just to add me tuppence worth,
when we first joined this site there was the "we'll meet again thread" that everyone would just talk cack in it was great, but unfortunately ppl complained cos it was always off topic and it got shut down.
but at least all the crap was kept in one place so maybe if we just had one thread for random bullshit it would keep everyone happy.
ppl still got freedom of speach and mods would have an easier time as it would all be controlled in one thread causing less work for our mods?
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[I find threads on penis size tedious so don't bother to contribute unless i reply saying I find it so.
That's what I was trying to get at earlier: There are more than enough people who can't bite their tongues to make such threads descend rapidly into flame wars. It would be great if everyone just dismissed what they don't like without comment, but how many of us can do that consistently? Especially on days when there's little else to reply to?
Warming the Bed
A similar situation arose a year or so ago on a sex-oriented US forum we belong to.... the whole original point of the site was being lost under a hopeless welter of look-at-me stuff. It was getting to be completely inaccessible - even outright unfriendly - to the "ordinary" members. The mods on that site imposed a limit of one "off topic" thread per day, simply deleting anything they considered to be serving one small self-selecting group, rather than the community as a whole. And they changed any headers that they thought uninformative about thread content. It provoked a storm of outrage among the Nicky-Nomates bunch, but it seems to have worked pretty well.
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It has been said numerous times that if you don't want to read it then don't, but unfortunately the mods don't have that luxury.
kaz xxx
I've always thought the "If you don't like it you don't have to read it" argument was a bit... well, stupid to be honest: If I don't read it, how do I know whether I like it?
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good job I know you 
:lol: ok i'll try and rephrase that, once you click open a thread, if by glancing at it, you think its a total piece of boll*cks, or the title doesn't interest you. DONT READ IT :lol:
We are all adults in here (i think
:lol: ) with lots a different views, but this type of thread seems to be coming up more and more just lately. I for one hope it sorts itself out before mark and the mods decide to wash their hands of it.People asked the mods not to lock as many threads and let us use our own discretion onwhat we read and what we don't, but people don't seem to be happy with that. If they start locking them again, there will be uproar I think.
Maybe we should let Mark run his site as he wishes and respect that.
I apologise, I seem to be on a I love mods and mark day today :lol:
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Quote by seagull69
When I replied to the penis thread it wasn't meant as a flame.
Doesn't matter. Some people will happily take non-existent bait, and telling them you find their discussion tedious will often provoke an aggressive reaction regardless of your intention. I'm not saying you shouldn't express that view, what I'm suggesting is that if it does generate a lot of dummy throwing, that could be the cue to move it.
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I agree with Sarge's sentiments and motivation - there is a lot of crap around.
So, and I know I'm peddling this idea again but, why don't we allow all new members a cooling off period whereby they cannot post for a period after they have joined - say a week/two weeks. It will allow the good ones to do a bit of reading and the one hit wonders may never manage the one hit.
IMHO this is a very good idea. One of the things which really pisses me off is when we get newbies who seem to post on every thread, just for the sake of posting
They very often do not add anything more than a pointless comment or a line of these
or these :twisted: and so forth.Before we know it, they've been here two weeks and have several hundred posts behind them already, most of which are dross, some of which they even happily admit to being so :shock:
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While we're on the topic of what constitutes boring or not....
I personally find the GFZ kinda threads boring. To me it's grown-ups playing make believe. Why?
I agree with Jen, but at least we can avoid reading these threads completely and I do. I have no problems with them because I know I won't find it interesting so don't go in there. Simple
What we can't avoid is when there is dross posted on another wise interesting thread. Something get's hijacked and before we know it, that thread may have lost it's interest too :?
See the quotes below . . . .
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It has been said numerous times that if you don't want to read it then don't, but unfortunately the mods don't have that luxury.
kaz xxx
I've always thought the "If you don't like it you don't have to read it" argument was a bit... well, stupid to be honest: If I don't read it, how do I know whether I like it? :dunno:
We've all got our own opinions of what is crap or not and rightly so, but something has to be done before we have another mass evacuation of the site regulars as we have seen several times during the last year or so.
Regs and newbies alike are guilty of posting dross. We've all done it at times, but some people post it more than most.
Could not these folks be sent a *friendly* email by the mods to just suggest they tone done their manic postings etc? Or maybe there could be a limit to how many posts one could make each period of 24 hours?
Having talked about this with many of our friends on SH, one thing is patently clear. If things are not rectified soon, before long the forum will be a no go area for the older more established regs.
Newbies must be aware that regs have seen it all before, way too many times and it gets tedious in the extreme :?
The regs could also do with taking a long hard look at their posting styles. Many of them are guilty of manic or pointless postings, but as Venus points out, they get a different reception altogether
I have no idea what can be done about any of this really, but I hope someone can come up with something and fast
T-J
Quote by garden
A similar situation arose a year or so ago on a sex-oriented US forum we belong to.... the whole original point of the site was being lost under a hopeless welter of look-at-me stuff. It was getting to be completely inaccessible - even outright unfriendly - to the "ordinary" members. The mods on that site imposed a limit of one "off topic" thread per day, simply deleting anything they considered to be serving one small self-selecting group, rather than the community as a whole. And they changed any headers that they thought uninformative about thread content. It provoked a storm of outrage among the Nicky-Nomates bunch, but it seems to have worked pretty well.
I like the idea about giving the thread an accurate title to enable the viewer to decide whether the content is likely to be of interest.
Whenever there is a football thread, you always, always get people posting on it the fact that they dont like football. If the thread title contains the word "football" they have no excuse for doing so.
Whether there should in fact be any threads about football, the view from your window or whether you are from Wales is a different matter, a proper title helps the reader to choose what to ignore.
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ok i'll try and rephrase that, once you click open a thread, if by glancing at it, you think its a total piece of boll*cks, or the title doesn't interest you. DONT READ IT
I totally agree, but the fact is lots of people do decide it's total bollocks before they even get to the end of the first sentence and then respond, and unless you slap a total ban on any form of negative comment, which would kill the whole site stone dead, I don't think you can ever change that.
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And they changed any headers that they thought uninformative about thread content.
Good idea. There are few things more selfish and annoying on a forum site than a thread entitled "YOU MUST READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and you think there's been a major disaster so you open it up and it says "Bogchester United 2 - Wankam Wanderers 1"
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When I replied to the penis thread it wasn't meant as a flame.
Doesn't matter. Some people will happily take non-existent bait, and telling them you find their discussion tedious will often provoke an aggressive reaction regardless of your intention. I'm not saying you shouldn't express that view, what I'm suggesting is that if it does generate a lot of dummy throwing, that could be the cue to move it.
I am not against what you are saying but I don't mind if what I am saying upsets people isn't that the beauty of this site that people can say what they want. They can agree or disagree. I have not yet come across any really agressive or abusive replies on threads. One thread regarding the London Bombings was handle really well with contributors giving their opinions without it ever turning nasty and this being a very sensitive subject.
I think trolls should be blocked, yes....but for the rest it's a difficult subject. As a newbie I'm trying to gently enter the online community and the advice that clearly comes forward is to make lots of posts on the board. Getting the balance right between being too vocal and too silent is difficult when seeking to promote one's self in the hubbub, as is determining what's meaningful and what's drivel. I'm doubtless already guilty of putting up some pointless posts.
IMHO, any community of this size is going to generate a large amount of traffic and the most effective way of dealing with it is to further split the board and make sub-communities. I'm already amazed that the mods can keep up with it.
IMHO, any community of this size is going to generate a large amount of traffic and the most effective way of dealing with it is to further split the board and make sub-communities. I'm already amazed that the mods can keep up with it.
I also agree accurate thread titles would be helpful and simple 'i'm new threads' are a bit irritating even for a complete newbie like me.
However if you become too opinionated about what people can and cant say some of the newer folk will be put off contributing in case their comments are 'not up to scratch'. I think that this might be a sad loss for both new and old members
So please don't be too brutal about what you decide to do about it in taking action!
Claire xx
However if you become too opinionated about what people can and cant say some of the newer folk will be put off contributing in case their comments are 'not up to scratch'. I think that this might be a sad loss for both new and old members
So please don't be too brutal about what you decide to do about it in taking action!
Claire xx
Sorry Shead, not having a go but yours was the nearest example that i could find.
The thread "what ca i do?" gives no indication as to what it is about and the subject matter is something I find unpleasant.
It may not be to others, it is a swinging/sex related subject and a perfectly valid question, its just that I wouldnt have opened the thread if I had known what it was about.
As I say, it is not having a go and certainly not questioning whether the topic should be raised.
The thread "what ca i do?" gives no indication as to what it is about and the subject matter is something I find unpleasant.
It may not be to others, it is a swinging/sex related subject and a perfectly valid question, its just that I wouldnt have opened the thread if I had known what it was about.
As I say, it is not having a go and certainly not questioning whether the topic should be raised.
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I also agree accurate thread titles would be helpful and simple 'i'm new threads' are a bit irritating even for a complete newbie like me.
When I first joined this site I actually got a PM from a long time member saying that I had not introduced myself so I had to put in a hello I am new post
i agree with blondie and with sarge and ice on a few things. but a shit bin is not a good thing, im sure everyone has posted something shit at least once, for me about 994 times.
what will happen is people leaving the site in droves me aswell. yes at the moment ive found things utterly boring at times, how big is your knob, who cares? i couldnt give a dam how big someones knob is. do women find bi guys sexy, does it matter? do we like science from bb? who gives a fook, he,ll be back off twocking cars and in prison when the shows finnished hopefully.
ive posted so much nonsense at times but ive ive also posted a few sensible things and injected a few things from my life that you wouldnt have never known about, ie things i have to do to be myself and the crap i have to deal with sometimes.
i dont look or never will look for hugs and sympathy, but over the past few weeks ive been really crap and a few on here have saved me from going totally mad and made me think about myself for once, hence the whole new me and name change etc. without the crap posts and sometimes adding to them i doubt i would have made those friends.
ive only been here since feb and i was new and im sure i asked infact i did ask some stupid questions because i was new, and so because of that i let the other newbies make the same mistakes, its a learning curve.
i like to look at the jokes or the links on here sometimes, they make me laugh.
things come in waves your bound to have crap sometimes, just like good days and bad days. im sure the posts will get better again soon.
i enjoy the cafe as its the only place ive really ever had such a giggle on the net, sometimes nearly falling off my chair in hysterics. yes its a swing site and its about sex mainly but theres the lets meet up, the ads, the chatroom, if all i did was talk about sex constantly to be honest id be bored shitless and i wouldnt be here.
threads are already locked for many reasons but because someone with the keys dosnt like a thread because it dosnt entertain them and to decide whether they will lock or goes to a shit bin is not good
what will happen is people leaving the site in droves me aswell. yes at the moment ive found things utterly boring at times, how big is your knob, who cares? i couldnt give a dam how big someones knob is. do women find bi guys sexy, does it matter? do we like science from bb? who gives a fook, he,ll be back off twocking cars and in prison when the shows finnished hopefully.
ive posted so much nonsense at times but ive ive also posted a few sensible things and injected a few things from my life that you wouldnt have never known about, ie things i have to do to be myself and the crap i have to deal with sometimes.
i dont look or never will look for hugs and sympathy, but over the past few weeks ive been really crap and a few on here have saved me from going totally mad and made me think about myself for once, hence the whole new me and name change etc. without the crap posts and sometimes adding to them i doubt i would have made those friends.
ive only been here since feb and i was new and im sure i asked infact i did ask some stupid questions because i was new, and so because of that i let the other newbies make the same mistakes, its a learning curve.
i like to look at the jokes or the links on here sometimes, they make me laugh.
things come in waves your bound to have crap sometimes, just like good days and bad days. im sure the posts will get better again soon.
i enjoy the cafe as its the only place ive really ever had such a giggle on the net, sometimes nearly falling off my chair in hysterics. yes its a swing site and its about sex mainly but theres the lets meet up, the ads, the chatroom, if all i did was talk about sex constantly to be honest id be bored shitless and i wouldnt be here.
threads are already locked for many reasons but because someone with the keys dosnt like a thread because it dosnt entertain them and to decide whether they will lock or goes to a shit bin is not good
Seagul69:
Oh well I'm not criticising you directly, but imagine if EVERY single new member did that!? It would achieve absolutely nothing and be a complete nightmare! I mean there is only limited things that can be replied to that.. hello and such and welcome but people will no doubt be introduced to you as you participate.. correct me if i'm wrong!
Claire xx
When I first joined this site I actually got a PM from a long time member saying that I had not introduced myself so I had to put in a hello I am new post
Oh well I'm not criticising you directly, but imagine if EVERY single new member did that!? It would achieve absolutely nothing and be a complete nightmare! I mean there is only limited things that can be replied to that.. hello and such and welcome
but people will no doubt be introduced to you as you participate.. correct me if i'm wrong!Claire xx
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I also agree accurate thread titles would be helpful and simple 'i'm new threads' are a bit irritating even for a complete newbie like me.
When I first joined this site I actually got a PM from a long time member saying that I had not introduced myself so I had to put in a hello I am new post
I don't see anything wrong with Newbie Intro threads. It's a lot easier than trying to elbow your way into a conversation when you're not known. And the thread title is nearly always "Hi, I'm new here" or something along those lines, so if you're not interested it's cost you about half a second out of your life to read the title and move on. If all threads were as informatively titled, we'd have a lot less aggro.
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Seagul69:When I first joined this site I actually got a PM from a long time member saying that I had not introduced myself so I had to put in a hello I am new post
Oh well I'm not criticising you directly, but imagine if EVERY single new member did that!? It would achieve absolutely nothing and be a complete nightmare! I mean there is only limited things that can be replied to that.. hello and such and welcome
but people will no doubt be introduced to you as you participate.. correct me if i'm wrong!Claire xx
I am agree with you Claire. If you read my post I was actually asked to introduce myself as I just got on this site and jumped right in. I also find the I am new post boring and If everyone did it it would be a nightmare.
With all the ramblings (in a good way :P ) above, and seeing as one of the multiple small problems seems to be newbies starting out, saying hi etc.........should we not myabe have a sticky hola section ????..........then when they come in, they all say hello there, sticky intro's or something we could call it?
just an idea..........................shoot me down in burning flames if you wish, but have got me chute on :twisted: :P
just an idea..........................shoot me down in burning flames if you wish, but have got me chute on :twisted: :P
Sensible suggestion Colts.
Okay 'elbowing' our way in... that is not a very nice comment to make, also i would imagine for the most part it is incorrect! It is only being sociable and showing general interest in the conversation at hand.
If you want to make conversations exclusive in that way there is little point in it being a public forum!
But I have read a fair few 'i'm new' threads and i cannot really see what they achieve apart from extending the hand of friendship.. which is how i see taking part in a conversation that interests me!
Claire xx
Okay 'elbowing' our way in... that is not a very nice comment to make, also i would imagine for the most part it is incorrect! It is only being sociable and showing general interest in the conversation at hand.
If you want to make conversations exclusive in that way there is little point in it being a public forum!
But I have read a fair few 'i'm new' threads and i cannot really see what they achieve apart from extending the hand of friendship.. which is how i see taking part in a conversation that interests me!
Claire xx
Remember "the search button is your best friend!"
How about? "the back button is your best friend"
I mean that in the context of, you're typing a reply,you read it back to yourself and decide that it is shite or adds nothing or isnt relevant or funny and you press the back button and dont post.
We all post shite etc but a mind set of "the back button is your best friend" might cut down on some of it.
How about? "the back button is your best friend"
I mean that in the context of, you're typing a reply,you read it back to yourself and decide that it is shite or adds nothing or isnt relevant or funny and you press the back button and dont post.
We all post shite etc but a mind set of "the back button is your best friend" might cut down on some of it.
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How about? "the back button is your best friend"
I mean that in the context of, you're typing a reply,you read it back to yourself and decide that it is shite or adds nothing or isnt relevant or funny and you press the back button and dont post.
God bless the back button. Without it, I'd have more posts than blue and Jags put together.
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Sensible suggestion Colts.
Okay 'elbowing' our way in... that is not a very nice comment to make, also i would imagine for the most part it is incorrect! It is only being sociable and showing general interest in the conversation at hand.
If you want to make conversations exclusive in that way there is little point in it being a public forum!
Claire xx
I again agree with you. I sometimes wonder whether this delaration of war is about threads or the newbies coming on board. Ok I am prepared to get flamed. Fire away ice pie
well id didn't mean to concentrate just on the newbies (of which I'm one ), but like I said, I just meant it as a small solution, to one of the many small probs .
And even after all the criticism of this place, I still find it fun, people are friendly, wittyness still creeps its way out and all still good fun for a heated discussion
If I did cause offence by concentrating on them there newbies, apologies :P
), but like I said, I just meant it as a small solution, to one of the many small probs .And even after all the criticism of this place, I still find it fun, people are friendly, wittyness still creeps its way out and all still good fun for a heated discussion
If I did cause offence by concentrating on them there newbies, apologies :P
Whilst some of this argument has been fevourously raging, I have been reading some of the old posts. Well mannered, polite, supportive and encouraging interchanges. Ner an unpleasant word seemed to be spoken back in those halcyon days.
Mods look up astounded, discuss whether I deserve brownie points, nice sticker or jamboree bag.
My perception is that the site is..............growing up. Tantrums, stamping of feet, holding of breath, refusing to eat broccoli etc.
So we have to get through this.
Mods look up astounded, discuss whether I deserve brownie points, nice sticker or jamboree bag.
My perception is that the site is..............growing up. Tantrums, stamping of feet, holding of breath, refusing to eat broccoli etc.
So we have to get through this.
