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Do you think its right that charities are allowed to advertise on T.V using such heart rending adverts and using the feeling of guilt and pity they can create. I mean just look at the NSPCC ads!!! I have a lump in my throat every bloody time its shown and one of my boys cries when he sees it demanding that we give all the money he gets to the charity!
I hate the adverts. to me it really is pimping out to get cash. I wish they would stop. I know that they need to do it for the cash but i really do think its blackmail. I understand why they do it I applaud the work they do. I just wish there was another way.
Quote by Lost
Do you think its right that charities are allowed to advertise on T.V using such heart rending adverts and using the feeling of guilt and pity they can create. I mean just look at the NSPCC ads!!! I have a lump in my throat every bloody time its shown and one of my boys cries when he sees it demanding that we give all the money he gets to the charity!
I hate the adverts. to me it really is pimping out to get cash. I wish they would stop. I know that they need to do it for the cash but i really do think its blackmail. I understand why they do it I applaud the work they do. I just wish there was another way.

i think your post is in bad taste............
surely such emotive advertising will ultimately cause people to put their hands in their pockets which, in the world of collecting charity is the ultimate aim.
its only when people see the true horrors of poverty/disease/hunger/death that they may be swayed to actually do something about the suffering that our fellow humans face on a daily basis,
i think its wrong to condemn those involved in the advertising/highlighting and moan about the way in which it is done.
the truth sometimes hurts......
how can u dream of censoring such advertising?
I agree with both of you.
Yes, these ads are targtting our heartstrings, yes there should be another way - NSPCC, etc should not have to rely on money from charity.
Is it blackmail, or is it giving us actual hard facts that we wouldn't otherwise choose to seek out for ourselves?
Both, I think.
And should they be allowed to collect money this way?
Absolutely.
Yes they should be allowed to advertise.
If it makes people think, bring the topics up for discussion with our children (as painful as that may be) and yes, makes us feel guilty, then they have succeeded in their advertising.
From a personal point of view, the childrens cancer charity appeals on television have been acceptable. The truth of what the reality is with a child with cancer is far more horrific.
An interesting thread Lost and one that will make people who have read this think everytime those ads come on!
Mistress
Just to be contentious ... Maybe there wouldn't be a need for the NSPCC if the Social Services did their job properly. After all the Govt is funding a huge organisation (our money) who invariably seem to get it wrong. They seem more concerned that children up for adoption get put with their on ethnicity group and that fat smokers are banned completely from adopting than ensuring that the children they should be watching over are safe and happy.
Here and waiting for the flame throwers lol
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Just to be contentious ... Maybe there wouldn't be a need for the NSPCC if the Social Services did their job properly. After all the Govt is funding a huge organisation (our money) who invariably seem to get it wrong. They seem more concerned that children up for adoption get put with their on ethnicity group and that fat smokers are banned completely from adopting than ensuring that the children they should be watching over are safe and happy.
Here and waiting for the flame throwers lol

Social Services are (in my area at least) a bunch of incompetent idiots who I wouldnt pay in washers...
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Just to be contentious ... Maybe there wouldn't be a need for the NSPCC if the Social Services did their job properly.

At the end of the day, there wouldn't be a need for social services if some parents did their jobs properly!
Quote by Calista
Just to be contentious ... Maybe there wouldn't be a need for the NSPCC if the Social Services did their job properly.

At the end of the day, there wouldn't be a need for social services if some parents did their jobs properly!
:thumbup:
I can sort of agree with both...
The trouble is where do you stop?? Theres so many.. Children, animals, whole communities etc etc water for this food for that... All of them very deserving causes without a doubt.. and i'm sure most people could spare a few pounds now and then.
My other side thinks.. How does things get like it in the first place?? Surely the money wasted by governmemnts would more than sort ALL the problems out.. why does it fall on guilt to make a difference!
The more we pay towards these causes the more the governments back off and leave them be..
Its a tough one!
Mike x
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I can sort of agree with both...
The trouble is where do you stop?? Theres so many.. Children, animals, whole communities etc etc water for this food for that... All of them very deserving causes without a doubt.. and i'm sure most people could spare a few pounds now and then.
My other side thinks.. How does things get like it in the first place?? Surely the money wasted by governmemnts would more than sort ALL the problems out.. why does it fall on guilt to make a difference!
The more we pay towards these causes the more the governments back off and leave them be..
Its a tough one!
Mike x

agreed...the government must waste millions upon millions unnessessarily....in this day and age should there really be charities for children,animals,cancer etc...
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I mean just look at the NSPCC ads!!! I have a lump in my throat every bloody time its shown and one of my boys cries when he sees it demanding that we give all the money he gets to the charity!

That's what the producers of the adverts want to happen, they are designed to draw people's attention to the horrors that children go through. It is a shame they have to do this through advertising and maybe the money spent on the advertising would be better off being ploughed into helping the children.
But, without the advertising would we all appreciate what these kids are going through?
I think the NSPCC do brilliant work, a well worthy cause, I just want to cuddle all those kids even though I know they're just little actors. :cry:
Good point but....
I wonder if the advertising company gave their time for free as a donation or if the TV channels give the advertising space for free as their donation... dunno
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Good point but....
I wonder if the advertising company gave their time for free as a donation or if the TV channels give the advertising space for free as their donation... dunno

Agreed, I don't actually know I'm presuming the advertising is costly but you could be right, it would be donated space.
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I wonder if the advertising company gave their time for free as a donation or if the TV channels give the advertising space for free as their donation... dunno

not bloody likely....just like the people who stand on the streets trying to get you to set up a monthly Direct Debit...
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I wonder if the advertising company gave their time for free as a donation or if the TV channels give the advertising space for free as their donation... dunno

not bloody likely....just like the people who stand on the streets trying to get you to set up a monthly Direct Debit...
And not long after the debit is set up you start getting begging letters asking you to increase you donation...
You get soooooo many it borders on the verge of harrasment...
Its criminal the charities have to resort to this to get the money they need to operate....
Just goes to show how far out of synch our priorities are...
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I can sort of agree with both...
The trouble is where do you stop?? Theres so many.. Children, animals, whole communities etc etc water for this food for that... All of them very deserving causes without a doubt.. and i'm sure most people could spare a few pounds now and then.
My other side thinks.. How does things get like it in the first place?? Surely the money wasted by governmemnts would more than sort ALL the problems out.. why does it fall on guilt to make a difference!
The more we pay towards these causes the more the governments back off and leave them be..
Its a tough one!
Mike x

agreed...the government must waste millions upon millions unnessessarily....in this day and age should there really be charities for children,animals,cancer etc...
I Agree with this too. And of course there was the setting up of the Lottery fund so as too aid the important things like god knows how many millions into the royal opera house is it?
Deecee Im sorry if you think the post in bad taste I really didn't mean it to be so sad . If your affected by it in anyway I'm sorry. I wholeheartedly support the work these agencies do. Though as others have said. Its a shame in todays world that work has to be done. Hence me saying "I wish there was another way"
Quote by buckingfabe
Maybe there wouldn't be a need for the NSPCC if the Social Services did their job properly. After all the Govt is funding a huge organisation (our money) who invariably seem to get it wrong.

The NSPCC is one of the better funded charities in it's field.
Much of the NSPCC's funding is from both local government (your and mine council tax) and from central government (your and mine tax) - this is channelled though a grant and funding system which makes payments to the NSPCC from the Department of Health, Local Authorities and other Government Agencies - and is given to provide services such as Social Work, Childrens Homes and Advocacy, as well as for specific research projects.
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I can sort of agree with both...
The trouble is where do you stop?? Theres so many.. Children, animals, whole communities etc etc water for this food for that... All of them very deserving causes without a doubt.. and i'm sure most people could spare a few pounds now and then.
My other side thinks.. How does things get like it in the first place?? Surely the money wasted by governmemnts would more than sort ALL the problems out.. why does it fall on guilt to make a difference!
The more we pay towards these causes the more the governments back off and leave them be..
Its a tough one!
Mike x

agreed...the government must waste millions upon millions unnessessarily....in this day and age should there really be charities for children,animals,cancer etc...
I Agree with this too. And of course there was the setting up of the Lottery fund so as too aid the important things like god knows how many millions into the royal opera house is it?
Deecee Im sorry if you think the post in bad taste I really didn't mean it to be so sad . If your affected by it in anyway I'm sorry. I wholeheartedly support the work these agencies do. Though as others have said. Its a shame in todays world that work has to be done. Hence me saying "I wish there was another way"

i think the royal opera house got £25,000,000 from the lottery fund...a down right disgust in my opinion.
Quote by Lost
Deecee Im sorry if you think the post in bad taste I really didn't mean it to be so sad . If your affected by it in anyway I'm sorry. I wholeheartedly support the work these agencies do. Though as others have said. Its a shame in todays world that work has to be done. Hence me saying "I wish there was another way"

no problem lost........
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Quote by Lost
Do you think its right that charities are allowed to advertise on T.V using such heart rending adverts

Yes, I think they should be able to do it. Where would Children In Need, Live Aid etc be without television. Its upsetting to see sometimes but ingorance is definately not bliss where these charities are concerned.
Im not saying that not seeing these adverts makes us ignorant but the plights of these poor kids etc need highlighting and if it brings in a little/lot more money for these charities then im happy to watch or switch over.
Louise xx
what about the people who stand at the doorway of asda and tescos with there tins making you feel bad ?
I for one dont mind giving to charity but wish they wouldnt harass you when shopping. And before anyone says, i do give to charity .
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what about the people who stand at the doorway of asda and tescos with there tins making you feel bad ?
I for one dont mind giving to charity but wish they wouldnt harass you when shopping. And before anyone says, i do give to charity .

I find more harrassing the constant stream of people trying to sign you up to different things, tv, broadband etc than I do the charities. If I dont want to give to charity while out shopping, I simply walk past. Or say, not today thank you.
louise xx
What I find most distasteful is the amount of money the majority of these national charities pay to their "directors"
confused
I don't mind the ads or people rattling tins, I'm happy, healthy, working and probably have more in my life than the people who these charities are trying to help so why not give a little....... biggrin
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I don't mind the ads or people rattling tins, I'm happy, healthy, working and probably have more in my life than the people who these charities are trying to help so why not give a little....... biggrin

well said that man.............. :thumbup:
even if you give loose change it can help make a difference.... and the feelings of having made some sort of diference completely outweigh/dissipate the sickening sensation of seeing a fellow human being suffer in any advert......
Well this news article today raises another worrying issue:
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Well this news article today raises another worrying issue:
The sad thing is this is not unusual. One organization managed to get it down to 17pence in the pound. The rest going on uniform etc, or so I am told. It may have improved by now, it was some years back.
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Just to be contentious ... Maybe there wouldn't be a need for the NSPCC if the Social Services did their job seem more concerned that children up for adoption get put with their on ethnicity group and that fat smokers are banned completely from adopting than ensuring that the children they should be watching over are safe and happy.
Here and waiting for the flame throwers lol

no flames here, but the issues you've raised are actually pretty important.
The question of ethnicity is important in giving child a sense of who they are and where they have been, placing a black or multi-heritage child with the classc white middle class couple will cause that child grief, will cause that child to have identity issues, a lot of effort is put into ensuring a child will fit into an adoption placement, you can't just pick any two (or one ) parents and place any child with them.
The issue of fat smokers is also relevant, you want a child to cope with yet another loss in their lives as a parent or parents dies young cause of health problems. They will have enough issues around loss as it is without giving them anymore.
Social services have a lot of knockers (me included at times) but to use a well cliched phrase, they really do have a thankful task - jump in too soon and they are accused of tormenting 'innocent' parents, too late and they are accused of being responsible for at its worst a childs death. Blame the so-called parents not those who are trying to help
J x
I work for a cancer charity and we only get 30% of our annual income from the Govt, the remainder comes from donations, gift aid and fundraising events. Last year we had to raise £100million to keep caring for our 25,000 patients in the UK.
Yes I agree the adverts DO pull on the heartstrings but isn't it a sad state of affairs that they HAVE to?
What's even more unnerving is, through these adverts you only need to donate £2 a month to help a cancer charity while animals will cost you £3 a month. Am I the only one who thinks the balance is slightly out there? confused
Whilst I accept that what I am writing here is a slight detraction from the actual question raised in this thread I hope you will all agree it is still a valid point.
What I would like to see are the figures of how much of our donations actually are used for their intended purpose . Surely we don't all think the tv companies allow charities to advertise for free ?
I have a friend who is a regional fund raising manager for a 'main stream' charity and whilst I agree she is good at her job and generates money for her employers her salary of 48k + expenses would suggest that not all of what is raised goes where we intebd it to when we put our fivers in the collection box