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I'm a teacher - some might see that as a bit of a conflict, when I'm supposed to teach children about morals and sex within a secure loving relationship.
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Sex God
Quote by flower411
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
Its not always a career that stops people showing faces....
Family and friends perhaps.....
Some of the people here arent as brazen as the others...
Sex God
we are both physios, pretty sure the professional body wouldn't be overly chuffed with our faces on here!!
err, not that it really stops us!!
err, not that it really stops us!!
Sex God
Quote by flower411
Coo, if any of my family or friends were to mention seeing me on here in a derogatory way I`d be sure to go for the throat as to why they were here in the first place
sorry but I'm confused...........if you feel this way............surely you can understand why people don't want to show their faces, ie to stop being recognised.....
Sex God
Quote by flower411
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
Its not always a career that stops people showing faces....
Family and friends perhaps.....
Some of the people here arent as brazen as the others...
Coo, if any of my family or friends were to mention seeing me on here in a derogatory way I`d be sure to go for the throat as to why they were here in the first place
They may not be here but someone they know could well be...
Sex God
Quote by flower411
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
How naive! This is Great Britain, where there is still a tremendous uptightness about sex in some quarters. Don't you ever read the tabloids?
Employers in both private and public sectors scrutinise their employees' lifestyles as never before, and are perfectly happy to fire people whose lifestyle is thought to be "unsuited" to the company's image.
Anyone who works with children is liable to be deemed unsafe if they are known to indulge in a swinging lifestyle.
Anyone involved in a custody battle for their kid/s is liable to have any knowledge that they are swingers used against them.
People exposed as swingers have been hounded and even driven to suicide after being exposed in tabloid articles by journalists who deem their activities to be inappropriate to their public role or job.
Quote by flower411
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
Nobody said it was Flower, but as Frecklebird rightly said, can you imagine the headlines.."local teacher snapped on swinging website".. the embarassment for the teacher and her pupils. My line of work involves police clearance and to be honest it's my choice that I don't want to be recognised. Swinging for us is fun, it's personal, it's about our sex lives and I don't discuss this with outside people so why would I want them to see my profile and pics?
Do your family members know you swing Flower? If they don't why haven't you told them? As you said it's nothing to be embarassed about.
It's all down to a matter of personal choice
Sex God
Quote by duncanlondon
This is always a debatable point. I am fairly sure that nearly everyone in the world of 'adult' activities, has at least one person who they are unwilling to expose their lifestyle to.
Absolutely.
Mr FB has no problem with people he works with, knowing he's a swinger. Makes no difference to his job and we aren't ashamed of what we do.
The people at work know I swing ... although my boss doesn't he does know that Morb and I are very open in our relationship.
I don't see admitting it as being brazen! Although I understnad the points "why" in Mike's post, if eveyone was honest and open and admitted it .. it would take the sleaziness out of it, and then it becomes more mainstream.
I will admit that neither set of our parents know ... one set are religious and therefore complicated, the other set tbh probably wouldn't care less as long as we were discreet around our children. We just don't see the need to admit it yet .... over the dinner table "oh btw ...." just doesn't work for us.
The reason I came clean at work was to dispel rumours and stupidity!
Cx
I don't see admitting it as being brazen! Although I understnad the points "why" in Mike's post, if eveyone was honest and open and admitted it .. it would take the sleaziness out of it, and then it becomes more mainstream.
I will admit that neither set of our parents know ... one set are religious and therefore complicated, the other set tbh probably wouldn't care less as long as we were discreet around our children. We just don't see the need to admit it yet .... over the dinner table "oh btw ...." just doesn't work for us.
The reason I came clean at work was to dispel rumours and stupidity!
Cx
Sex God
Quote by flower411
I`m naive because I asked a question :shock:
I didn`t know about all these things and i bow to your superior knowledge .
I am lucky in that I would not work for a company that was known to treat there workers in this way and I honestly didn`t know about the suicides brought on by tabloid articles .
I thought that people who worked with children had to pass a police check to make sure they had no convictions, I was not aware of the fact that swinging sites were checked ..
Now I know all these things I will be removing face pics and will be very careful on cam in future .
You know your other post in a thread, where you said something about keeping quiet unless you have something positive to say? Sarcasm doesn't always come across positively, either.
And yes, I know I am often sarcastic.
Sex God
Quote by flower411
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
Quote by flower411
Coo, if any of my family or friends were to mention seeing me on here in a derogatory way I`d be sure to go for the throat as to why they were here in the first place
sorry but these two quotes just don't seem to corrilate for me. I really don't get why you can't understand people not wanting the general public to know that they are on a swingers site............of course people want it to be private, would you like you boss knowing??? or your colllegues.......whilst people are more open minded now I find it hard to believe that you would admit this too everyone you know including friends, family and colleges, but thewre again I may me wropng........
Sex God
I have lots of friend who are not exactly open minded. There is one girl who know about the life cycle i choose to lead and she believes what i do.I'm nearly 19, i dnt want to spent my young adult hood in a relationship that will restrict me from having a good time. I'm so glad i have a girlfriend that supports me, neither of us believe were old enough for monagmy yet. As for the rest of the world i dont care what they think of me. Its my life not thiers. I can howver understand why FB wouldnt want to be recognised on this website, she does an important job but unfortaunatley most parents woudlnt want thier childs teacher to live a *normal life*
As to why people dont want to post pictures showing their faces its because swinging is still not viewed as socially acceptable. I would have thought that was obvious, and before anyone gets on their high horse, I know its not illegal and that we supposedly live in a free, democratic , liberal society (believe that and you will believe anything) but lets be honest the only people who spout on about free, democracy and liberal in the same sentence are politicians; usually just before they screw us and take away a bit more of our freedom.
The other side of the coin of course is the fact that if anyone you know finds out that you are a member of this site then they must have been on here looking so are they considering it too?
At the end of the day its a personal choice and you can still post face picutres on private gallery and send invite to view private gallery to people who want to see your face.
The other side of the coin of course is the fact that if anyone you know finds out that you are a member of this site then they must have been on here looking so are they considering it too?
At the end of the day its a personal choice and you can still post face picutres on private gallery and send invite to view private gallery to people who want to see your face.
I've got a young child at a Catholic school and a devout Catholic mother. I'm not bringing religion into this thread flippantly.
It would break my mother's heart to find out from a third party that I was involved in anything as immoral as swinging.
My daughter would no doubt be (indirectly) persecuted at school - IF we were allowed to stay at the school and I have no desire to see my face and my sexual activities detailed in the tabloids.
It's Britain. We shouldn't even be having sex let alone talking about it (unless it's in a Carry On manner)or seeking it with people other than our life partners.
No matter what WE as the swinging community think of it, the rest of the world does not agree. that's the way it is.
I conform to society's ideals because i like a quiet life and don't want to hurt the people i love most.
It would break my mother's heart to find out from a third party that I was involved in anything as immoral as swinging.
My daughter would no doubt be (indirectly) persecuted at school - IF we were allowed to stay at the school and I have no desire to see my face and my sexual activities detailed in the tabloids.
It's Britain. We shouldn't even be having sex let alone talking about it (unless it's in a Carry On manner)or seeking it with people other than our life partners.
No matter what WE as the swinging community think of it, the rest of the world does not agree. that's the way it is.
I conform to society's ideals because i like a quiet life and don't want to hurt the people i love most.
Quote by MikeNorth
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
Anyone who works with children is liable to be deemed unsafe if they are known to indulge in a swinging lifestyle.
Anyone involved in a custody battle for their kid/s is liable to have any knowledge that they are swingers used against them.
Are you trying to say that society feels that anyone with a slightly outside the box sex life is a ?
I have an ex gf who works in an all girls school. Shes lives in fear of being outed because she will loose her job or at least stop being trusted in 1-1 situations with the girls.
I say, come on punk, make my day and i will see you in court, cos no one ever has proved that having a gay mind makes you a kiddy fiddler.
Quote by jaymar
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
Nobody said it was Flower, but as Frecklebird rightly said, can you imagine the headlines.."local teacher snapped on swinging website".. the embarassment for the teacher and her pupils. My line of work involves police clearance and to be honest it's my choice that I don't want to be recognised. Swinging for us is fun, it's personal, it's about our sex lives and I don't discuss this with outside people so why would I want them to see my profile and pics?
Do your family members know you swing Flower? If they don't why haven't you told them? As you said it's nothing to be embarassed about.
It's all down to a matter of personal choice
Oh yeah, this reminds me.
Ive got an enhanced CRB disclosure to enable me to work with young and vulnerable people.
Ive also got a shotgun licence, which doesnt get granted these days without a lot of phychological checks being done, specially if you have had any counselling or reason to see your GP for depression, which by the way, im not ashamed to admit ive had.
So the system have faith in me, despite knowing im gay, so wheres the problem? Surely, whatever your kinks are or whatever floats your boat, it doesnt make you a pervert or risk to other people? And sex between consenting adults is nothing to be ashamed of surely? Just cos they might happen to be someone elses wife/hubby shouldnt make any difference as long as its consenting?
I thought the thing that made swinging diffferent to adultery was the fact there is honesty and consent?
Sadly after all the posts ive read, the one lating impression im being left with here has nothing to do with the subject.
I think its a pity that personalities creep into debate. Some of you arnt debating or adding your two penn'th to this without an edge of arumentitive aggression.
I post here cos its topical and interesting and I love debating, i hate the undertone.. We dont all choose our words wisely at times and things get misconstrued, but please dont let it degenerate into a slanging match
Quote by Geminifemale
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
Anyone who works with children is liable to be deemed unsafe if they are known to indulge in a swinging lifestyle.
Anyone involved in a custody battle for their kid/s is liable to have any knowledge that they are swingers used against them.
Are you trying to say that society feels that anyone with a slightly outside the box sex life is a ?
I have an ex gf who works in an all girls school. Shes lives in fear of being outed because she will loose her job or at least stop being trusted in 1-1 situations with the girls.
I say, come on punk, make my day and i will see you in court, cos no one ever has proved that having a gay mind makes you a kiddy fiddler.
I`m afraid that this is the case.I have to work at schools all over my county (playing field maintainance) and yes, I`ve been police checked. As I see it, the danger is some really savvy kid finding my details on a site like this an blabbing to the "right person" for the hell of it. Having said that, I openly display my user name on a small numberplate on my vehicle, as yet, without problems.
Quote by Geminifemale
We seem to hear all the time that people are unable to show pics or to show their faces on cam because they have particular jobs .
Swinging is not illegal.
Why are people so ashamed of enjoying sex ?
Nobody said it was Flower, but as Frecklebird rightly said, can you imagine the headlines.."local teacher snapped on swinging website".. the embarassment for the teacher and her pupils. My line of work involves police clearance and to be honest it's my choice that I don't want to be recognised. Swinging for us is fun, it's personal, it's about our sex lives and I don't discuss this with outside people so why would I want them to see my profile and pics?
Do your family members know you swing Flower? If they don't why haven't you told them? As you said it's nothing to be embarassed about.
It's all down to a matter of personal choice
Oh yeah, this reminds me.
Ive got an enhanced CRB disclosure to enable me to work with young and vulnerable people.
Ive also got a shotgun licence, which doesnt get granted these days without a lot of phychological checks being done, specially if you have had any counselling or reason to see your GP for depression, which by the way, im not ashamed to admit ive had.
Just because you have a CRB disclosure and a shotgun licence doesn't make you any different to anyone else. My point above was (and it remains) it's a matter of choice. People who work in schools, with elderly people (yes that's right it's not just about children), will NOT ALWAYS be patted on the back for swinging, so to protect ourselves WE CHOOSE not to tell anyone or show our faces.
So the system have faith in me, despite knowing im gay, so wheres the problem? Surely, whatever your kinks are or whatever floats your boat, it doesnt make you a pervert or risk to other people? And sex between consenting adults is nothing to be ashamed of surely? Just cos they might happen to be someone elses wife/hubby shouldnt make any difference as long as its consenting?
You still don't have to show your face to thousands of people, a matter of autonomy!!!!!!!!
Sadly after all the posts ive read, the one lating impression im being left with here has nothing to do with the subject.every reply on this thread has everything to do with this subject... can you show me anywhere that says otherwise?
I think its a pity that personalities creep into debate. Some of you arnt debating or adding your two penn'th to this without an edge of arumentitive aggression.
I post here cos its topical and interesting and I love debating, i hate the undertone.. We dont all choose our words wisely at times and things get misconstrued, but please dont let it degenerate into a slanging match
You Gem, are the world's worst for argumentative aggression, now noone is turning anything into slanging matches - unless you are trying to, we are simply discussing matters. What is starting to annoy me is that certain members pose questions but don't like the answers they are receiving!.. How right you are Gemini, it is a debateable forum, and to be mature you need to take criticsm as well as give it out.
All your post here is about you Gem. It is great that you are able to be so free with your sexuality. NO ONE is knocking that, so I am therefore bewildered as to why you are knocking us for wanting privacy. We are all born with choice, our choice as a couple is to remain private UNTIL we get to know a couple on MSN cam then we quite openly chat person to person. A couple we swing with are Teachers and they are as likeminded as us as I am sure hundreds others are. You simply cannot go lording over us for our choices.
As for personalities, you will always get mountains of different personalities in places like this, that's what makes it tick, if we were all the same, it would make it a boring place to be. :shock:
And for the record, I wasn't having a dig at Flower, I love their posts, I was posing a question in reply to their question, is that ok?
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I am also a teacher altho retired now, but I could always go back to do supply work. I have no problems about showing my face on here or going on cam as what we do is not illegal even tho it would make a lovely Sun headline. What I do draw the line at though is dogging or any form of al fresco sex because that IS illegal now in this country and an arrest for this would probably lead to loss of a job or withdrawal of my teaching certificate.
I can understand though why people would want to stay anonymous on the site ... although if friends or family found their details here then it would be a catch 22 situation .. why were they here in the first place?
I can understand though why people would want to stay anonymous on the site ... although if friends or family found their details here then it would be a catch 22 situation .. why were they here in the first place?
My career that stops me being "out?".
Im a full time Mum. As such, and being a realist,the details of my/our sex lives are kept private. I'm sure that if I was to tell my almost 17 y.o, her reaction would be "yeah, thought as much. Coffee?"
However, school kids can be exceedingly cruel and will pick on any difference they see. Why give them another opportunity?
All my trusted friends know, and I'm frequently in a couple of social environments completely removed from my day to day home life, and in these environments everyone knows.
Anyhow, It's somehow less fun if it's not at least a little clandestine!
Im a full time Mum. As such, and being a realist,the details of my/our sex lives are kept private. I'm sure that if I was to tell my almost 17 y.o, her reaction would be "yeah, thought as much. Coffee?"
However, school kids can be exceedingly cruel and will pick on any difference they see. Why give them another opportunity?
All my trusted friends know, and I'm frequently in a couple of social environments completely removed from my day to day home life, and in these environments everyone knows.
Anyhow, It's somehow less fun if it's not at least a little clandestine!
Quote by buckingfabe
I am also a teacher altho retired now, but I could always go back to do supply work. I have no problems about showing my face on here or going on cam as what we do is not illegal even tho it would make a lovely Sun headline.
It might not be illegal but it is certainly not condoned by a very large part of society.
Imagine the potential problems that a school would have were a teacher to be outed as a swinger. Many parents would ask for that teacher to be removed from a position of influence over their children since they would have moral objections to swinging and see it as unacceptable behaviour.
If the head and governing body refused to dismiss the teacher, then many parents would vote with their feet and remove their children to another school. Falling rolls would force the governing body to remove the source of the problem. An industrial tribunal to attempt redress from that decision would not enhance that teacher's prospects of a job elsewhere and remaining at the school would put the teacher in an untenable situation regarding day to day teaching and contact with parents.
The problems of bringing a profession into disrepute are probably not confined to teaching alone. While our society holds the views that swinging is, if not illegal then certainly immoral, a swinger in a job that involves access to children or vulnerable adults is better to remain anonymous unless they are prepared to risk potentially life-changing consequences.
Sex God
Well said, northwest. :thumbup:
Sex God
Quote by flower411
And , of course all the kids think she is brilliant:roll:
Especially the older boys?
Have to agree though, it sounds like inappropriate clothing for a teacher in school. Have you approached the head about it? I would!
Its usually acceptable to have freedom with dressing once you have settled into a job. But at the job interview we all dress smart and respectable.
Teenagers also place a high value on style. Which is why they choose a similar range of clothing to conform with each other.
I can remember in the days of skinheads seeing guys getting thumped for turning up wearing the wrong colour Ben Sherman shirt etc.
Teenagers also place a high value on style. Which is why they choose a similar range of clothing to conform with each other.
I can remember in the days of skinheads seeing guys getting thumped for turning up wearing the wrong colour Ben Sherman shirt etc.
I'm a nurse but I don't think it's my career that dictates my discretion, more the reaction of people to my 'lifestyle'.
I think it's easy to forget that a lot of people aren't as open minded as we are as far as sexual habits and preferences go so I choose discretion rather than people getting the wrong impression. There is still a general consensus that swinging is debauched, immoral and that we must all be slappers.
It's easier to say owt than feel I have justify my way of life to people who are too narrow minded to take their blinkers off
I think it's easy to forget that a lot of people aren't as open minded as we are as far as sexual habits and preferences go so I choose discretion rather than people getting the wrong impression. There is still a general consensus that swinging is debauched, immoral and that we must all be slappers.
It's easier to say owt than feel I have justify my way of life to people who are too narrow minded to take their blinkers off
Anyway getting back to the debate topic.
Is there a career or job where you can actually find a section on the application form, where they ask you if you have advanced sexual practices?
So in that respect, all careers stop you from admitting many things about yourself. Employers aren't really that interested, colleagues may just find it amusing.
Is there a career or job where you can actually find a section on the application form, where they ask you if you have advanced sexual practices?
So in that respect, all careers stop you from admitting many things about yourself. Employers aren't really that interested, colleagues may just find it amusing.
