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If a woman is having frequent sex with swinging guys, then why not charge for it?
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surely then its crossing into prostitution territory? i thought the premise of swinging was consenting adults enjoying fun together - if sex is charged for, theres plenty of ads in local papers for that, and it takes the friendship aspect away completely if theguys then become just another customer?
Because when you are committed to providing a service that is being paid for, the power balance then goes wrong. When someone pays for a product, they see the product as theirs and feels that they can do to it as they so choose. If then the product is your body, I feel you will be threading a fine line.
I can't agree with placing a monetary value to your body. it turns you into commodity and devalues everything else about you that you can't stick a price tag on.
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I can't agree with placing a monetary value to your body. it turns you into commodity and devalues everything else about you that you can't stick a price tag on.
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Predictable!
But why should it make any difference at all if the woman leaves with some cash in her purse, if she has enjoyed it and the guy has? You can still be friends with a man who has chosen to pay you!
And.........some swingers may be turned on by the role playing idea!
Money ain't dirty any way!
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But why should it make any difference at all if the woman leaves with some cash in her purse, if she has enjoyed it and the guy has? You can still be friends with a man who has chosen to pay you!
And.........some swingers may be turned on by the role playing idea!
Money ain't dirty any way!
DISCUSS FURTHER!
Sex God
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If a woman is having frequent sex with swinging guys, then why not charge for it?
Please discuss!
Because it's just another additional complication when completing your tax return.
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So, why is it proposed that it is the man who pays the woman? Why not vice versa?
Beat me to it
was just going to add that :) It implies imbalence in the relationship, woman only there for the money and men only there as they paid... agh too tired to express in words, lets just say that is NOT a good way to be in a relationship, sexual or otherwise... There's a world of difference between fantasy and real life.
There's a club in Holland, I think it's fun4two, not quite sure, where women can stand in a window and pretend to be a prostitute and guys can pay to be with her.
Swinging is about fantasy in a safe, consensual environment.
By the way, I'm not having a go, if anyone is into prostitution, that's their choice, but it's a million miles from swinging!
There's a club in Holland, I think it's fun4two, not quite sure, where women can stand in a window and pretend to be a prostitute and guys can pay to be with her.
Swinging is about fantasy in a safe, consensual environment.
By the way, I'm not having a go, if anyone is into prostitution, that's their choice, but it's a million miles from swinging!
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If a woman is having frequent sex with swinging guys, then why not charge for it?
Please discuss!
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NAH.
not sure that you have quite grasped the nettle here.
Oh yeah, as an Entrepreneur I too can see the possibilities, and the potential,
but there is a major flaw in your thinking.
As far as I can work out, and forgive me if I am wrong, still a relative newbee, The whole point of the lifestyle is just that, it’s a lifestyle, not a profession, not a calling, there are no maidens of mercy here who will give you relief for a couple of quid, no “one dollar love you long time†stuff.
This is about real people who enjoy sharing each other with real people, with the emphasis on “ENJOY†and “SHAREâ€.
My god, if anyone ever offered me money for being with Katie I would probably end up in prison.
Her name is Katie, not Lovelips
My name aint Huggy and I aint no pimp.
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IMHO
And as far as I can tell, neither is anyone else on here
So what Paper was it you work for? ………………. Tell them to work harder next time
Sex God
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Sex God
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If a woman is having frequent sex with swinging guys, then why not charge for it?
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:smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: Because swinging is for fun.
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Quote by pan_bi
There's a world of difference between fantasy and real life.
There's a club in Holland, I think it's fun4two, not quite sure, where women can stand in a window and pretend to be a prostitute and guys can pay to be with her.
Swinging is about fantasy in a safe, consensual environment.
By the way, I'm not having a go, if anyone is into prostitution, that's their choice, but it's a million miles from swinging!
Very well put Pan. There is a great difference between the two, and when money becomes involved, it becomes just a job. So my question would be, Would the lady involved be happy to take money and turn a passion into a career?
John
Orgasminator
Hummmmm a huge area of grey....
What about a couple that swing and also have a paid for view web site or post the photos to a paid site and earn a commision?
What about a couple that organise "greedy girls" where basically the club gets loads of paying guys and the couple/lass get a fair wack of that in commision?
What about a couple or single model who charges for a photo shoot, but knows some amatures "photograhpers" are only really paying for the perve factor not to get great photos?
What about a couple that expect the guy to book and pay for a hotel room.... or even as simple as bring their own condoms as the couple dont want to pay for them...
Mind you, thats probably why I will die a very poor, lol, as a proportion of what I do comes from the swinging or bdsm scene and I'm not nearly clinical enough to say "you want me, you pay" lol, my lad will peobably make his fortune when i'm gone tho, lol.
If you want to see how soft i am, you have to check out the write up in the "libby" gallery... i do like it when people pay even tho I will do something for free, lololol.
What about a couple that swing and also have a paid for view web site or post the photos to a paid site and earn a commision?
What about a couple that organise "greedy girls" where basically the club gets loads of paying guys and the couple/lass get a fair wack of that in commision?
What about a couple or single model who charges for a photo shoot, but knows some amatures "photograhpers" are only really paying for the perve factor not to get great photos?
What about a couple that expect the guy to book and pay for a hotel room.... or even as simple as bring their own condoms as the couple dont want to pay for them...
Mind you, thats probably why I will die a very poor, lol, as a proportion of what I do comes from the swinging or bdsm scene and I'm not nearly clinical enough to say "you want me, you pay" lol, my lad will peobably make his fortune when i'm gone tho, lol.
If you want to see how soft i am, you have to check out the write up in the "libby" gallery... i do like it when people pay even tho I will do something for free, lololol.
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If a woman is having frequent sex with swinging guys, then why not charge for it?
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I personally wouldn't happy with the concept.....You mentioned the below in a previous post
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Strangely enough, having thought about it for several days, it seems quite horny that a guy paid to screw me!
I'll pretend it was just a bit of role playing! That'll be my justification!
I think for me it could only ever be a fantasy role play with someone by prior arrangement.
Not for any money to seriously change hands.
Kitty xx
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Hummmmm a huge area of grey....
What about a couple that swing and also have a paid for view web site or post the photos to a paid site and earn a commision?
There they are getting money for people to look at pics, modeling, not sex. Models are not prostitutes.
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What about a couple that organise "greedy girls" where basically the club gets loads of paying guys and the couple/lass get a fair wack of that in commision?
That would be prostitution to me, and illegal in the UK...
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What about a couple or single model who charges for a photo shoot, but knows some amatures "photograhpers" are only really paying for the perve factor not to get great photos?
Same again, they not giving out blowjobs. Models have been paid to take their cloathes off (or not) for ages. This is a world away from sharing your body and mind in a sexual way. Even a couple of people who sleep with each other in front of the camera could charge in my book and still be modeling, but that would not be swinging and they could not arrange anything about it here on SH.
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What about a couple that expect the guy to book and pay for a hotel room.... or even as simple as bring their own condoms as the couple dont want to pay for them...
As for the hotel room, there have been a number of people banned for this sort of thing. I think the policy is advertiser either pays for the room (after all they the one looking) or offers to go dutch. As for condoms, ok fair enough as we are talking a couple of quid here . The measure is was there any material gain by the other party, if you put them up for a night in a high class hotel in London for 1 hour of their time, then there is, you bringing your own condom there isn't. Does that make any sense
Still recovering from last night Just my opinion of course, but I think models can charge for photos of themselves in any state of undress. However the second you cross thie line into sexual acts with people who are paying you for sex with them you are into prostitution. Not that I feel that is wrong in itself, I am far more tolerant than that. However it is not swinging in how I understand it.
It is quiet possible for money to change hands and friendship still to be a large part of the relationship.
However the fact that money has changed hands menas that one party has the upper hand, the balance of power is changed and the money providers needs become more importnat that the other parties.
Swinging is about both or all parties deriving the same amount of satisfaction.
However the fact that money has changed hands menas that one party has the upper hand, the balance of power is changed and the money providers needs become more importnat that the other parties.
Swinging is about both or all parties deriving the same amount of satisfaction.
Sex God
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If a woman is having frequent sex with swinging guys, then why not charge for it?
Please discuss!
Because if she did, she would then be a prostitute.
KcKat has already quoted one of your posts when you thought it was 'horny' for someone to have paid to screw you. Does this post now mean that you are considering it, or justifying why you accepted that payment?
Casanova
The only way I could see this working was if you were to either:
1) Arrange with the "punter", that you give him the money that he would use to pay you, which sounds a bit daft I know but at least then you would not be breaking any laws. Of course you run the risk of him just buggering off with your money.
or
2) You arrange to meet in a hotel room and the money he leaves you pays for half the cost of the room. Again then I see no laws getting broken, and as long as the male party knows that this would be purely a role-playing game.
As said by many others, paying for sex in the manner you describe, sounds more like prostitution than swinging
Out of curiosity, how much do you think you are worth?
1) Arrange with the "punter", that you give him the money that he would use to pay you, which sounds a bit daft I know but at least then you would not be breaking any laws. Of course you run the risk of him just buggering off with your money.
or
2) You arrange to meet in a hotel room and the money he leaves you pays for half the cost of the room. Again then I see no laws getting broken, and as long as the male party knows that this would be purely a role-playing game.
As said by many others, paying for sex in the manner you describe, sounds more like prostitution than swinging
Out of curiosity, how much do you think you are worth?
There's a dogging couple near me (members of this site in fact) that have started charging. It was quite annoying for me because i'd just met them and we were getting on well but I was sat in their car when they told me that they were considering starting to charge people. They wanted to earn money, she enjoys the sex, why not get paid for it. Infallable logic. Next time I met them they were touting for business at one of the local sites. Good luck to them.. but I'm not paying. Not that i'm tight or can't afford it, it just takes the fun out of it for me. I hope it works out for them.
Another friend of mine has started running a guaranteed dogging service. We're there's sex there's an opportunity to make money.
I like dogging because I like the idea of a couple who really get a kick out of a guy watching them or joining in. The idea that they're enjoying it gets destroyed when people start asking for money for it.
Another friend of mine has started running a guaranteed dogging service. We're there's sex there's an opportunity to make money.
I like dogging because I like the idea of a couple who really get a kick out of a guy watching them or joining in. The idea that they're enjoying it gets destroyed when people start asking for money for it.
Point 1: A woman shagging a bloke is not necessarily 'Swinging' it is shagging.
Point 2: Just because a guy will shag you for free - it doesn't mean he is willing to pay.
Point 3: Asking a guy to pay is potentially insulting to the guy - if you think about it.
Point 4: Asking to be paid makes it work - I have enough bloody work to do already without doing more work in my free-time.
Point 5: When I engade in a sexual act with one, two, three, four, five, six or more people... it is as an equal - not as an employee!
Point 5.5: There are enough ignorant twats that pass through here already - thinking women involved in the swinging scene are a cheap alternative to seeking prostitutes. A few of the tourists tend to think women are here for the guys pleasure rather than their own (having the mentality that ....into swinging = will shag anything). Hearing some do actually charge will make this worse.
Point 5.5.1: Why is it only the woman that could ask for cash? What would you do if some guy said "Did you enjoy that? Good. That will be £50 please"
Point 2: Just because a guy will shag you for free - it doesn't mean he is willing to pay.
Point 3: Asking a guy to pay is potentially insulting to the guy - if you think about it.
Point 4: Asking to be paid makes it work - I have enough bloody work to do already without doing more work in my free-time.
Point 5: When I engade in a sexual act with one, two, three, four, five, six or more people... it is as an equal - not as an employee!
Point 5.5: There are enough ignorant twats that pass through here already - thinking women involved in the swinging scene are a cheap alternative to seeking prostitutes. A few of the tourists tend to think women are here for the guys pleasure rather than their own (having the mentality that ....into swinging = will shag anything). Hearing some do actually charge will make this worse.
Point 5.5.1: Why is it only the woman that could ask for cash? What would you do if some guy said "Did you enjoy that? Good. That will be £50 please"
