I am on Day Off ........... I had big plans to do the housework, go shopping, cook the old bugger something nice for his tea ..... etc etc.......... but
I have been watching Johnathon Edwards on Tele since I got up.
I cant move away from it........
For those that havent seen in, he is a medium. He has just done loads of readings for different people including names and dates....... I am amazed!!!
Do you believe? Do you think there is a life after death and that they can communicate with us?
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Do you believe?
I've always believed there are spirits around us ( I saw a couple of ghosts when I was younger ) but didn't think these mediums were anything more than charlatans until I took my Mum to see Tony Stockwell. He actually spoke to my Mum about my Dad and he was so spot on, it was spooky :shock: He even said about Dad calling all that a load of hocus pocus ( which were almost his exact words! )
It was televised on Living TV last year.
He's excellent though I do see Derek Acora as entertainment rather than accurate.
It was televised on Living TV last year.
He's excellent though I do see Derek Acora as entertainment rather than accurate.
Sex God
Ghosts are something i've always believed in. I've seen things before, often very clearly but they have always been gone within the blink of an eye. I personally believe that the idea of there being nothing after death is insane, something that is there as strongly cannot just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere, but where?
Quote by Drewxcore
Ghosts are something i've always believed in. I've seen things before, often very clearly but they have always been gone within the blink of an eye. I personally believe that the idea of there being nothing after death is insane, something that is there as strongly cannot just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere, but where?
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
Sex God
It is physically impossible for something to be there and then just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere.
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
Quote by keeno
Ghosts are something i've always believed in. I've seen things before, often very clearly but they have always been gone within the blink of an eye. I personally believe that the idea of there being nothing after death is insane, something that is there as strongly cannot just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere, but where?
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
Quote by keeno
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
:thumbup:
spot on
It is physically impossible for something to be there and then just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere.
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
Are you suggesting we are somewhere before we are born as well?
Quote by keeno
Ghosts are something i've always believed in. I've seen things before, often very clearly but they have always been gone within the blink of an eye. I personally believe that the idea of there being nothing after death is insane, something that is there as strongly cannot just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere, but where?
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
Are you suggesting we are somewhere before we are born as well?
Sex God
Quote by Drewxcore
It is physically impossible for something to be there and then just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere.
Without appearing too heartless and callus....
The body after death goes in the ground(or cremation) and in time decomposes.....
I dont see why this is so hard to grasp Drew
Sex God
Quote by Laff_n_Chilli
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
:thumbup:
spot on
But how can you know? I'm not disputing the fact that you believe it, but how can any of us possibly know whether there's an afterlife or not?
I like my beliefs as they are (in reincarnation, and the soul learning a specific lesson in each life) but I don't know them to be true, and I couldn't argue that I'm absolutely right because I have no proof. I do think that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs though, without having other people's beliefs shoved down their throats as "the only right way"
Sex God
We all know how babies are created, so we are all there to some degree even before we are born. What i'm saying that the thing inside of us that makes us who we are has to go somewhere when we die, even the body goes somewhere, it decays and is broken down but it is STILL there.
Quote by Laff_n_Chilli
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
:thumbup:
spot on
me too :thumbup:
Sex God
Quote by Mallock2006
It is physically impossible for something to be there and then just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere.
Without appearing too heartless and callus....
The body after death goes in the ground(or cremation) and in time decomposes.....
I dont see why this is so hard to grasp Drew
Without wanting to speak on Drew's behalf, I want to answer this from my own point of view. I don't think there's anyone who doesn't grasp that the body is either cremated or buried, but what about the soul? I think (as stated above) that the soul goes on and comes back again in a different "shell" (body) in order for the soul to learn a new lesson. So yes, that also means that the soul is in existence before we're born, as well as after.
Quote by Angel Chat
It's that belief that keeps the whole illusion of life after death going. Most people are so self centred that they cannot imagine the world existing without them.
Personally I think its a pile of poo. The world is there before you are born, you live, you die and there's nothing else.
The concept of heaven and hell is an invention of organised religon to keep the peasants in line. So that they will be rewarded in the next life. This means they will put up all kinds of shit in this life. Keeping those in power in power and keeping everyone else under their thumbs in hope of some kind of reward after death.
Sorry no ghosts
Sorry no heaven
Sorry no hell
Just here and now.
Just try and imagine it, it's easy if you try.
:thumbup:
spot on
But how can you know? I'm not disputing the fact that you believe it, but how can any of us possibly know whether there's an afterlife or not?
I like my beliefs as they are (in reincarnation, and the soul learning a specific lesson in each life) but I don't know them to be true, and I couldn't argue that I'm absolutely right because I have no proof. I do think that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs though, without having other people's beliefs shoved down their throats as "the only right way"
You're quite right I don't know, these are just my beliefs.
Sex God
Quote by Angel Chat
It is physically impossible for something to be there and then just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere.
Without appearing too heartless and callus....
The body after death goes in the ground(or cremation) and in time decomposes.....
I dont see why this is so hard to grasp Drew
Without wanting to speak on Drew's behalf, I want to answer this from my own point of view. I don't think there's anyone who doesn't grasp that the body is either cremated or buried, but what about the soul? I think (as stated above) that the soul goes on and comes back again in a different "shell" (body) in order for the soul to learn a new lesson. So yes, that also means that the soul is in existence before we're born, as well as after.
Assuming there is one :dunno:
Lets be fair......You cant disect a human body and take out the soul and put it on a plate so its something that has to be believed in once again..
Sex God
Bodies break down because they are eaten by bacteria and small organisms, these small organisms poo (ha)so what they have eaten (us) goes somewhere then. We never dissapear completely.
)so what they have eaten (us) goes somewhere then. We never dissapear completely. Quote by Angel Chat
It is physically impossible for something to be there and then just dissapear, it HAS to go somewhere.
Without appearing too heartless and callus....
The body after death goes in the ground(or cremation) and in time decomposes.....
I dont see why this is so hard to grasp Drew
Without wanting to speak on Drew's behalf, I want to answer this from my own point of view. I don't think there's anyone who doesn't grasp that the body is either cremated or buried, but what about the soul? I think (as stated above) that the soul goes on and comes back again in a different "shell" (body) in order for the soul to learn a new lesson. So yes, that also means that the soul is in existence before we're born, as well as after.
so then, as the world's population grows day by day.. where are all these "extra" souls coming from :dunno:
Is someone forming an orderly queue??
Can you arrange your next placing, like cash for peerages?
You live, you die.. and that's the end of it.
Sex God
We have personalities and something within ourselves that makes us our own person, when we die where does that go? it has to go somewhere doesnt it x
Quote by Drewxcore
We have personalities and something within ourselves that makes us our own person, when we die where does that go? it has to go somewhere doesnt it x
In life, you pass on your personality and teaching to others....
In death, you are remembered for what you were.
That's the only explanation I can offer Drew
Sex God
but its NOT a explanation x
In life, you pass on your personality and teaching to others....
In death, you are remembered for what you were.
That's the only explanation I can offer Drew
Quote by GnV
We have personalities and something within ourselves that makes us our own person, when we die where does that go? it has to go somewhere doesnt it x
In life, you pass on your personality and teaching to others....
In death, you are remembered for what you were.
That's the only explanation I can offer Drew
Sex God
Quote by Drewxcore
but its NOT a explanation x
Well its as good as your gonna get so time to give it up now eh
Quote by Drewxcore
Bodies break down because they are eaten by bacteria and small organisms, these small organisms poo (ha
So Drew,
What are we discussing the body or the soul. You seem to have argued both continue after death. I agree the body just changes state after all it is only made of the things we eat and breath.
I don't believe I have an everlasting soul.
I' don't believe I will be rewarded in an afterlife for all the good things I have done.
I don't believe I will be punished in an afterlife for all the bad things I have.
I don't believe I am on some kind of journey, learning leasons in each life.
I am not religious man and this all smacks of a devine plan.
I doubt there is anything I can say that will make you change your mind or that there is anything you can say that will change mine. :D
Sex God
Quote by Mallock2006
but its NOT a explanation x
Well its as good as your gonna get so time to give it up now eh
Dont roll you eyes, its called a debate. But lets just agree to dissagree
Sex God
Quote by Drewxcore
but its NOT a explanation x
Well its as good as your gonna get so time to give it up now eh
Dont roll you eyes, its called a debate. But lets just agree to dissagree
If you want me to quit :roll: then quit using the caps as if to indicate a tant being thrown
:roll:
Sex God
The caps are used to emphasize (sp?) a particular point.
Well its as good as your gonna get so time to give it up now eh :roll:
Dont roll you eyes, its called a debate. But lets just agree to dissagree
If you want me to quit :roll: then quit using the caps as if to indicate a tant being thrown
:roll:
Quote by Mallock2006
but its NOT a explanation x
Well its as good as your gonna get so time to give it up now eh :roll:
Dont roll you eyes, its called a debate. But lets just agree to dissagree
If you want me to quit :roll: then quit using the caps as if to indicate a tant being thrown
:roll:
Quote by keeno
Bodies break down because they are eaten by bacteria and small organisms, these small organisms poo (ha
So Drew,
What are we discussing the body or the soul. You seem to have argued both continue after death. I agree the body just changes state after all it is only made of the things we eat and breath.
I don't believe I have an everlasting soul.
I' don't believe I will be rewarded in an afterlife for all the good things I have done.
I don't believe I will be punished in an afterlife for all the bad things I have.
I don't believe I am on some kind of journey, learning leasons in each life.
I am not religious man and this all smacks of a devine plan.
I doubt there is anything I can say that will make you change your mind or that there is anything you can say that will change mine. :D
I agree whole heartedly, I don't think there is a reward for afterlife, I don't think there is even an afterlife to be honest.
I think all the heeby jeeby ghosty thing is a matter of personal experiences and opinions. Although if I was to be regressed I reckon I would have been a serving wench in the 1700's!. :shock:
Sex God
Quote by keeno
I doubt there is anything I can say that will make you change your mind or that there is anything you can say that will change mine.
:thumbup: I agree :D
As I said in my original post, I like my beliefs as they are. I'm fully aware that I could be wrong, but if I am wrong, I won't know anyway because I'll be dead and that'll be that
If I'm right, I probably won't remember in my next life anyway (I don't consciously remember anything from my previous life/lives now) It all boils down to the fact that as humans, a lot of us need to feel that we're doing something worthwhile. My own view is that some of us need to also feel that death isn't then end, and that belief brings us comfort and stops me personally from being afraid of death. I'm not saying I don't fear dying, because if it's slow and painful then obviously that does scare me.... but death itself isn't scary
That all made sense in my head
:lol: :shock:
I dont know what I believe ........... sometimes I think its all rubbish ......... then something will happen and I change my mind.....
If souls dont exist why arent we all the same? We are all made of the same bits ....... so something must make us different?
As for mediums .....I dont know ........... the guy on the tele this morning was giving the audience names and dates and asking them NOT to make it fit but only respond if it meant something ..... it was truely mind blowing to see.
Its so interesting to see other peoples points of view.
Thanks
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I dont know what I believe ........... sometimes I think its all rubbish ......... then something will happen and I change my mind.....
If souls dont exist why arent we all the same? We are all made of the same bits ....... so something must make us different?
As for mediums .....I dont know ........... the guy on the tele this morning was giving the audience names and dates and asking them NOT to make it fit but only respond if it meant something ..... it was truely mind blowing to see.
Its so interesting to see other peoples points of view.
Thanks
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
