Condoms

6 Apr 2005

Quote by peenut
Yes. if you ever did the student thing of filling one up with water they can stretch to enormous sizes!!!!!!!!!
What are peoples views on femedoms then?

Used this type of contraception once. Sounded like we were using an empty packet of Walkers crisps........the rustling was just so funny. But when I saw the inserted femedom..............oh that was it........my chest hurt so much from the laughing.
Dave_Notts

6 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
in the old days, my ex-wife and I tried condoms, but we never able to get on with them, as they were painfull to her due to wrinkling and I could not purchase one that was big enough to fit me, plus they always came off during intercourse. Personally, I have always preferred sex without the discomfort of a rubber and my ex- liked to ride it bareback.

Erm, sounds like you are contradicting yourself. If you are too big, condoms should fit very snuggly and not come off easily. Also they would not wrinkle, unless of course you are just 2 inches long in which case...
As others have pointed out, condoms are a necessity in our age and time. Going bareback is not an option, even among couples. You can never be 100% sure of anything in life, much less the fidelity of your partner.

6 Apr 2005

Quote by Tania
You can never be 100% sure of anything in life, much less the fidelity of your partner.

Excuse me, I can. That's likely to be seen as offensive by some people on here. confused

6 Apr 2005

Quote by freckledbird
You can never be 100% sure of anything in life, much less the fidelity of your partner.

Excuse me, I can. That's likely to be seen as offensive by some people on here. confused

Agreed Freckledbird. You have to be secure in your relationship if you swing as a couple. If I wasn't i wouldn't be here.

6 Apr 2005

I agree with Judy and FreckleBird
Shireen
xxx

6 Apr 2005

I think we all know there are people around who, for a variety of reasons (excuses?) choose not to use condoms. We all have the choice not to play with those people and most swingers make the safe choice. More so, in my experience, than people who do not swing. I am constantly amazed by the number of guys I meet who have never used a condom. Madness.

6 Apr 2005

Quote by Tania
As others have pointed out, condoms are a necessity in our age and time. Going bareback is not an option, even among couples. You can never be 100% sure of anything in life, much less the fidelity of your partner.

I know ppl have taken offence to this, but i agree with Tania on this one through experience, I'm not going in to details because it would be long & boring, but its very true, but that is when someone breaks the trust.
I'm now with someone else & when we met we used condoms, now i don't feel the need to between us, I do however if it involves anyone else. Sex doesn't come with any guarantees

6 Apr 2005

Quote by lilacgem

As others have pointed out, condoms are a necessity in our age and time. Going bareback is not an option, even among couples. You can never be 100% sure of anything in life, much less the fidelity of your partner.

I know ppl have taken offence to this, but i agree with Tania on this one through experience, I'm not going in to details because it would be long & boring, but its very true, but that is when someone breaks the trust.
I'm now with someone else & when we met we used condoms, now i don't feel the need to between us, I do however if it involves anyone else. Sex doesn't come with any guarantees
Nothing in life comes with guarantees. I trust my partner to be 100% honest with me. He is not infallible - neither am I. I am 99% certain that he would never cheat on me. I am 100% certain that if he ever did sleep with anyone else without my knowledge he would be honest and tell me. And I reckon that honesty is far more important than fidelity.

6 Apr 2005

Chris has no need to cheat on me, nor do I need to cheat on him. We are always honest with each other, not just with the sex and this lifestyle, but in everyday life as well. We trust each other 100% and each of us acknowledges that if the trust went, so would the marriage. All marriages/partnerships should be based on love, trust and honesty - if you haven't got those, what else have you got? Yes, we've both had sex outside the marriage. We each discussed it with the other, though.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
However, it does not guarantee that one will not catch something, ie, through a split condom, or overspill, so how can one enjoy sex due to the inherent danger of disease.

Quote by veejay
Well you'll enjoy it more than when not using condoms where you'll most likely get something.
I think youre deliberately making stupid posts to wind people up. Its people like you are responsible for giving swingers the image of being wreckless/irresponsible sex freaks. It'll only be a matter of time before you'll get some bad news.

Quote by O. K.
I think you are deliberately making stupid posts to wind me up, its people like you who are reponsible for causing trouble when there isn't any and it is you who are the bad news!!!

LOL...
You may not have any condom sense, sorry that should've been common sense. But you sure are funny. (not just in the head either)
rotflmao

7 Apr 2005

Someone in here obviously doesnt want to get laid! No comdoms? Sorry, but to say that and still expect someone to shag you is stupid. While it is true that they can detract a little of the sensation, it is reasuring to know you are protecting yourself. Especialy when you don't know where the other person has been!
And if you don't believe that comdoms work, then ask yourself why there is so much HIV in third world countries. Its because they either don't know about comdoms, or they arn't available. And irresponsible people are still spreading STD's here, because they never believe it will happen to them. banghead

7 Apr 2005

Quote by lilacgem

As others have pointed out, condoms are a necessity in our age and time. Going bareback is not an option, even among couples. You can never be 100% sure of anything in life, much less the fidelity of your partner.

I know ppl have taken offence to this, but i agree with Tania on this one through experience, I'm not going in to details because it would be long & boring, but its very true, but that is when someone breaks the trust.
I'm now with someone else & when we met we used condoms, now i don't feel the need to between us, I do however if it involves anyone else. Sex doesn't come with any guarantees
Not aimed at you directly... but before you took the choice that the relationship was going well and there was the trust, did you both go for a std check up before not using the condoms.
I would say that most people while initially starting a relationship using condoms anfter a while when the relationship is progreassing decide not to use them, or laps into non-use if one is steralised or on a contraceptive... this does not however say that one or the other, or even both, has/have a non-symptomatic sti (as they are now called)
The problem is a visit to the clinic is a time consuming business (up to 8 hours with a drop in, up to 2 with an apointment) and then takes up to 1-2 weeks for a sti positive, and 3-6 weeks if you are in the clear; most dont contact if you are negative for the tested sti's but i personally feel they should contact both ways so no one falls thougth the gaps by say a delayed result or a mix up.
Using condoms is not "safe sex" its "safer sex," dont forget the fail rate for pregnancies is 2 in 100, so if you shag 100 people statistically you will get 2 pregnant, the same kind of statistic is true for sti's. But statistics are statistics... if say the chances of catchng aids is 1 in 40, 000 then you could catch it the first time, but someone else could shag 80,000 people (or a number of people a number of times) and not be infected to equal out the statistic!
I personally do tend to use a condom of my own choice, I will use one with no problems should a partner or a couple want me to, but there are times when I dont... I do however have regular check ups if I am, or have been, sexually active wether I used protection or not.
I get tested for a couple of reasons, 1) if i were to test positive for one of the sti's I would not want to pass it on, 2) if i tested positive for a sti I would like it to be fixed (if possible) before secondary problems occured, 3) were I to catch one of the life threatining sti's then in most cases life style and health changes can increase the average life of the person infected, 4) some of the minor sti's can increase infection rates of the major sti's... and so on...
I wonder how many people on here could honestly say that they have been tested in the last 3 months and genuinly know they are free of all the tested sti's?

7 Apr 2005

Quote by veejay
However, it does not guarantee that one will not catch something, ie, through a split condom, or overspill, so how can one enjoy sex due to the inherent danger of disease.

Quote by veejay
Well you'll enjoy it more than when not using condoms where you'll most likely get something.
I think youre deliberately making stupid posts to wind people up. Its people like you are responsible for giving swingers the image of being wreckless/irresponsible sex freaks. It'll only be a matter of time before you'll get some bad news.

Quote by O. K.
I think you are deliberately making stupid posts to wind me up, its people like you who are reponsible for causing trouble when there isn't any and it is you who are the bad news!!!

LOL...
You may not have any condom sense, sorry that should've been common sense. But you sure are funny. (not just in the head either)
rotflmao

GET STUFFED DICK HEAD !!!

7 Apr 2005

Quote by piercedJon

As others have pointed out, condoms are a necessity in our age and time. Going bareback is not an option, even among couples. You can never be 100% sure of anything in life, much less the fidelity of your partner.

I know ppl have taken offence to this, but i agree with Tania on this one through experience, I'm not going in to details because it would be long & boring, but its very true, but that is when someone breaks the trust.
I'm now with someone else & when we met we used condoms, now i don't feel the need to between us, I do however if it involves anyone else. Sex doesn't come with any guarantees
Not aimed at you directly... but before you took the choice that the relationship was going well and there was the trust, did you both go for a std check up before not using the condoms.
I would say that most people while initially starting a relationship using condoms anfter a while when the relationship is progreassing decide not to use them, or laps into non-use if one is steralised or on a contraceptive... this does not however say that one or the other, or even both, has/have a non-symptomatic sti (as they are now called)
The problem is a visit to the clinic is a time consuming business (up to 8 hours with a drop in, up to 2 with an apointment) and then takes up to 1-2 weeks for a sti positive, and 3-6 weeks if you are in the clear; most dont contact if you are negative for the tested sti's but i personally feel they should contact both ways so no one falls thougth the gaps by say a delayed result or a mix up.
Using condoms is not "safe sex" its "safer sex," dont forget the fail rate for pregnancies is 2 in 100, so if you shag 100 people statistically you will get 2 pregnant, the same kind of statistic is true for sti's. But statistics are statistics... if say the chances of catchng aids is 1 in 40, 000 then you could catch it the first time, but someone else could shag 80,000 people (or a number of people a number of times) and not be infected to equal out the statistic!
I personally do tend to use a condom of my own choice, I will use one with no problems should a partner or a couple want me to, but there are times when I dont... I do however have regular check ups if I am, or have been, sexually active wether I used protection or not.
I get tested for a couple of reasons, 1) if i were to test positive for one of the sti's I would not want to pass it on, 2) if i tested positive for a sti I would like it to be fixed (if possible) before secondary problems occured, 3) were I to catch one of the life threatining sti's then in most cases life style and health changes can increase the average life of the person infected, 4) some of the minor sti's can increase infection rates of the major sti's... and so on...
I wonder how many people on here could honestly say that they have been tested in the last 3 months and genuinly know they are free of all the tested sti's?
I totally agree and I salute you Sir, you talk a lot of sense, if everyone was as considerate as you there wouldn't be any need to worry about catching STDs.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
GET STUFFED DICK HEAD !!!

O.K. - next time you shout at one of our members in this way, it will be the last time you post on these forums mad

Dawn

7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
However, it does not guarantee that one will not catch something, ie, through a split condom, or overspill, so how can one enjoy sex due to the inherent danger of disease.

Quote by veejay
Well you'll enjoy it more than when not using condoms where you'll most likely get something.
I think youre deliberately making stupid posts to wind people up. Its people like you are responsible for giving swingers the image of being wreckless/irresponsible sex freaks. It'll only be a matter of time before you'll get some bad news.

Quote by O. K.
I think you are deliberately making stupid posts to wind me up, its people like you who are reponsible for causing trouble when there isn't any and it is you who are the bad news!!!

Quote by veejay
LOL...
You may not have any condom sense, sorry that should've been common sense. But you sure are funny. (not just in the head either)

Quote by O. K.
GET STUFFED DICK HEAD !!!

I think if anyone is gonna get stuffed, it'll be you- stuffed full of sti's that is.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
I totally agree and I salute you Sir, you talk a lot of sense, if everyone was as considerate as you there wouldn't be any need to worry about catching STDs.

And if everyone was responsible enough to use condoms, serious/life threatening STI's could potentially have been a disease of the past.
Being tested only shows whether you maybe affected or not. It won't prevent you from getting it in the first place. It'll be people like you costin the NHS millions in anti-retroviral treatment, when there are people waiting treatment for diseases that they couldn't have prevented.
Talk about being considerate.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
I totally agree and I salute you Sir, you talk a lot of sense, if everyone was as considerate as you there wouldn't be any need to worry about catching STDs.

But everyone isn't that considerate, so people DO need to worry about catching STD's, so everyone should use condoms, yet you're objecting????

7 Apr 2005

I think he is objecting to the way people have jumped at his throat. He only posed a question for discussion but as always anyone new attempting to communicate with others is sidelined and stoned. It is sad really how a debate can end up in fist fight... :cry:

7 Apr 2005

Quote by Tania
I think he is objecting to the way people have jumped at his throat. He only posed a question for discussion but as always anyone new attempting to communicate with others is sidelined and stoned. It is sad really how a debate can end up in fist fight... :cry:

O K is not a newbie and he really wasn't asking a question,he was sounding negative and if I'm not mistaken you too jumped down his throat as you put it!

7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
We are told to use condoms, practice safe sex and keep healthy, one can buy, black condoms, white condoms, fragrant condoms, fruit flavoured, thick ones, thin ones, but never have intercourse without one. However, it does not guarantee that one will not catch something, ie, through a split condom, or overspill, so how can one enjoy sex due to the inherent danger of disease.
Does everyone use these abominations? in the old days, my ex-wife and I tried condoms, but we never able to get on with them, as they were painfull to her due to wrinkling and I could not purchase one that was big enough to fit me, plus they always came off during intercourse. Personally, I have always preferred sex without the discomfort of a rubber and my ex- liked to ride it bareback.

He didn't just pose a question for discussion, he's also made some quite contradictory statements, which you yourself pointed out, I believe. People are debating what he's talking about and he's resorted to name-calling and abuse. He's posted some odd posts lately, which is either to wind people up or a cry for help (my opinion).
He isn't new, either. This is a debate and it hasn't ended up in a fist fight. As for ' as always anyone new attempting to communicate with others being sidelined and stoned', that's not the case for all new people anyway. I'm sure there are many newbies who will attest to the fact that they have been warmly welcomed and their posts well received. I'd also say that they are the ones who don't come in moaning and making 'wind up' comments.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by Tania
Erm, sounds like you are contradicting yourself. If you are too big, condoms should fit very snuggly and not come off easily. Also they would not wrinkle, unless of course you are just 2 inches long in which case...
As others have pointed out, condoms are a necessity in our age and time. Going bareback is not an option, even among couples. You can never be 100% sure of anything in life, much less the fidelity of your partner.

There's the bit where YOU jumped down his throat. confused

7 Apr 2005

This was in todays Times, that a Vaccine for HPV will be available and will help to reduce cervical cancer

But in regards to Comdoms both Mrs BB and I use them and wouldn't use anything else. They maybe a pain to use but at the end of the day we find them best for us.
BB

7 Apr 2005

I think the thing here to remember is choice, yes it is a choice with our lives, but it is still our choice.
I use condoms with anyone but my partner (After 12 years together we must have caught everything we each have lol

).
I must say I do have a bit of an issue believing that there are not condoms big enough for all (I have a small penis so suffer no problem wink

) I have seen some adult movies where the guys have extremely large sausages between their legs and still get condoms to fit.
My point is, if OK doesn't like condoms and doesn't want to use them, that is fine, and if people are happy to go bareback with him, that is fine, but he must understand that others will not agree with his position, in the same way he may question those that will not play without condoms.
Life is about risk and how we manage it. I do not want to take the risk and so use condoms. You only have to go by the recent situation in the American Adult film industry. They have in place some good testing programmes but still an actor was found to have AIDS, and stars were pulled from the sets of movies to be rechecked. Checking is good, but it only tells you you have or have not caught something, it doesnâ€™t provide any form or protection or prevention.
I have just read the whole thread and can see this is an emotive issue, but as always lets act like adults and kill each other, no I mean, respect each others beliefs even if we disagree with them.
As Voltaire said
â€œI disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say

7 Apr 2005

Quote by LordZenx
I think the thing here to remember is choice, yes it is a choice with our lives, but it is still our choice.

but to be able to make the right choice for you it must be an informed choice. I usually hang around in the dogging forum and we recently had one of these threads. See the link below, and there are some links in there about the possibility of STD's and oral sex.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/35352.html
BBx :twisted:

7 Apr 2005

Personally I always use condoms. Risking your health and possibly causing an unwanted pregnancy for the sake of a quick (how very honest of me!) thrill just isn't worth it.
The only time I didn't use them was when I was in a long term relationship. And as for the men who claim they take away some of the feeling, I've always found that to be a good thing - means I can last longer! It's still just as enjoyable. In fact (going to be honest again here) when I did have sex without one I found my little fella found it all too exciting and I never lasted long - so eventually we went back to using them!
So not only do they protect you (not 100%, agreed, but to some extent) but in my case, they help me to be more than just a 2 (and sometimes less sad

) minute man!
redface

And I'm really beginning to wish I'd never posted this now!
Be sensible - play safe!

7 Apr 2005

Quote by Up4itxxx
So not only do they protect you (not 100%, agreed, but to some extent) but in my case, they help me to be more than just a 2 (and sometimes less ) minute man!

Wow I never have the energy to do it twice !!! wink

(I would like to thank Chubby Brown for the joke)

7 Apr 2005

Quote by LordZenx
So not only do they protect you (not 100%, agreed, but to some extent) but in my case, they help me to be more than just a 2 (and sometimes less ) minute man!

Wow I never have the energy to do it twice !!! wink

(I would like to thank Chubby Brown for the joke)
I have to do it twice because sometimes they don't notice the first time :!:
I've got to stop being so honest......... :wink:

7 Apr 2005

Quote by Up4itxxx
So not only do they protect you (not 100%, agreed, but to some extent) but in my case, they help me to be more than just a 2 (and sometimes less ) minute man!

Wow I never have the energy to do it twice !!! wink

(I would like to thank Chubby Brown for the joke)
I have to do it twice because sometimes they don't notice the first time :!:
I've got to stop being so honest......... :wink:
Ahh, the assassin shag, they never know what hit them lol

7 Apr 2005

Quote by LordZenx
Ahh, the assassin shag, they never know what hit them

No-one expects the spanish indiscretion!