I don't think people should pay to go to munches if it means someones making money out of us, but i think if its costing the person doing it money for the room, buffet etc then yes we should all chip in, if its a night for us all we all should pay 2wards it, to me thats still a none profit making site.
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Just to point out that I chose not to charge for my services at the Essex Munch I as will be the case at Essex Munch II. I was pleasantly surprised when I received the contents of the bucket (Thankfully changed up!!) As a professional DJ my charge for a gig like that would be 5-6 times over what I received....I'm not moaning!!!!!
My personal thoughts on wether to charge is that I don't see why the organiser should foot the whole bill, to be honest.....how many of us out there can spare that kind of cash out of their weekly/monthly paycheck?? £3 or less seems an insignificant amount to pay and at least you are informed of that before you put your name down. Its the old adage, you don't wanna pay then don't go and don't bitch about it when you're not going anyway!!!!
Alex DJ
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So did we resolve this issue!?!?!?
Alex DJ
This is a tricky one to answer..
on one side. i'm for the charge. but on another i'm against it.
I can understand the agreement for putting a charge on. casue it can be expeive to hold a munch. the venue, the time it takes to organinse. etc.. but the problem with this is that there are a few people in this world (not saying it is any of the organisers of the munches so far so please dont think that is what i'm saying). that will see this as a way of exploiting SH. and it has been done in the past.. not with munches but with users advertising parties to plug swinging clubs.
as people who know me, i will always dig deep when needed to. (i seemed to be one of the few that was bidding in the Leics munch) but sometimes its not nice to have the pressure of having to give to charity. if i'm walking through Birmingham City centre early in the morning. i always get collered by the homeless. purely because i know for a fact i'll feel bad if i walk pass with out giving. same can be said for having to give here.
Yes, Denise has hit the nail on the head here. The rule is very simple, munch organisers cannot make a profit.
It's impossible to tell in advance exactly how many people will actually turn up, which means you can't just divide the costs by the number of people - and if you did, can you imagine the time it would take to give the right change for a charge of (and .435 of a penny)? A charitable donation is the only way to balance the books and not make a profit.
Doing anything costs money. I would expect to pay an entry fee, some kind of charity contribution, collections for a cause etc. Its all part of life.
I feel I have to step in here since I've been mentioned more than once.
The Teesside Social Meet that I organised in December was not called a Munch simply because did not want to bound up by the SH red tape that caused so much confusion when PJ and I attempted the original Teesside Munch back in the Summer.
At the time, as newbies, we were not recognised by the regs so basically every steop of the way, instead of recieving sound advice (with one or two expceptions) we were basically stamped on from the start.
The MUnch was to be held at a swingers hotel where people would be expected to pay for the cost of their hotel room but NOT to attend the Munch. So, if you wanted to come to the Munch but had somewhere else to stay then you wouldn't have to pay a thing. we did discuss the cost of hiring the place if no one wanted to stay, asking for donations for possible entertanment we ha in mind. None of this was set in stone but as usual the SH rumour mill took hold of the bare bones of it, ran away with it and like Chinese whispers, before we knew it, it has become something completely different to how it started out.
I received a PM asking me to explain exactly what was going on. I replied to this as best I could, offering every scrap of information I had at my disposal - still bearing in mind, nothing was actually arranged yet, it was all still in the planning phase - in the meantime, said mod locked the thread and didn't even respond to my PM.
Around the same time, a certain SH member announced plans for a party to be held in his home. The post immediately got 'stickied'. A case of if your fits? Or just shagging the right mod??
Now we have stickied events that are without a doubt charging a fee, parties held in clubs etc, etc. The Leics after party was on the Munch thread. It was to cost £10 entrance. Why should I as a single fem pay £10 to get in club when almost every other club lets me in for free?
Why hould I pay £3 for the Essex Munch? It wasn't a donation, it was compulsory. If you didn't pay, you didn't get a badge. I don't resent paying: I chipped in a tenner at one Munch. I don't think Munch organisers should have to pay for everything. It's just the way they go about asking for money that pees me off.
It's always been the same on here. It's all about who you are and what you are to other people.
Fuck it, I'm here now, I'm gonna rant as much as I want. Bring it on. Those of you that know me, know that I'm not afraid to say what I want. If this gets deleted then so what. It's what I think. If you don't like it, tough.
Just a quick correction, the £3 for the room hire at the Essex munch was not compulsory, and (if I recall correctly) 3 people didn't pay it, but still got their badges - two of them objected to having to pay, and one arrived well after 11pm, so I felt it would have been unfair to ask that one.
Just because you are gobby, Marya, it doesn't mean you are right. Whatever else you have put here I resent the implication of " Or just shagging the right mod?? "
If you have a point to make, say your specifics and back them up. No half truths, no rumour control - just hard facts. If you haven't got them, then put it down to experience and move on.
Mal
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Bumping this up sure worked!!!!
My thoughts if anyone would like to read them? The thread seems to have started wandering as per usual and I can see some peeps getting a little het up with each other.
If I went to a much and it cost me £10 for instance, would gladly pay it, its simple because it saves me having to arrange one.
And as to the original post....£3 ? FOR GODS SAKE MAN, PAY IT, its only enough to get you one decent drink in a pub, what the hell is wrong with some people.
Rant Over!!!