caught by the press

13 May 2005

with all the coverage by the ,you know who paper was just wondering how you would feel if you opened the paper and there you were piccy int that paper either going in or comeing out of a swing club and what effect it would have on your life ,our selfs we would be shocked but we are not the sort to really bother us,but there must be cpls or singles who maybe with there job would have a real jolt to there lifes

13 May 2005

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
with all the coverage by the ,you know who paper was just wondering how you would feel if you opened the paper and there you were piccy int that paper either going in or comeing out of a swing club and what effect it would have on your life ,our selfs we would be shocked but we are not the sort to really bother us,but there must be cpls or singles who maybe with there job would have a real jolt to there lifes

I woudl be shocked and devastated...............................................................................................................especially as ive never been to one!!!!

13 May 2005

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
with all the coverage by the ,you know who paper was just wondering how you would feel if you opened the paper and there you were piccy int that paper either going in or comeing out of a swing club

I'd hope they got my good side, and not the one where it is obvious how many times I've had my nose broken :shock: lol

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

13 May 2005

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
with all the coverage by the ,you know who paper was just wondering how you would feel if you opened the paper and there you were piccy int that paper either going in or comeing out of a swing club and what effect it would have on your life ,our selfs we would be shocked but we are not the sort to really bother us,but there must be cpls or singles who maybe with there job would have a real jolt to there lifes

I'd sue them for either slander or libel, depending on what they printed. Means I could get my holiday at last lol

13 May 2005

wouldnt mind so long as i'm mostly dressed

13 May 2005

I'd be a tad embaressed to say the least, i think my sister would die if she knew what i got up too(she would probably be more embaressed than me to be honest) shes a bit prudish, but then you know what they say quiet ones are always the worst...shes probably having an orgy as we speak lol

Lindaxxx

13 May 2005

have met my boss at a wife swap party before, that was a moment!!!

13 May 2005

Hmmmm ticky one...... The only person I really wouldn't want to know is my Mum, anyone else, well I couldn't give a stuff, and I know He'd say the same. He'd probably be pleased as all his mates would be jealous lol

13 May 2005

This happened to a couple I met about ten years ago. The press did a real job on them and it resulted in a lot of damage.

13 May 2005

id want to ask my mum why she never told me i had a identical twin sister!!!!!
ive never been in a swinging club either
lou xxx

13 May 2005

I was in the "press" last year. Luckliy it was an alternative paper that my family would never read, and all my friends in NY knew before it came out. got a few good meets out of the whole situation.

14 May 2005

Quote by bluexxx
with all the coverage by the ,you know who paper was just wondering how you would feel if you opened the paper and there you were piccy int that paper either going in or comeing out of a swing club

I'd hope they got my good side, and not the one where it is obvious how many times I've had my nose broken :shock: lol

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:well blue take there knickers off before you start sticking your nose in to places lol

14 May 2005

:shock: :shock: :shock:
Dont care one bit anymore, (how quickly things change) rolleyes

Pretty sure the family know what we are up to by now, friends and nieghbours?? take us as you find us or leave us alone.
work........ so sack me, ............... please sack me go on, i dare ya. :twisted:

14 May 2005

Quote by mutley123456uk
have met my boss at a wife swap party before, that was a moment!!!

ah but did you get a rise out of him

14 May 2005

Would love to go with the whole family thing of "Love me, we're famiily" and with Work "Go on, sack me"... but ... Until we decide we are ready, then everyone can f*** off - when and if we do decide to appear,. then we will decide which publications we appear in.. Other than that there is a HUGE charge Â£$Â£$Â£Â£$Â£... As for slander, it is a high tight rope to walk,,,,

14 May 2005

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
with all the coverage by the ,you know who paper was just wondering how you would feel if you opened the paper and there you were piccy int that paper either going in or comeing out of a swing club and what effect it would have on your life ,our selfs we would be shocked but we are not the sort to really bother us,but there must be cpls or singles who maybe with there job would have a real jolt to there lifes

The papers wouldn't be able to print your, anyones, picture biggrin

:D :D :D :D
Some of you may have noticed that fuzzy faces is becoming the norm with any TV documentary about "dubious" practices such as "cruising" (the street car racing type, not the toilet variety, lol) this is because people have a "right to privacy" and the general publics right to privacy is a lot stronger than tho's already in the public eye.
The main exceptions to this are general public events, such as footy; walking on the side walk when a photo is of a building or event; and the such like... When something is ilegal then the newspapers/TV/etc. can use the "pubic interest" get out of jail free card, so a dog fight would not require people to agree to their image being used.
You could not sue a paper if say you had rung in sick at work and were seen in a photo of a football match, you could however sue if the paper used your photo and the article was about football violence even if it was not stated that you were involved.
Most, if not all, swingers clubs are "private member clubs" so although the swinging may be public the right to privacy is retained and even photos taken from a public standpoint out side the club would probably be concidered against the right to privacy... Mr Stan C's situation was concidered different enough for the paper to feel it would be legal to publish, not only did the "dogging" take place in a public area but as his job was in the public eye and there was already a lot of public self publicising (he was as much a "celbrity" as a footballer) then he was concidered fair game... had he played footy well and been totaly private except for when playing footy then the papers may not have got away with a public interest legal argument.
What a lot of people dont realise however is that if a person deliberatly or knowingly poses then the "photographer" has full copyright of the photo and may do with it what they wish including selling printing and publishing... the papers cannot use photos posted on sites such as this as they would be breaking copyright law... photos taken by a partner or someone else during a swing however can be reasonably concidered to be private, but if the "photographer" decided to sell/give them you could possibly sue the photographer and the paper... the issue would be "reason to believe they were private, right to privacy and a private life"
If a single or couple went to a photographer and deliberatly posed then the photographer (in the UK, not the US) can use the photos in any way they wish even without a model release form being signed, the exception would be if it would be reasonable to assume the photos were to remain private and for personal use only... so saying to the photographer "i want some nude photos of me for my BF" would count as a verbial conctract of privacy.... A wedding shoot, or some photos of the family dog would not fall into this so could be sold by the tog with no comeback, if the photo was used in a newspaper article about diviorce or dangerous dogs then the papers would be on thin ice for defamation, slander, etc...
The reason why most publications in the UK (papers, mags, mucky mags, tv, etc.) wont touch photos of people without a release is the legal side of things... "readers wifes" have a disclaim by the "model" and have to be sent in by the "tog" so copywirte is not an issue, they also know that a photo sent in by a tog with no "model release" only opens the tog up to leagal issues not the mag its self... they wont touch photos sent in by a "model" without a togs release as copyright is a far stronger legal issue.
A news paper could potentially post about this site, but there would be issues over copyright/trademark in the name, but could not post details about individuals nor post copies of what we all right as SH is the publisher and we as posters are the copyright holders... they could use parts of the text as there are "fair right" issues in the same way someone can use any of my photos to explain a point, or someone can show a copy of say andy worhols works, but fair credit and acknoledgement must be given... another murky area that most big names stear clear of unless the works are being publically displaied in a public (physical) gallery.
A paper could trawl a site like this for potential "background" info but would shy away from printing anything identifiable... or something that could be be linked back to here and then be used to find an individual post/user... if a reporter or tog does not say who they are to the person they are asking questions of then they could be in trouble, most (if not all) reporters/togs, even free lance, are registered and have to have proved themselves and already know the legal issues... thats why the stories in the papers are so vague and any discription could not really identify any one individual or couple.
Now that i've bored you all to death... to answer the question...
I'd love to be "outed" but they wont cos i'm a bloke, so wont titilate the male readers, and I would gain from the free publicity as i'd want my site mentioned if any identifiable details were used, lol.

14 May 2005

FECK ME :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

14 May 2005

Quote by Katien_n_John
FECK ME :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

LOL
Im guessin that was in response to my post, lol.
Put it this way, during my access case to my other two kids who I dont see any more, I read a heck of a lot especially on HR in respect to access... i dont want to go into details but a google of my name in news groups I think brings up the details acordning to a mate of mine, lol.
Also as I photograph as a full time hobby, and a real professional concern when my lad who lives with me has done his exams and I dont have to be on IS, I frequent a lot of sites on photograph and theres a lot of stuff on copyright, rights of privacy, etc that is discussed in great depth with links to various governemnt papers and acts (which are really boring to read, lol)

4 Jun 2007

In response to some of the above comments I would recommend this site

It has the code of conduct that newspapers are supposed to stick to. Staff at the papers usually stick to these but agencies tend to do their own thing. TV does not have a code of conduct on how they act only on what the broadcast.
Main points protecting us are
3. Privacy, a swinging club is private property
10. Should not use clandestine recording devices, includes camera phones
12 Discrimination or highlighting your sexual preferences without just cause
The site has a 24 hour phone number if you are being hastled by the media.
While you can not be photographed inside the club as soon as you step outside you are in the public and considered fair game.
If another club member photographs you in the club, they have copyright of the photograph and may sell it to the paper. Only afterwards would you be able to sue under the Human Rights act for invasion of Privacy.
If the media are about to out you you have a couple of choices.
LEGAL, Try PCC above and if rich try an injunction (if you win the paper usually pays your costs)
LIE LOW. Shut the doors and curtains and go into hiding. The media will try and track down friends, workmates and tell them about your activities as they try and get info about you.
PLEA BARGAIN. Phone the editor and explain you have kids and public life. See if they can run the story without identifying you and in return you will give an interview and be photographed in silhouette. This works with local papers as they try and keep a family image, however if the story is about you as a public figure and your activities they will name you claiming it is public interest.
GO PUBLIC. Pose for pic and read out a statement and hope that the media will be sympathetic because you cooperated.
NEVER SELL YOUR STORY, THE PAPERS THAT LOST OUT ON THE BIDDING WILL CRUCIFY YOU.

4 Jun 2007

Entering ClubF on Saturday evening - I believe that's what northeastcpl were on about - i did turn on the door-step and give the street a big grin just in case there were any photographers lurking.
After the recent press attention, we were surprised not find a load of chavs sat on the wall outside waiting to have a go at anyone who went in, but all was quite.
Tbh, I'd be horrified to see my pic in a newspaper article related to my sexual activities. I don't care what the general public think, my neighbours, other parents at school .. it's my mum and my daughter who will suffer.
If my pic does appear then I'd be over-joyd to post it in here though. My claim to fame! lol

4 Jun 2007

It was posted 2 years ago, Marya!!! lol

Mal

4 Jun 2007

This is very still relevant to us up here mal.... smile

As the only club now existing in the north east has ended up having loads of "publicity" in the local papers in the last week....thanks to a one woman crusade to have the place basically shut down.....
I am just waiting on the fallout from it but it makes people feel very nervous, and I know that people have already off visits for the time being.....

4 Jun 2007

Quote by Shybimale
In response to some of the above comments I would recommend this site

It has the code of conduct that newspapers are supposed to stick to. Staff at the papers usually stick to these but agencies tend to do their own thing. TV does not have a code of conduct on how they act only on what the broadcast.
Main points protecting us are
3. Privacy, a swinging club is private property
10. Should not use clandestine recording devices, includes camera phones
12 Discrimination or highlighting your sexual preferences without just cause
The site has a 24 hour phone number if you are being hastled by the media.
While you can not be photographed inside the club as soon as you step outside you are in the public and considered fair game.
If another club member photographs you in the club, they have copyright of the photograph and may sell it to the paper. Only afterwards would you be able to sue under the Human Rights act for invasion of Privacy.
If the media are about to out you you have a couple of choices.
LEGAL, Try PCC above and if rich try an injunction (if you win the paper usually pays your costs)
LIE LOW. Shut the doors and curtains and go into hiding. The media will try and track down friends, workmates and tell them about your activities as they try and get info about you.
PLEA BARGAIN. Phone the editor and explain you have kids and public life. See if they can run the story without identifying you and in return you will give an interview and be photographed in silhouette. This works with local papers as they try and keep a family image, however if the story is about you as a public figure and your activities they will name you claiming it is public interest.
GO PUBLIC. Pose for pic and read out a statement and hope that the media will be sympathetic because you cooperated.
NEVER SELL YOUR STORY, THE PAPERS THAT LOST OUT ON THE BIDDING WILL CRUCIFY YOU.

fuck me! you've been having a right old stroll though the archives ain't yer? thought it was just me wot did that? good on yer! ;)
n x x x ;)

4 Jun 2007

Quote by Shybimale
NEVER SELL YOUR STORY, THE PAPERS THAT LOST OUT ON THE BIDDING WILL CRUCIFY YOU.

This happened to my friend last year. She was offered money but she just wanted the story out and agreed an exclusive for no payment with one paper - those that wanted the story but were turned down then spent the next few days slagging her off! I read Piers Morgan's book some time ago, can't remember it's name, but I remember he called the tactic a 'spoiler'. Knowing the inside story in this case and how it/she was portrayed in the media really made me see that you have to take what you read with a huge pinch of salt.

4 Jun 2007

Quote by fabio
This is very still relevant to us up here mal....
As the only club now existing in the north east has ended up having loads of "publicity" in the local papers in the last week....thanks to a one woman crusade to have the place basically shut down.....
I am just waiting on the fallout from it but it makes people feel very nervous, and I know that people have already off visits for the time being.....

well the local council have been and a few things got sorted out ie no tea coffee after 11 no dancing no food on so apart from that everything is was 3 of us who posted our comments bout it to the local paper they did reply to us asking for replys to what was said in paper we all declined ,we aint gona give them ammo for there next snipe ,but they had quoted reveiws of the club part off here ,just shows how far they will go for a story :shock:

4 Jun 2007

Sorry its an old thread but was just browsing the archives (I'm sad)
I used to work in the industry and know how the media works.
Any queries get in touch and I can help you out.
Have stopped 2 famlies from being named in the paper with the above advice.
The media does not expect the public to know about their code of conduct and most solicitors dont.

4 Jun 2007

Quote by Mal
It was posted 2 years ago, Marya!!!
Mal

FFS i thought he was on about the recent press coverage! :doh:
Norts - find that link to the newspaper article about ClubF purleeease!

4 Jun 2007

11 Jun 2007

Quote by Marya_Northeast[/quote
FFS i thought he was on about the recent press coverage! :doh:
Norts - find that link to the newspaper article about ClubF purleeease!

its above get off ya ass lol

11 Jun 2007

Quote by splendid_

"She added there are often very expensive cars seen parked outside"
in Sunderland......... :shock:
Another fabrication from the media.......... rolleyes