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Citizenship - a dilemma ?

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I thought I'd pose a question - there are always differing views here, so I have a dilemma for you lol It's non swinging related though so if that offends, look away now :lol:
let's say you're walking down the street in a neighbourhood you dont know, and you reach a house where you can hear the house fire alarm going off ...... the curtains are drawn, there's no car on the drive and it looks like no one's in.... and there's no outward sign of fire......
so (a) do you go knock on the door? see if someone 's in..... what if they're not in? then what?
(b) ring the fire brigade?
(c) do nothing and keep walking, its probably just a malfunctioning alarm dunno
(d) hang around a bit and see if it goes off?
you could think of similar circumstances..... burglar alarm going off , car alarm etc - how many of us actually pay attention to them anymore?
I'm interested in how different people respond to situations like that :dunno: Do you make an emergency call even though you *think* its not an emergency ? what are the implications of that? what about the 'what if's' ?
Do you dwell on 'what if's' and does it influence your actions? and I mean in day to day life, not 'what if's' in personal relationships/ swinging etc.
Discuss smile
I doubt I could carry on without at least checking to see if anyone was in the house, if it was a fire alarm. If it was a burglar alarm or car alarm with no obvious signs of break-in, I'd most likely walk on. I wouldn't want to confront a burglar! If there were signs of a break-in, I'd call the police.
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I doubt I could carry on without at least checking to see if anyone was in the house, if it was a fire alarm. If it was a burglar alarm or car alarm with no obvious signs of break-in, I'd most likely walk on. I wouldn't want to confront a burglar! If there were signs of a break-in, I'd call the police.

How do you tell the difference dunno
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I doubt I could carry on without at least checking to see if anyone was in the house, if it was a fire alarm. If it was a burglar alarm or car alarm with no obvious signs of break-in, I'd most likely walk on. I wouldn't want to confront a burglar! If there were signs of a break-in, I'd call the police.

How do you tell the difference dunno
the fire alarm stops with a gurgling sound as it melts. The burglar alarm keeps going.
I'm assuming that DF meant a smoke alarm and they are quite shrill, in comparison to burglar alarms.
burglar alarms 'ring' , fire alarms 'beep' dunno
sorry, i know what i mean even if you dont lol
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I'm assuming that DF meant a smoke alarm and they are quite shrill, in comparison to burglar alarms.

yes, that's the one FB lol
(its late and i've had a shitty night)
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(its late and i've had a shitty night)

:therethere: kiss
to enlighten you a bit , i've had to deal with this tonight, but it has made me think about how we respond to things.....I know I did what was right under the circumstances and I had the resources (i was working) to hand to respond the best way I could....
but, lets assume you are Joe Bloggs walking down the street minding your own, and someone's smoke alarm is beeping, and it's not switching off, and they're not in.... what do you do?
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I doubt I could carry on without at least checking to see if anyone was in the house, if it was a fire alarm. If it was a burglar alarm or car alarm with no obvious signs of break-in, I'd most likely walk on. I wouldn't want to confront a burglar! If there were signs of a break-in, I'd call the police.

How do you tell the difference dunno
the fire alarm stops with a gurgling sound as it melts. The burglar alarm keeps going.
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
If it was a burglar alarm - then unfortunately I would probably just ignore it redface They seem to go off so regularly these days confused
A few years ago I was on holiday and our burglar alarm went off for the first time ever (excluding every morning when daughter set it off rolleyes ) - lovely neighbour knew it didn't go off at that time of day and called the police - they had to climb over our gate to look round the back and in the windows etc ............. they put it down to a spider or something walking over the sensor :? ........... dunno whether thats what they normally say, or whether they thought I had a messy house and done a wild guess :uhoh:
A fire alarm tho, I would probably call someone and knock the door
i might not hear the alarm over my i-pod............
but if i did... i would definately investigate.. be it a fire alarm or a burglar alarm.....
id take different courses of action dependant on which.......
if theres an alarm sounding. its going off for a reason.. even it its only a false alarm
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to enlighten you a bit , i've had to deal with this tonight, but it has made me think about how we respond to things.....I know I did what was right under the circumstances and I had the resources (i was working) to hand to respond the best way I could....
but, lets assume you are Joe Bloggs walking down the street minding your own, and someone's smoke alarm is beeping, and it's not switching off, and they're not in.... what do you do?

Call the fire brigade deffo!
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but, lets assume you are Joe Bloggs walking down the street minding your own, and someone's smoke alarm is beeping, and it's not switching off, and they're not in.... what do you do?

Call the fire brigade.
If it's a false alarm, at least you get to drool over the firemen biggrin
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but, lets assume you are Joe Bloggs walking down the street minding your own, and someone's smoke alarm is beeping, and it's not switching off, and they're not in.... what do you do?

Call the fire brigade.
If it's a false alarm, at least you get to drool over the firemen biggrin
Oh sorry - forgot that bit!!
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999 ?? for a possible malfunctioning alarm dunno
call out charges, hoax calls, no manned fire station, clogging up the 999 line, no apparent signs of fire.... but the 'what if' wont go away..... dilemma dilemma dilemma lol
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999 ?? for a possible malfunctioning alarm dunno
call out charges, hoax calls, no manned fire station, clogging up the 999 line, no apparent signs of fire.... but the 'what if' wont go away..... dilemma dilemma dilemma lol

It is difficult but usually smoke alarms don't malfunction. Generally speaking the emergency services work on a precautionary principle and if there's a slight risk they err on the side of caution. So I still think it right to call the FB. (Ooops redface )
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999 ?? for a possible malfunctioning alarm dunno
call out charges, hoax calls, no manned fire station, clogging up the 999 line, no apparent signs of fire.... but the 'what if' wont go away..... dilemma dilemma dilemma lol

It is difficult but usually smoke alarms don't malfunction. Generally speaking the emergency services work on a precautionary principle and if there's a slight risk they err on the side of caution. So I still think it right to call the FB. (Ooops redface )
:shock: Call me then :twisted:
ohhh.......this one is a difficult one dark as you say that it's an area you don't know.......to be honest if I was to hear an alarm going in a house that was in an area I didn't know I would be wary but I would stop to see what was wrong.......if I was comfortable in the area I would have a look around the property to see what was up........if I wasn't comfortable with that I would try to speak to the neighbours to see if they could provide any info.........after that I would decide the best couse of action........whatever that would be.......
I'm just commeting on what you have given us to go on........many people will have differing opinions due to jobs etc.......
i think i would at least stop to make sure everything was ok
If i was walking past and heard a fire/smoke alarm and it looked like no 1 was in i wud wait outside for a min or 2 without looking like im up 2 something, go and have a look, if i cud c smoke ring the fire brigade, if not go to a neighbours and tell them its going off and have they got a contact num for the owner so they could contact them and let them no
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but, lets assume you are Joe Bloggs walking down the street minding your own, and someone's smoke alarm is beeping, and it's not switching off, and they're not in.... what do you do?

I think I would ring for the fire brigade but explain to the person taking the call that it looks at though no one is in and then they can make the choice of whether to send the fire brigade there or not dunno - the chances are if they are asleep that the smoke could have got to them before the fire brigade did. I don't think the fire brigade would think it was a hoax call or anything, I'm sure they would rather check it out than have someone die in the house.
mrs ccr xx
I would choose (a) every time, as apart from actually caring I'm a nosy bugger too.
When I first moved to Manchester I was living in quite an unpleasant area (to put it politely) and on the first day in my new house I was trying to change the code on the burglar alarm. Whilst trying to figure it out I accidentally set it off, I called the alarm company who informed me they would be out to re-set it. Whilst waiting for them I decided to go into my front yard as the noise was deafening. There were some teenagers hanging around in the street and I thought I better as them if I should call the police and let them know that yes my alarm is going off but it's only a false alarm. To which the kids just laughed at me and told me they wouldn't come out anyway. confused
I was so naive back then! lol
I think this is one of those situations where its easy to feel or imagine that there is a problem greater than it is, and in doing so, likely to set in action a series of events which may be unwarranted. It also involves conveniently passing on the responsibility to someone else.
Its all too easy to 'phone up' the men in uniforms. They are then obliged to carry out their standard procedures. The services usually respond by breaking into someone's house. Is this what you would do? Probably not. Is this also what you would be happy with if your home was subjected to a false alarm? It actually isn't an enjoyable thing to experience.
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I can appreciate that if someone was genuinely convinced and had good reason to believe it was a life threatening situation it would be understandable. There will also be people who have experienced a genuine disaster and their responses would be justifiably prejudiced. But I think the incidents of false alarms greatly outnumber the genuiine. So I wouldn't do it unless I saw genuine signs.
There has also been a recent presentation of the idea that to get the services to respond you have to 'lay it on'. Hmmmmmmm.........
In the example of an alarm being heard. I wouldn't know or assume it was a fire alarm. It is a daily experience to hear an alarm activated. So it would have to be especially compelling for me to become involved in the scenario. If I did become involved, I would be more likely to approach the neighbours to see how often it occurred and get a slightly better assessment of the situation that way.
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It actually isn't an enjoyable thing to experience.
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Neither is dying of smoke inhalation in your bed :shock:
Call the Fire Brigade....
If the call is made in good faith then you have nothing to be concerned about.
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I always make the call......
I leave all my contact details so they know that I am acting in good faith... never ever want to live with "what ifs"
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If it was a fire alarm I would call the fire brigade. Anything else I would not get involved i'm afraid. This question raises the whole would you do something dillema, IE, step in if someone is getting beaten up etc etc, I have done in the past and have always ended up regretting it.
I would definately give a knock to see if someone is there and if there wasnt i would call the fire brigade just in case there was someone in there who couldnt come to the door. I couldnt forgive myself if someone was seriously hurt because i didnt check. Even if it was a false alarm.
Louise xx
if your avatar knocked on a door..............
u scare the life out of anyone who answered!!!!!!!!!!
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nice to see it back btw....... :D