We have all read or heard about this story. Is this woman a racist, or somebody who has been made a scapegoat?
I think she was foolish, but I feel what happened was not a sackable offence from what I have read.
If she is sacked then so should Jonathan Woss be.
I can certainly understand why the word is found in some circles to be offensive, but this artical has a lot in it, that I feel is bang on the money.
Do others feel she deserved what she got or.....has the ability to say anything, in no matter what context, now been outlawed, by a politically correct directive?
Just for the record I feel the word " gollywog " is not offensive if said about the doll or the jam but.....it is if aimed at a black person, in a hateful manner. Most that I have spoken to including black people have said it is not racist, but could understand why some black people would find it to be....I agreed.
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Carol Thatcher
I know this could be a contensious topic but....I am a bit undecided as to whether she was being deliberatly racist, or just said in no other way, other than to describe what she thought.
The trouble is in todays society, most people would know that by saying that, would cause problems. There are some things we just cannot say today, and most of them I agree with. It is just some things I think have gone too far.
I am just undecided if this is one of those.
The trouble is in todays society, most people would know that by saying that, would cause problems. There are some things we just cannot say today, and most of them I agree with. It is just some things I think have gone too far.
I am just undecided if this is one of those.
The BBC are just running scared of everything, every comment made, on screen or off!
She is old school, from a different world compared to most of us.
Did she mean to abuse folk with black skin in a nasty disgusting way?
I think not!
I am not agreeing with her termonology, she made a silly mistake, in the over sensitive world we live in today, which is not acceptable.
Carol Thatcher is a unique quirky lady, and I for one will miss her from The One Show.
Lucys post.
She is old school, from a different world compared to most of us.
Did she mean to abuse folk with black skin in a nasty disgusting way?
I think not!
I am not agreeing with her termonology, she made a silly mistake, in the over sensitive world we live in today, which is not acceptable.
Carol Thatcher is a unique quirky lady, and I for one will miss her from The One Show.
Lucys post.
I'm not sure of my true opinion of Wossy and Thatcher.
Thatcher was offensive and unrepentant, a complaint was made by someone involved in the conversation.
Wossy was just idiotic and whilst a handful of complaints were received initially, Wossy had already apologised and Andrew Sachs had accepted. (The kickoff really began when someone started shit-stirring).
Thatcher was offensive and unrepentant, a complaint was made by someone involved in the conversation.
Wossy was just idiotic and whilst a handful of complaints were received initially, Wossy had already apologised and Andrew Sachs had accepted. (The kickoff really began when someone started shit-stirring).
Sex God
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I'm not sure of my true opinion of Wossy and Thatcher.
Thatcher was offensive and unrepentant, a complaint was made by someone involved in the conversation.
Wossy was just idiotic and whilst a handful of complaints were received initially, Wossy had already apologised and Andrew Sachs had accepted. (The kickoff really began when someone started shit-stirring).
Well it has got everyone interested in tennis again, if only to work out who she was actually talking about.. (my money is on the french guy!)
the ross stuff, I am bored of now... it was only 2 people who complained until the daily mail got there mits on it.... he's done his time, his apology was accepted, move on
I dunno what the lady intended or even what was said.
I don't know if she habitually litters her conversation with such terms.
If a work colleague of mine made the alleged statement in front of me Id have a quiet word with them. Solely because I find such statements offensive and I wouldn't want them to think I agreed with their behaviour. If a colleague habitually littered their conversation with such comments Id have to report it eventually I suppose.
We simply dont know the facts of what happened in this instance or how the woman in question behaves day to day.
Of course the BBC is a public body and is expected to uphold the highest standards. Had they not made their decision public I assume the furore would be about cover ups.
In a society riven by hate and prejudice those with access to the media have a responsibility to ensure that they do nothing to excite or inflame such emotions.
I assume the BBC has some sort of code designed to encourage equality and diversity and avoid offence. I assume this woman's comments at her place of work breached that code. If I made the statement she allegedly made at my place of work I would expect a bollocking at the least.
I'm quite happy to do this woman's job at the BBC for a mere fifty grand a year and I will happily avoid comments that potentially cause offence to any minority be it in private or on air.
Moving on, why do I think such comments are unacceptable. In essence it is not necessary to make personal comments about anybody. The sole reasons for making such comments are either a child like attempt at humour, or to reinforce "One of Them" attitudes. You just have to be careful that its obvious your are doing the former and not the latter. "If in doubt keep yer gob shut" as my mother used to say.
I don't know if she habitually litters her conversation with such terms.
If a work colleague of mine made the alleged statement in front of me Id have a quiet word with them. Solely because I find such statements offensive and I wouldn't want them to think I agreed with their behaviour. If a colleague habitually littered their conversation with such comments Id have to report it eventually I suppose.
We simply dont know the facts of what happened in this instance or how the woman in question behaves day to day.
Of course the BBC is a public body and is expected to uphold the highest standards. Had they not made their decision public I assume the furore would be about cover ups.
In a society riven by hate and prejudice those with access to the media have a responsibility to ensure that they do nothing to excite or inflame such emotions.
I assume the BBC has some sort of code designed to encourage equality and diversity and avoid offence. I assume this woman's comments at her place of work breached that code. If I made the statement she allegedly made at my place of work I would expect a bollocking at the least.
I'm quite happy to do this woman's job at the BBC for a mere fifty grand a year and I will happily avoid comments that potentially cause offence to any minority be it in private or on air.
Moving on, why do I think such comments are unacceptable. In essence it is not necessary to make personal comments about anybody. The sole reasons for making such comments are either a child like attempt at humour, or to reinforce "One of Them" attitudes. You just have to be careful that its obvious your are doing the former and not the latter. "If in doubt keep yer gob shut" as my mother used to say.
Master of Sex
Being of afro-carribean descent, I really do fimd this Carol Thachter 'GOLLIWOG' issue (have i used an offencsive word),
All blown out of my mind the word Golliwog is discribeing a childs toy for yesta years and if the Robinson jams logo..
and what a sad day it it was,when they had to stop using it.
all i can say is ,this is the PC brigade getting on there high horses,looking for something to do,as i think they was getting bored . (Forgive the spelling mistakes).
All blown out of my mind the word Golliwog is discribeing a childs toy for yesta years and if the Robinson jams logo..
and what a sad day it it was,when they had to stop using it.
all i can say is ,this is the PC brigade getting on there high horses,looking for something to do,as i think they was getting bored . (Forgive the spelling mistakes).
Sex God
Fabio, it was Tsonga she was referring to. They said that on the BBC.
Kent, have you been away on hols or summat? Just this has been news for a few days now and I was wondering when you'd post about it.
Kent, have you been away on hols or summat? Just this has been news for a few days now and I was wondering when you'd post about it.
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Fabio, it was Tsonga she was referring to. They said that on the BBC.
Kent, have you been away on hols or summat? Just this has been news for a few days now and I was wondering when you'd post about it.
Why? Have you missed me?
I know it has been going for a few days, but thought I would wait until some more of the " facts " came out.
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Being of afro-carribean descent, I really do fimd this Carol Thachter 'GOLLIWOG' issue (have i used an offencsive word),
All blown out of my mind the word Golliwog is discribeing a childs toy for yesta years and if the Robinson jams logo..
and what a sad day it it was,when they had to stop using i can say is ,this is the PC brigade getting on there high horses,looking for something to do,as i think they was getting bored . (Forgive the spelling mistakes).
Villans I admire your honesty. All the black guys I know have said exactly the same thing.
It always always seems to be white liberals, who stir these kind of things up,into much more than it is.
They make a situation far worse. Thanks for your comments.
Personally, I'd sack the shit stirring liberal gob-shites who dare to breathe the same air as normal human beings.. they should have been strangled at birth!
We have a set of "gollyw*gs" collected by V as a child. Are we likely to be arrested if we put them up for sale on eb*y?
The BBC have lost the plot seriously. They should have sacked Gaunty and kept Carol :smoke:
We have a set of "gollyw*gs" collected by V as a child. Are we likely to be arrested if we put them up for sale on eb*y?
The BBC have lost the plot seriously. They should have sacked Gaunty and kept Carol :smoke:
