Curious or not ??

9 Dec 2004

Hi again everyone wave

Seen this now thousands upon thousands of times and it still confuses me :shock: (ok not hard I know before you lot start).
So to my question ? :P At what point does someone, male or female become bi as opposed to curious ? confused

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I'm my opinion, surely, if the person has tried and liked/enjoyed the experience and wants to persue it further then they can no longer be curious can they ? So why do people insist on putting thing like " Bicurious fem , tried once wants more" if they have tried, liked and want more :? ?
I do appreciate that there are verying degree's of "Bi" especially on the male side i.e . Those who will only go as far as oral and will not and do not wish to progress to the full monty (anal) and the fems, who again don't mind if the other fem is bi but really prefer cock ( I call these takers ), so ?? dunno

What is Bi and what is BiCurious rolleyes

9 Dec 2004

As far as this site is concerned I believe the problem and confusion has arisen due to a simple punctuation error .
For most SH members simply re-read the advert and insert a full stop or the words ' and a bit' then it all makes sence .
G

9 Dec 2004

Quote by Silk and Big G
As far as this site is concerned I believe the problem and confusion has arisen due to a simple punctuation error .
For most SH members simply re-read the advert and insert a full stop or the words ' and a bit' then it all makes sence .
G

?? FFS now I'm more confused

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9 Dec 2004

:P I had a girlfriend from the age of 18-22.
Even got married and fell pregnant while still with her.
Since then I've snogged a few girls but nothing more.
What does that make me dunno

Does it really matter wink

:P :P

:lol:

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants
I do appreciate that there are verying degree's of "Bi" especially on the male side i.e . Those who will only go as far as oral and will not and do not wish to progress to the full monty (anal)

If a heterosexual girl doesn't want anal sex with a man, does that make her only straight by a degree? dunno

9 Dec 2004

Quote by roger743
If a heterosexual girl doesn't want anal sex with a man, does that make her only straight by a degree?

Errrrrrrrr Bi = "Sex with same sex " i.e. fem on fem man on man :P

9 Dec 2004

From various sources:

biÂ·sexÂ·uÂ·al
adj.
Relating to both sexes.
Having both male and female reproductive organs; hermaphroditic.
Relating to or having a sexual orientation to persons of either sex.
n.
A bisexual organism; a hermaphrodite.
A bisexual person.

Main Entry: 1biÂ·sexÂ·uÂ·al
1 a : possessing characters of both sexes : HERMAPHRODITIC b : sexually oriented toward both sexes a bisexual person who engages in both heterosexual and homosexual practices
2 : of, relating to, or involving two sexes

bisexual
Of both sexes; hermaphrodite; as a flower with stamens and pistil, or an animal having ovaries and testes.

bisexual
adj 1: sexually attracted to both sexes 2: having an ambiguous sexual identity n : a person who is sexually attracted to both sexes

I like the one in bold - nice and gentle. If you are able to get turned on by members of either sex then you are bi sexual. For me, it allows people to enjoy things that turn them on without the feeling that they are crossing some sort of imaginary line.
When I see 'bi-curious' I think of someone who wants to explore bi-sexual fantasies without really knowing if they would enjoy those fantasies becoming a physical reality.
Bi sexual - Someone who enjoys the fantasy, and the reality.
And straight? - someone who only gets turned on by members of the opposite sex.
We appear to have a missing buzzword though - for the person who gets turned on by both sexes, but only as a fantasy. confused

Bi ummm .......
lhk
Note to self - always preview when using cut and paste, otherwise it can look a right mess! rolleyes

9 Dec 2004

Good question. When someone puts "bi curious" in an ad or reply, I always assume it is someone who has never tried sex with the same sex but wants to give it a go. But not everyone has the same idea though. I think someone who is attracted to the same sex and who has tried sex with the same sex once or twice is a bit past the curious stage. But maybe some people still put "curious" in those types of situation cos they still don't feel that confident with it. If I was interested in meeting someone who was calling themselves "curious" I would ask them specifically what experience they had had, so I could work out whether we had common ground. Categories such as "bi" and "bi curious" are a bit false anyway as far as actual behaviours are concerned. Some guys say they are "orally bi" to denote that they don't do anal with men, but others will be more specific, e.g. they might say they give but won't take anal, etc etc. It all comes down to chatting to someone to see what they mean exactly.
To me, being bi means you are attracted to some members of both sexes, whether or not you partake in certain behaviours normally associated with straight or gay sex......... but again, others wouldn't agree with that......
All very confusing! :?

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants
Hi again everyone Seen this now thousands upon thousands of times and it still confuses me :shock: (ok not hard I know before you lot start).
So to my question ? :P At what point does someone, male or female become bi as opposed to curious ? :
I'm my opinion, surely, if the person has tried and liked/enjoyed the experience and wants to persue it further then they can no longer be curious can they ? So why do people insist on putting thing like " Bicurious fem , tried once wants more" if they have tried, liked and want more :? ?
I do appreciate that there are verying degree's of "Bi" especially on the male side i.e . Those who will only go as far as oral and will not and do not wish to progress to the full monty (anal) and the fems, who again don't mind if the other fem is bi but really prefer cock ( I call these takers ), so ?? What is Bi and what is BiCurious

In my opinion, there is no difference between bisexual and bi curious. To make a distinction is to imply that a person's sexuality depends on their experience, which is not the case. I knew what my sexuality was before I had sex - I was never "hetero-curious". :roll:

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants

If a heterosexual girl doesn't want anal sex with a man, does that make her only straight by a degree?

Errrrrrrrr Bi = "Sex with same sex " i.e. fem on fem man on man :P
Is anal sex a requisite to be fully bi?
Surely degrees of bi-ness are how much you wish to play with the same sex compared to the opposite sex, not what sexual activities you indulge in.
Anal/oral for bi-men could be compared to hard/soft swing rather than fully bi/a bit bi.

9 Dec 2004

Quote by Ice Pie
In my opinion, there is no difference between bisexual and bi curious. To make a distinction is to imply that a person's sexuality depends on their experience, which is not the case. I knew what my sexuality was before I had nex - I was never "hetero-curious".

Yes, I'd agree with that... it fits with what I just said about if you're attracted to members of both sexes then you are bi. The behavioural differences between "bi" and "bi curious" are false. I remember debating this with my brother in law a few years ago. His cousin was calling himself gay even though he was only 16 and had never had sex with anyone. My brother in law couldn't understand why his cousin could be gay if he'd never had sex with a man. He sort of got it when I said, "yeah but you you knew you were straight before you ever fucked a woman". When I say he sort of got it, he still argued the toss but his arguement fell at the first hurdle cool

. I knew I was bi when I was about 12, but it took me a lot longer to actually tell anyone! redface

9 Dec 2004

Quote by northwest-cpl
Is anal sex a requisite to be fully bi?

For males maybe but it has absolutely fuck all to do with BiFems

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants

Is anal sex a requisite to be fully bi?

For males maybe but it has absolutely fuck all to do with BiFems
So no bifems ever have anal play with other bifems?

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants

Is anal sex a requisite to be fully bi?

For males maybe but it has absolutely fuck all to do with BiFems
Perhaps not, but in your opening post you said,

Quote by BiFemHants
So to my question ? :P At what point does someone, male or female become bi as opposed to curious ? :

Please clarify - do you want to talk about bi people or just bi females?

9 Dec 2004

I know it must be really hard for you IcePie confused

But if you READ the whole thing hun it does refer to both males and females.
Anal sex between man and women has nothing to do with being "Bi"

9 Dec 2004

Although I had never even thought about having fem on fem before, I have tried it now.
It was with some very good friends of ours (a couple from this site) and I have to say if anyone is curious, they couldn't have wished for a better introduction to actually trying it for themselves.
There was absolutely no pressure, it very very gentle, relaxed, all four of us had a very good time and I did enjoy it wink

However, I would not actively seek this kind of relationship, but wouldn't feel uncomfortable with it, should an occassion arise redface

I'm told this makes me situationally bi so is this yet another slant on being bi or curious? dunno

I'm not really sure, so will be sticking to to sex with guys in future. At least I know where I am that way surprised

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Tracy-Jayne

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants
I know it must be really hard for you IcePie But if you READ the whole thing hun it does refer to both males and females.
Anal sex between man and women has nothing to do with being "Bi"

Surely anal sex has nothing to do with being bi at all. How can anal sex define someone as bi when heterosexual men take anal sex from a woman using a strap on or dildo? Does that make them bi?
Bi means playing with the same sex, not how you play.

9 Dec 2004

There seems to be an assumption that "bi-curious" only applies to heterosexual individuals.
Is it not possible for a person with only homosexual experiences to also be "bi-curious"? confused

Surely this linear concept that people go from straight to bi to gay in one direction only is part of social stigma and not a true reflection of the endless variations and possiblities?
lhk
Kat

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants
I know it must be really hard for you IcePie But if you READ the whole thing hun it does refer to both males and females.
Anal sex between man and women has nothing to do with being "Bi"

I was trying to clarify your intention because you objected to a comment about something that had nothing to do with females. Yes I DID read the whole thing, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed your contradiction.

9 Dec 2004

Quote by northwest-cpl
Bi means playing with the same sex.

Are you sure?

9 Dec 2004

Ok enjoys ffs happy pmsl
Was only making an observation :cry: not looking for an argument .......Honest wink

9 Dec 2004

Quote by Ice Pie
Bi means playing with the same sex.

Are you sure?
Yes Ice.
It also involves playing with the opposite sex at the same or different times to a greater or lesser degree.
Those that haven't yet played could be confident that they are bi but not certain.

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants
Ok enjoys ffs happy pmsl
Was only making an observation :cry: not looking for an argument .......Honest

I wasn't looking for an argument. I asked you a question and you got all pissy on me. rolleyes

9 Dec 2004

Quote by northwest-cpl
Bi means playing with the same sex.

Are you sure?
Yes Ice.
It also involves playing with the opposite sex at the same or different times to a greater or lesser degree.
Those that haven't yet played could be confident that they are bi but not certain.
I beg to differ. Bisexual means attracted to both sexes. It doesn't mean played with one or the other or both. And as far as I can tell, bi curious means exactly the same thing.

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants

I do appreciate that there are verying degree's of "Bi" especially on the male side i.e . Those who will only go as far as oral and will not and do not wish to progress to the full monty (anal) and the fems, who again don't mind if the other fem is bi but really prefer cock ( I call these takers ), so ?? What is Bi and what is BiCurious

I was trying to clarify your intention because you objected to a comment about something that had nothing to do with females. Yes I DID read the whole thing, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed your contradiction

Ice, Bi fem was quoted out of context (sorry Rog) - she was clearly talking about both sexes, and gave a suitable example for each sex. The contradiction you observed was created by Roger's (sorry Rog) post which focussed on only one example.
lhk

9 Dec 2004

I'm not getting "PISSY" as you so eloquently put it :P
Gheeesh I was only asking a question and not looking for an english lesson there were many others who managed to reply without silly, stupid, minor points being picked up on :cry:

9 Dec 2004

Quote by Ice Pie
Bi means playing with the same sex.

Are you sure?
Yes Ice.
It also involves playing with the opposite sex at the same or different times to a greater or lesser degree.
Those that haven't yet played could be confident that they are bi but not certain.
I beg to differ. Bisexual means attracted to both sexes. It doesn't mean played with one or the other or both. And as far as I can tell, bi curious means exactly the same thing.
I think you are playing with words Ice. The dictionary actually says "sexually attracted". You are correct in that a bisexual virgin would consider themselves bisexual. However, until we have actually tried something we cannot be certain that we will like it. I quite like the look of sprouts but one taste convinced me that my attraction was erroneous.

9 Dec 2004

Quote by BiFemHants
I'm not getting "PISSY" as you so eloquently put it :P
Gheeesh I was only asking a question and not looking for an english lesson there were many others who managed to reply without silly, stupid, minor points being picked up on :cry:

Well I do apologise for being silly stupid and minor, it's just that I find it difficult to take part in a conversation when people fail to make themselves clear. I usually find that asking them to clarify the bits I haven't understood makes things easier, but in your case this was to no avail as you met my query with sneering sarcasm. I leave you to your thread and your superior attitude. Have a nice day.

9 Dec 2004

Typical :twisted:
Here's me thinking it was a plain,simple question !!!
Guess I got that wrong eh ??

9 Dec 2004

Quote by KitKat
Ice, Bi fem was quoted out of context (sorry Rog) - she was clearly talking about both sexes, and gave a suitable example for each sex. The contradiction you observed was created by Roger's (sorry Rog) post which focussed on only one example.

This is all getting way too involved...
To clarify, I was just trying to make the point that if you define rules to classify a female as homosexual or bisexual, surely the same rules would have to apply (with obvious substitutions of genitals) to classify a male as homosexual or bisexual, or indeed to classify a male or female as heterosexual? So if, for example, a woman is classified as bisexual if she gives oral sex to another woman, a man would also have to be classified as bisexual if he gave oral sex to another man? Or if not, why not?