Heaven then no one would feel that they had anything to live up to.
Not trying to be provocative here btw - just airing a thought.
We rarely meet these days, but we stay here because we do - sometimes. Would not see the point of being on a swinging site if we didn't.
Quote by Theladyisaminx
We came here to meet originally and we have since decided to give up, we may at some stage continue again but that isn’t at this stage something I feel I want as I am happy with what has happened so far.
But I (mrs) still like to come on the chat rooms have a laugh and banter with people I have spoken to here on a non sexual level.
I sometimes feel that purely just being on this site might give off the wrong impression as I have guys that seem to think I am still looking for something else.
I see this as a swinging site and enjoy like minded people that can hold a conversation not just based on a sexual level, but I feel with an open mind and have some good laughs and great chats.
Am I misleading just because I am here?
Can some be accepted just as friends without the pressure of feeling that we are here for other agendas?
Should I just find somewhere else to go to extend my network of friends?
Sometime I feel like a fraud being here this upsets me.
I think people who are on this site not to meet will say, it is fine to be here purely for the social side.
Those that are here to meet will say, whilst the social side is good, they are here to meet.
I think the two different groups are obviously looking for different things. For us we are here to meet, but without the social interaction, there would be no meets.
If people are not looking at meeting and have that on their profiles, then nobody can say they " could " be leading others on, as far as meeting is concerned.
I know of people who have chatted to others and then told them they were not meeting. The abuse they then received as the other party thought they were leading them on in some way.
You cannot swing without social interaction, unless you go to a club and just get shagged by anyone that happens to be there. So really I suppose for most this site is a social site but to a lot of people with the intention of meeting.
For others like yourself Minx, as long as people that are " chatting you up " are aware that you are not meeting, then chat away all you like.....but not just in my ear though eh? wink
Quote by Theladyisaminx
We came here to meet originally and we have since decided to give up, we may at some stage continue again but that isn’t at this stage something I feel I want as I am happy with what has happened so far.
But I (mrs) still like to come on the chat rooms have a laugh and banter with people I have spoken to here on a non sexual level.
I sometimes feel that purely just being on this site might give off the wrong impression as I have guys that seem to think I am still looking for something else.
I see this as a swinging site and enjoy like minded people that can hold a conversation not just based on a sexual level, but I feel with an open mind and have some good laughs and great chats.
Am I misleading just because I am here?
Can some be accepted just as friends without the pressure of feeling that we are here for other agendas?
Should I just find somewhere else to go to extend my network of friends?
Sometime I feel like a fraud being here this upsets me.

I have always said that I am here to make friends and if anything were to come from that, then that would be a bonus.... wink
It is not like you have closed the door completely, you have said you are not meeting at the moment and that may change....
I would miss you if you went, you contribute a lot to the site.. as long as you are not misleading people then you don't have explain to anyone the circumstances...
I have taken breaks from it at times.. and it has made me a better person
you do what you want to do hunny......
sean xxxx
too hot a point that i noticed is where you say open up no sexual chat rooms.
there are already. i go into the devn and cornwall room, sometime yes there may be members showing on chatin cam doing sexual things, the chat may become sexual, but on the whole it isnt.
its like minded people, alot who do meet up and play, attend socials etc catchimg ipwith each other,musing about the days events etc.
you may strick upnew friendships, start chatting to find stuff out about people with the view to arranging a sexual/swinging meet, but i dont typically go in there for sex chat.
regarding the making it a adult site, well it is a adult site, you have to be 18 to join. but its not a sex site its a swinging community, in my eyes.
the reason i hate the whole where are you,news feeds stuff that other social networking sites have is that i dont like my privacy being intruded. i dont use the likes of fb for that reason aswell.
but yes i guess on some levels sh is a network site, i like to make friends who have the same liberated outlooks. i dont have to be my vanilla persona here.
xxx fem xxxx
We just don't like guys appearing on cam and start pulling on their meat. Realise that you only see them if you click but sometimes it is nice to see a face rather than a cock when you are chatting
Rooms where sexual camming is not allowed is what I was refferring to. To be fair, it is hardly relevant to us because I can count the number of times on two hands that we have been in the chat rooms since the day we joined, I was just making a point on the social side of the Site as opposed to the sexual side.
As it happens neither of us understand why anyone would want to be a Member of a Swinging Site if they are not interested in Swinging. It seems to us, to be a bit of an odd irony.
Adult Heaven - does have a bit of a ring to it don't you think? Especially if you not a Swinger but want to be a Member of an adult themed community.
Anyway, must dash - I need to log on to the fishing forum that I am thinking of joining - why? Because I am not interested in fishing of course.
Quote by Too Hot
We just don't like guys appearing on cam and start pulling on their meat. Realise that you only see them if you click but sometimes it is nice to see a face rather than a cock when you are chatting
Rooms where sexual camming is not allowed is what I was refferring to. To be fair, it is hardly relevant to us because I can count the number of times on two hands that we have been in the chat rooms since the day we joined, I was just making a point on the social side of the Site as opposed to the sexual side.
As it happens neither of us understand why anyone would want to be a Member of a Swinging Site if they are not interested in Swinging. It seems to us, to be a bit of an odd irony.
Adult Heaven - does have a bit of a ring to it don't you think? Especially if you not a Swinger but want to be a Member of an adult themed community.
Anyway, must dash - I need to log on to the fishing forum that I am thinking of joining - why? Because I am not interested in fishing of course.

Okay... I'm not really getting your point Too Hot... you don't want to see men on cam having a wank, you'd rather see the face of the person you're chatting to whilst in chat, yet you don't use the chatrooms? Erm... so what are you saying exactly? dunno
Incidentally, I went fishing for the first time last summer... I had the monster of all hangovers after our work office do. I didn't manage to hang onto breakfast although I did manage not to shag my colleague even in my drunken stupor! redface Anyway... I took my hangover, with my wellies and another equally hungover mate from work and off we went to a pond full of trout (or so they said, I'm not convinced!) It was one of the most pleasant experiences I've ever had with a hangover. :mrgreen:
We didn't catch anything, in fact, I suspect the fish were in there waving at us or giving us the v's but to be honest, I didn't care, it was the taking part that counted! wink
Minxy... since there's pretty much something here for everyone... even some things I'd never even thought about... I don't see any reason not to hang out and chew the fat! :thumbup:
If it is going to be more and more of a social site as that is the way it appears to be going then I am only suggesting that there should be non sexual chat rooms.
Irrelevant to us - but just an observation IF the drift away from a Sexual Site to a Social Site continues.
If you are wondering what I mean about this - then just peek into the chat rooms and look at the on going threads. In my opinion, the reason that many prolific posters just don't want verification is that they would be 'outed' as non players. This would not be a problem if it was a social site as opposed to a swinging.
In case you wonder what we would vote for:
YES - To Verification
CANCEL - all non active subscriptions
PERMISSION - to name and shame
SEPERATE - Adult and Swinging sites
Then again, it is just our opinion and we not going to fall out with anyone who thinks differently.
Quote by Dirtygirly
We just don't like guys appearing on cam and start pulling on their meat. Realise that you only see them if you click but sometimes it is nice to see a face rather than a cock when you are chatting
Rooms where sexual camming is not allowed is what I was refferring to. To be fair, it is hardly relevant to us because I can count the number of times on two hands that we have been in the chat rooms since the day we joined, I was just making a point on the social side of the Site as opposed to the sexual side.
As it happens neither of us understand why anyone would want to be a Member of a Swinging Site if they are not interested in Swinging. It seems to us, to be a bit of an odd irony.
Adult Heaven - does have a bit of a ring to it don't you think? Especially if you not a Swinger but want to be a Member of an adult themed community.
Anyway, must dash - I need to log on to the fishing forum that I am thinking of joining - why? Because I am not interested in fishing of course.

Okay... I'm not really getting your point Too Hot... you don't want to see men on cam having a wank, you'd rather see the face of the person you're chatting to whilst in chat, yet you don't use the chatrooms? Erm... so what are you saying exactly? dunno
Incidentally, I went fishing for the first time last summer... I had the monster of all hangovers after our work office do. I didn't manage to hang onto breakfast although I did manage not to shag my colleague even in my drunken stupor! redface Anyway... I took my hangover, with my wellies and another equally hungover mate from work and off we went to a pond full of trout (or so they said, I'm not convinced!) It was one of the most pleasant experiences I've ever had with a hangover. :mrgreen:
We didn't catch anything, in fact, I suspect the fish were in there waving at us or giving us the v's but to be honest, I didn't care, it was the taking part that counted! wink
Minxy... since there's pretty much something here for everyone... even some things I'd never even thought about... I don't see any reason not to hang out and chew the fat! :thumbup:
Quote by Too Hot
If it is going to be more and more of a social site as that is the way it appears to be going then I am only suggesting that there should be non sexual chat rooms.
Whenever I open a chat room I do generally make the room name "Minx not meeting just here to chat to friends"]
Irrelevant to us - but just an observation IF the drift away from a Sexual Site to a Social Site continues.
That is where I see the confusion lies, I don't see this as a sex site, I see it as a swinging site, I believe there to be a difference.
If you are wondering what I mean about this - then just peek into the chat rooms and look at the on going threads.
In my opinion, the reason that many prolific posters just don't want verification is that they would be 'outed' as non players. This would not be a problem if it was a social site as opposed to a swinging.
I don't want verificatation but I pay my subsciption, as I am not meeting should I be intitled to 7 months refund? Then pack my bags?
I do think it is a swinging site as least that is why I joined, please correct me if I am wrong
You have metioned it as a swinging site plus a sex site.
What site is it?
And what does that stand for please?
In case you wonder what we would vote for:
YES - To Verification
I voted no but have been active and do pay a membership
CANCEL - all non active subscriptions
Am I active?
PERMISSION - to name and shame
I disagree
SEPERATE - Adult and Swinging sites
What would be the difference?
Then again, it is just our opinion and we not going to fall out with anyone who thinks differently. ]

Everyone is intitled to their opinions I hope you don't mind I have just put mine.
If swinging is 'non sexual' then I think I'd better go back to bed now and start all over again in the morning.
I think that adult social networking and swinging are about as similar as chalk and cheese and whichever way you look at it swinging must have a sexual edge because of the ultimate sexual conclusion. If there is no ultimate sexual conclusion then it must be adult social networking.
To be a swinger who does not indulge sexual activity is a bit of a paradox isn't it?
How about a biker who doesn't actually ride?
Or a pilot who does not fly?
What about a singer who doesn't sing?
I don't have any problem at all with anyone who does not like swinging, or wants to have a break from it - I am only suggesting that there be a seperate part of the Site for adult social networking.
Just trying to be helpful - if a teeny bit controversial as well.
Why do you have to explain or justify why you are here?
dunno
I actually think that Too Hot has a point. All be it a small one. Having a mindset is one thing, but I would presume that those who are on this site have something sexual to gain from being on this site. The difference between the people that I contact through here and those that I meet socially in 'real life' is that those here know that I swing and at some point the thing we have in common is that we have sex with people with whom we have no emotional connection. (I know swinging is a little more or less complicated for some people but forgive me for generalising)
I couldn't actually care less why people are here but it is a little odd to me that some people who are here don't actually swing and have never swung. Having that thought in my head is just that though, a thought. I don't care enough to question anyone doing it. Although a couple of people
whom I have chatted to have told me why they are here and it is all cool beans to me. It is less competition wink
Anyhoo.... because no-one can really define what a swinger is I couldn't say who 'belongs' here and who doesn't.
I just thought that I would add my penny worths thought.
Quote by Sassy-Seren
You've nothing to feel a fraud about hunni.
Everyone's on here for a number of different reasons and a lot are just here for chats and online fun - nothing wrong with that and it doesn't make you any less of a swinger just because your meet count isn't up a certain number a year!
Just a thought though babes - maybe rewrite your profile a little. The first part says how it is and that's all you really need to say.
You stick to what YOU want to do. You're here for YOUR reasons and no one else's. If they don't like it then fk em....or not as the case may be :giggle:
I am here to make good friends as well as good sex partners :P :P :P :P :P :P
so far have made 2 couples as friends and one single girl again as a have had fun with all but class our meetings as fun friendship and sex , all what we want and enjoy so it works how ever i am still looking for the friendly element in swinging , :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
and trying hard to find and build this up with couples ie: trust being genuine etc etc , I wont give up as i know they are out there , I was with one couple for over 3 years and it was complete bliss for us all biggrin :D :D :D :D .......... so riendship for me is important .
steve x
I don't like the 'sex site'label.
I consider 'sex sites' to be places where things/services of a sexual nature are for sale.
this is a site for people of an open mind.
whather they take that open mind through to sexual practice is thier business.
I like the company, be that virtual or 'real' of people of a similar out look on this level to myself.
...you poor souls
lp
Quote by __random_orbit__
I don't like the 'sex site'label.
I consider 'sex sites' to be places where things/services of a sexual nature are for sale.
this is a site for people of an open mind.
whather they take that open mind through to sexual practice is thier business.
I like the company, be that virtual or 'real' of people of a similar out look on this level to myself.
...you poor souls
lp

I think that was something like what I was trying to say further up. lp you articulate fecker worship
Quote by noladreams30
I don't like the 'sex site'label.
I consider 'sex sites' to be places where things/services of a sexual nature are for sale.
this is a site for people of an open mind.
whather they take that open mind through to sexual practice is thier business.
I like the company, be that virtual or 'real' of people of a similar out look on this level to myself.
...you poor souls
lp

I think that was something like what I was trying to say further up. lp you articulate fecker worship
DITTO babes!!! Oh and to tart, laugh relax and perve redface surprisedops:
Quote by noladreams30
I don't like the 'sex site'label.
I consider 'sex sites' to be places where things/services of a sexual nature are for sale.
this is a site for people of an open mind.
whather they take that open mind through to sexual practice is thier business.
I like the company, be that virtual or 'real' of people of a similar out look on this level to myself.
...you poor souls
lp

I think that was something like what I was trying to say further up. lp you articulate fecker worshipI shall be accused of no such thing young lady!
How dare you?!?
articulate indeed! Not fr years I'll have you know... and even then, nothing was proven.
lp
ive always thought that to be on a site called "swingingheaven" and not be an active swinger is a bit of a contradiction in terms.
I also think that it would be easy for someone, say a journalist, or private Investigator to use this "angle" as a lever to delve into the private life of others and not have to use that old cliche " i made my excuses and left" if this makes sense.
Whilst i am not against people using the site purely for social reasons Im not convinced that the forums will provide you with a balanced view of all the sites members.
*finds a tally card to put up beside the verifications* :giggle:
Is there a monthly target or a quota to fill? lol
bolt
May I suggest anyone who is in any doubt as to what a swinger is, then either Google the word or use a dictionary.
To swing means to have sex with others..........period. If you have no intention of swinging, then how can you be labelled a swinger?
People who just want to chat could chat on any network site but.....those who want to swing need to go on a swingers site, like this one.
The meaning of the word swinger is there for all to see, and this site does say Swinging Heaven.............no?
Quote by DeeCee
ive always thought that to be on a site called "swingingheaven" and not be an active swinger is a bit of a contradiction in terms.
I also think that it would be easy for someone, say a journalist, or private Investigator to use this "angle" as a lever to delve into the private life of others and not have to use that old cliche " i made my excuses and left" if this makes sense.
Whilst i am not against people using the site purely for social reasons Im not convinced that the forums will provide you with a balanced view of all the sites members.

Dee what happens if you were active but are not now actice, but are unsure at this stage if we will be active again haven't totally ruled it out.
We are just not active right now.
Does this still mean we are swingers, were swingers or are no more swingers? If that is the correct term.
Quote by kentswingers777
May I suggest anyone who is in any doubt as to what a swinger is, then either Google the word or use a dictionary.

To swing means to have sex with others..........period. If you have no intention of swinging, then how can you be labelled a swinger?
People who just want to chat could chat on any network site but.....those who want to swing need to go on a swingers site, like this one.
The meaning of the word swinger is there for all to see, and this site does say Swinging Heaven.............no?

Phew! That's a relief, I have the intention... I'm just not very good! lol redface
*wipes brow and straightens "Swinger" label* :mrgreen:
bolt
Quote by kentswingers777
May I suggest anyone who is in any doubt as to what a swinger is, then either Google the word or use a dictionary.
To swing means to have sex with others..........period. If you have no intention of swinging, then how can you be labelled a swinger?
People who just want to chat could chat on any network site but.....those who want to swing need to go on a swingers site, like this one.
The meaning of the word swinger is there for all to see, and this site does say Swinging Heaven.............no?

Ahh I agree, but what of those who initally came here to swing, lost interest or changed their minds but all their online friends are here, they like the open-mindedness of the people and chatter and don't really go anywhere else?
Some here have been members for almost 6 years, from the sites inception but the scene/site/community has changed and they no longer actively swing? Should they leave just to make the current swingers happy?
We do occasionally swing but we're here primarily because the fun, banter, flirtiness, openness, acceptance etc just isn't there on other sites. We stay for the social side, if we swing then it's a bonus of friendship.
agreed Cally....so many times Ive wanted to cancel our membership but dont want to because of the friends Ive made....
im torn between cancelling and paying just to post in the forums to keep intouch with the many wonderful people i have come to know, love and/or regard as friends.
thank god i dont have to make this decision til may....will bury my head in the sand about it till then!! biggrin
I honestly think without any disrespect to anyone that there are many paths for many people - some play some cant or find they won't etc - so what I say - this is the human condition.
We really need to respect each other, and subscription entitles that person to chat without meeting - titilation is part of this and if some people don't find others appealing enough or dont feel they can take the plunge then so be it.
Who are we to judge lest we ourselves are judged by others.......think about it.
Quote by kentswingers777
May I suggest anyone who is in any doubt as to what a swinger is, then either Google the word or use a dictionary.
To swing means to have sex with others..........period. If you have no intention of swinging, then how can you be labelled a swinger?
People who just want to chat could chat on any network site but.....those who want to swing need to go on a swingers site, like this one.
The meaning of the word swinger is there for all to see, and this site does say Swinging Heaven.............no?

So what does sex mean? And to have sex?
Not being flippant but the cuckolds of the site would have to go then, and the couples where only the fem/male plays will have to go and those that have taken a back seat for a while will have to pack thier bags.
Any other members people want to remove?
Tumbleweed will be blowing through SH............but there is a silver lining......the genuine swingers will be able to talk to the verified timewasters lol `
Dave_Notts