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Ice I think your right...
You think my right what?
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You think my right what?
At primary school I was taught that 'and' should never come after a comma. At college I was taught that a comma was unacceptable before an 'and' when listing:
I bought apples, pears and bananas.
but was acceptable in other instances. I'm struggling to think of an example of the latter. In fact it may well have been the other way around!
A semi-colon indicates a longer pause, but I`ve always felt that is subjective! It can also be used to indicate a break between a sentance which makes sense on it`s own, and a one which doesn't? I can never remember whether to use a capital letter after a semi-colon or colon.
A colon can be used to precede a list:
Apples
Pears
Bananas
I don`t have the foggiest as to where else it's used! :lol2:
Whilst I realise it's unnecessary to learn all of this to post on the board. I am finding the finer points valuable. :P
Venusxxx
I bought apples, pears and bananas.
but was acceptable in other instances. I'm struggling to think of an example of the latter. In fact it may well have been the other way around!
A semi-colon indicates a longer pause, but I`ve always felt that is subjective! It can also be used to indicate a break between a sentance which makes sense on it`s own, and a one which doesn't? I can never remember whether to use a capital letter after a semi-colon or colon.
A colon can be used to precede a list:
Apples
Pears
Bananas
I don`t have the foggiest as to where else it's used! :lol2:
Whilst I realise it's unnecessary to learn all of this to post on the board. I am finding the finer points valuable. :P
Venusxxx
Quote by VenusnMars
At primary school I was taught that 'and' should never come after a comma. At college I was taught that a comma was unacceptable before an 'and' when listing:
I bought apples, pears and bananas.
but was acceptable in other instances. I'm struggling to think of an example of the latter.
Venusxxx
My name is Venus, and I am a post whore
There it is! :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Quote by marmalaid
but... Start of a sentance with "but"? It's not capitalised!
... a sentance ... that would be a sentence then
Venusxxx
Well duh, I pointed out that I was unsure of the capitalisation after colons. Have also stated that I'm unsure whether starting a sentence (yes, I took it on board) with 'but' or 'and' is acceptable.
Since the structure seems correct, which is it? Do I capitalise the 'but' since it comes after a colon, or not, since the word is 'but' and possibly shouldn't be used to start a sentence?
Venusxxx
Quote by Ice Pie
Very good, Venus. Most helpful ;)
Could you tell us where the apostrophe key is? The real one. To the right of the semi-colon and colon.
Oh, and could you also explain the use of the colon, semicolon, hash, dash and slash, no more than I've tried to already.
and also the difference between single quotes and double quotes? The double quote is to indicate speech, the single er, doesn't. :P
Also, when is the lower case i on its own acceptable? Don't know
And should numbers be written as words or figures? Since both are available and valid, I don't think it matters. I communicate numbers in words on formal documents.
Why is it frowned upon to boldly split an infinitive? Because it's where no man has gone before.
And why is a preposition something you shouldn't end a sentence on? ;) Because it's designed to link one word with another. 'Pre' as in before, and 'postion' as in where the object is, eg: the ball is under the sofa.
Thanking you in advance for the benefit of your wisdom. :twisted:
Ice (bastard) xxx
Now bastard. Are you going to explain what I cannot? In layman's terms please, so it is of actual use to some of us?
Venusxxx<---- who never claimed to be wise
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
When merging words, eg. I am= I'm, it is= it's, do not= don't replace the missing letter with an apostrophe.
Venusxxx
Well do you want us to use the flucking apostrophe or not woman??
Don't you just love the way Venus finishes all her posts with kisses - bit like a dog licking yer hand after it's just ripped yer throat out!
Quote by westerross
Don't you just love the way Venus finishes all her posts with kisses - bit like a dog licking yer hand after it's just ripped yer throat out!
Do you want to use apostrophes Tune? If so the conflicting advice is there if you want to use it! :lol2:
Personally I`d be satisfied if people just took the advice offered in the first post, oh, and learned the difference beween 'there, they're and their', 'too, two and to', and, 'are and our'.
Then I wouldn't graze my eyeballs when tripping over people's posts. It's all optional, depending on how much you want to learn. I like to learn a lot! :mrgreen:
This quote sums it up for me:
Quote by Silk and Big G
Punctuation is often the victim of great genius !!
For example it should have read E,= m-c; 2
See past the spaces and enjoy the writing :-)
Venusxxx
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
Question, is inserting a space between the end of a sentence and a question or exclamation mark an old-school thing? I see quite a few members here who do so.
Venusxxx
No, there shouldn't be a space; some think it looks better though. I feel as if I need to put a space there, in the same way as I would between two words. If you do a punctuation check, it tells you off for putting a space in though
Then again, a punctuation check tells you to put all sorts of commas in. I once did a (pc) check on a piece of work then handed it in and a lecturer circled every single comma 
When I challenged him about it, he said 'it's not trendy to use commas'. Pillock. I appealed and got my assignment upgraded
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
Question, is inserting a space between the end of a sentence and a question or exclamation mark an old-school thing? I see quite a few members here who do so.
Venusxxx
God, you're a sucker for punishment
Now do we mean an 'old' school thing or an old 'school' thing? (Notice - no space so therefore no 'old-school' in me!!) What's in a space? .......... Quote by westerross
Question, is inserting a space between the end of a sentence and a question or exclamation mark an old-school thing? I see quite a few members here who do so.
Venusxxx
God, you're a sucker for punishment
Now do we mean an 'old' school thing or an old 'school' thing? (Notice - no space so therefore no 'old-school' in me!!) What's in a space? .......... Tune. Fuck off. You are making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Surely you are not so desperate to wind me up that you are completely losing your abilty to make at least partial sense?
/walks off shaking head in complete dismay........
Venusxxx
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
Question, is inserting a space between the end of a sentence and a question or exclamation mark an old-school thing? I see quite a few members here who do so.
Venusxxx
God, you're a sucker for punishment
Now do we mean an 'old' school thing or an old 'school' thing? (Notice - no space so therefore no 'old-school' in me!!) What's in a space? .......... Tune. Fuck off. You are making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Surely you are not so desperate to wind me up that you are completely losing your abilty to make at least partial sense?
/walks off shaking head in complete dismay........
Venusxxx
Oh dear I see I'll have to explain!! The reference to 'old-school' in your previous post was not clear - probably due to a lack or excess of punctuation - but who gives a fuck! The expression 'old-school' is usually taken to mean some sort of privileged establishment as in 'old-school tie'. How the use of a space between the end of a sentence and a ? mark can be relevant to the exclusivity of the school beats me 
- so I thought it might be a reference to the fact that the perpetrators of such practices were just flucking old and therefore went to old schools regardless of how exclusive they were.I speak as very old-old-school boy
See my problem!! Sex God
Quote by LadyFeeBee
Tune
The boys are now on their way over to your gaff!!!!!!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO if I really upset someone, will they come to mine too?
:twisted: :twisted:
Tune you lucky git !
Sex God
Quote by freckledbird
Tune
The boys are now on their way over to your gaff!!!!!!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO if I really upset someone, will they come to mine too?
:twisted: :twisted:
Tune you lucky git !
Errmmm - speak fer yourself - but I think the one in the front is a bit of a woman - so my night may be made after all!!
Quote by westerross
so I thought it might be a reference to the fact that the perpetrators of such practices were just flucking old and therefore went to old schools regardless of how exclusive they were.
Yep. That's the one. I was simply asking if it was an old-fashioned teaching. Jeeze.
See my problem!!
Should rhetorical questions have question-marks or not?
I'm simply curious. :mrgreen:
(Yaaaay. Get a load of me using the correct apostrophe despite being half-cut. Bloody genius me)
Venusxxx
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
Should rhetorical questions have question-marks or not?
Nup. Are you sure there should be a dash between question and mark there?
Soon as the old fart starts wanting to get thing precisely correct you lose yer patience - huh! - typical!
Sex God
TCH !?,.!
Sex God
I guess this is the right thread to ask a question about posting styles that deliberately misuse punctuation, spelling and grammer, such as mine.
A lot of the time I try to write a post as if I were actually having a conversation and as such, I will very often put something like..........to represent the pause that I would use if I were talking to people face to face, or a ....eerrmm....yes ...well....o.k. then, type of thing, again as an indication of the thinking time that I would give myself in conversation. Likewise I will use words like 'innit' or 'watcha' for a similar reason, this is how I talk.
Now when I see this type of deliberate misuse of puctuation, spelling, I take it as being conversational and not as poor punctuation in it's true sense.
Am I alone in this misuse and my interprutation of it? do other members recognise it as a conversational way of writing that is slightly different from that which we were taught, but has and is, evolving through forums such as this?
I am aware that there are ways of writing, useing correct grammer and punctuation in the conversational sense already in existence, but I'm not sure if this is adequate in conveying what I am trying to do which is talk to you face to face without being able to.
does this make any ......errrm....sense? or am I communicating in a way that despite my attempts to be conversational is, simply viewed by the majority as being poor use of grammer, punctuation and spelling?
A lot of the time I try to write a post as if I were actually having a conversation and as such, I will very often put something like..........to represent the pause that I would use if I were talking to people face to face, or a ....eerrmm....yes ...well....o.k. then, type of thing, again as an indication of the thinking time that I would give myself in conversation. Likewise I will use words like 'innit' or 'watcha' for a similar reason, this is how I talk.
Now when I see this type of deliberate misuse of puctuation, spelling, I take it as being conversational and not as poor punctuation in it's true sense.
Am I alone in this misuse and my interprutation of it? do other members recognise it as a conversational way of writing that is slightly different from that which we were taught, but has and is, evolving through forums such as this?
I am aware that there are ways of writing, useing correct grammer and punctuation in the conversational sense already in existence, but I'm not sure if this is adequate in conveying what I am trying to do which is talk to you face to face without being able to.
does this make any ......errrm....sense? or am I communicating in a way that despite my attempts to be conversational is, simply viewed by the majority as being poor use of grammer, punctuation and spelling?
No, you are not alone Davej, I do it too, and I think it's a wonderful way to communicate on here. It's one of the reasons I love Neilinleeds' posts so much, they give a wonderful idea of the person behind the keyboard.
That still doesn't stop me from wanting to rip the Caps Lock key out and beat him over the head with it though!
I sincerely hope that people don't see this thread as citing standards which everyone here expects them to meet. The first couple of posts maybe, but not the rest of the discussion. I'd just like to polish up on my English, I don't promise to use it here!
Venusxxx
That still doesn't stop me from wanting to rip the Caps Lock key out and beat him over the head with it though!
I sincerely hope that people don't see this thread as citing standards which everyone here expects them to meet. The first couple of posts maybe, but not the rest of the discussion. I'd just like to polish up on my English, I don't promise to use it here!
Venusxxx
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
I sincerely hope that people don't see this thread as citing standards which everyone here expects them to meet.
Venusxxx
Absolutely not Venus, I simply got a feeling from this and in part from the other thread running, that the evolution of a more immediate, casual and perhaps more intimate form of communicating through the written word, wasn't recognised as being just that, be it for the better or for the worse.
davej......
You really need to take those tablets sweetie.... Your posts are becoming far too sensible
I tend to type the same way though, as if it was a spoken conversation and not a written one.... And I have to agree that punctuation makes a post easier to read, and having paragraphs every now and then rather than just one helps me to digest it easier
Shireen
xxx
You really need to take those tablets sweetie.... Your posts are becoming far too sensible
I tend to type the same way though, as if it was a spoken conversation and not a written one.... And I have to agree that punctuation makes a post easier to read, and having paragraphs every now and then rather than just one helps me to digest it easier
Shireen
xxx
Sex God
Quote by Shireen_Mids
davej......
You really need to take those tablets sweetie.... Your posts are becoming far too sensible
I tend to type the same way though, as if it was a spoken conversation and not a written one.... And I have to agree that punctuation makes a post easier to read, and having paragraphs every now and then rather than just one helps me to digest it easier
Shireen
xxx
I know Shireen I just can't shake em off, I think it's the cafe's own form of a transmittable disease and I've gone and caught it.
If anyone sees me post a word in an 'oooh your lovely you foxy minx' type thread or the 'word association' thread, that is actually relevant and not an attempt to kill it, then please make your way to
Sunny side house
Happy Valley
Herts
and fucking shoot me!
With regard to your digestive problems then perhaps a packet of Rennie next to the keyboard will help.
